From buildfarm at lists.opencsw.org Wed Jan 1 23:23:57 2014 From: buildfarm at lists.opencsw.org (Dagobert Michelsen via buildfarm) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 23:23:57 +0100 Subject: Low traffic on maintainers@ In-Reply-To: <20131229134913.GA13628@quince> References:

<20131229134913.GA13628@quince> Message-ID: Hi folks, (f?up on maintainers@ after some discussion with Maciej) Am 29.12.2013 um 14:49 schrieb Maciej Blizi?ski : > On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 04:43:49PM +0100, Dagobert Michelsen wrote: >> Am 28.12.2013 um 13:49 schrieb Maciej (Matchek) Blizi?ski : >>> Did you notice how quiet the maintainers mailing list has become? 25 messages compared to ~130 in previous years, I'm wondering if something's wrong? >> >> I'm afraid nothing is wrong and people are just moving away :-( Rupert announced >> to not use Solaris any more, Phipsy also, and very few new maintainers. > > Yes, maybe it's a fundamental problem where the use of Solaris goes > down, and the general interest in packages does too. > > We had an influx of new people at some point, but it did not result in > too much actually built packages. We've failed to follow up on them for > more than a year and I fear that the opportunity is gone. For example, > I contacted axisys, he responded and said wants to create a package with > something, and he disappeared again. > > I think we've lowered the entry barrier, but maybe our packaging system is > still arcane and based on tribal knowledge? > > Maciej > > P.S. Feel free to move this conversation to maintainers at . For me I can say I am spending more and more time doing actually upstream work like porting, communicating build issues and inspecting our buildbot results. This generally raises the bar on actual packaging work for me, unfortunately I can?t see a way around this. Best regards ? Dago -- "You don't become great by trying to be great, you become great by wanting to do something, and then doing it so hard that you become great in the process." - xkcd #896 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2351 bytes Desc: not available URL: From buildfarm at lists.opencsw.org Thu Jan 2 10:24:59 2014 From: buildfarm at lists.opencsw.org (Peter FELECAN via buildfarm) Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2014 10:24:59 +0100 Subject: Low traffic on maintainers@ In-Reply-To: (Dagobert Michelsen via buildfarm's message of "Wed, 1 Jan 2014 23:23:57 +0100") References:

<20131229134913.GA13628@quince> Message-ID: Dagobert Michelsen via buildfarm writes: > Hi folks, > > (f?up on maintainers@ after some discussion with Maciej) > > Am 29.12.2013 um 14:49 schrieb Maciej Blizi?ski : > >> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 04:43:49PM +0100, Dagobert Michelsen wrote: >>> Am 28.12.2013 um 13:49 schrieb Maciej (Matchek) Blizi?ski : >>>> Did you notice how quiet the maintainers mailing list has become? 25 messages compared to ~130 in previous years, I'm wondering if something's wrong? >>> >>> I'm afraid nothing is wrong and people are just moving away :-( Rupert announced >>> to not use Solaris any more, Phipsy also, and very few new maintainers. >> >> Yes, maybe it's a fundamental problem where the use of Solaris goes >> down, and the general interest in packages does too. >> >> We had an influx of new people at some point, but it did not result in >> too much actually built packages. We've failed to follow up on them for >> more than a year and I fear that the opportunity is gone. For example, >> I contacted axisys, he responded and said wants to create a package with >> something, and he disappeared again. >> >> I think we've lowered the entry barrier, but maybe our packaging system is >> still arcane and based on tribal knowledge? >> >> Maciej >> >> P.S. Feel free to move this conversation to maintainers at . > > For me I can say I am spending more and more time doing actually upstream work > like porting, communicating build issues and inspecting our buildbot results. > This generally raises the bar on actual packaging work for me, unfortunately > I can?t see a way around this. Probably the most significant mailing list is the devel one. There is activity but I agree that it's quite low and it reflects some intrinsic characteristics of our community, one of them being its small size. -- Peter From buildfarm at lists.opencsw.org Thu Jan 2 13:07:11 2014 From: buildfarm at lists.opencsw.org (Joerg Schilling via buildfarm) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:07:11 +0100 Subject: Low traffic on maintainers@ In-Reply-To: References:

<20131229134913.GA13628@quince> Message-ID: <52c5566f.sYaLJpr05kTFn3IN%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Dagobert Michelsen via buildfarm wrote: > For me I can say I am spending more and more time doing actually upstream work > like porting, communicating build issues and inspecting our buildbot results. > This generally raises the bar on actual packaging work for me, unfortunately Is this a result of sagging upstream quality in general or a result of ignoring POSIX compliant OS like Solaris? Happy new year! J?rg -- EMail:joerg at schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js at cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From buildfarm at lists.opencsw.org Sat Jan 4 21:53:41 2014 From: buildfarm at lists.opencsw.org (Dagobert Michelsen via buildfarm) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 21:53:41 +0100 Subject: Low traffic on maintainers@ In-Reply-To: <52c5566f.sYaLJpr05kTFn3IN%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> References:

<20131229134913.GA13628@quince> <52c5566f.sYaLJpr05kTFn3IN%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Message-ID: <81E6C0C8-E9EF-4C12-AF88-3C420A73AE7F@opencsw.org> Hi Joerg, Am 02.01.2014 um 13:07 schrieb Joerg Schilling : > Dagobert Michelsen via buildfarm wrote: >> For me I can say I am spending more and more time doing actually upstream work >> like porting, communicating build issues and inspecting our buildbot results. >> This generally raises the bar on actual packaging work for me, unfortunately > > Is this a result of sagging upstream quality in general or a result of ignoring > POSIX compliant OS like Solaris? More like that newer features are used which are not available and that no care is taken to cope with big endian byteorder in 64 bit. Best regards ? Dago -- "You don't become great by trying to be great, you become great by wanting to do something, and then doing it so hard that you become great in the process." - xkcd #896 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2351 bytes Desc: not available URL: From buildfarm at lists.opencsw.org Sun Jan 5 16:30:05 2014 From: buildfarm at lists.opencsw.org (Ben Walton via buildfarm) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 15:30:05 +0000 Subject: Low traffic on maintainers@ In-Reply-To: References:

<20131229134913.GA13628@quince> Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Dagobert Michelsen via buildfarm wrote: > Hi folks, > > (f'up on maintainers@ after some discussion with Maciej) > > Am 29.12.2013 um 14:49 schrieb Maciej Blizi?ski : > >> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 04:43:49PM +0100, Dagobert Michelsen wrote: >>> Am 28.12.2013 um 13:49 schrieb Maciej (Matchek) Blizi?ski : >>>> Did you notice how quiet the maintainers mailing list has become? 25 messages compared to ~130 in previous years, I'm wondering if something's wrong? >>> >>> I'm afraid nothing is wrong and people are just moving away :-( Rupert announced >>> to not use Solaris any more, Phipsy also, and very few new maintainers. >> I'm no longer using Solaris either and I don't have the cycles to keep up with maintaining packages using only my personal time. I do miss being more involved in the community because it is a great, if small, group of talented people. >> Yes, maybe it's a fundamental problem where the use of Solaris goes >> down, and the general interest in packages does too. >> >> We had an influx of new people at some point, but it did not result in >> too much actually built packages. We've failed to follow up on them for >> more than a year and I fear that the opportunity is gone. For example, >> I contacted axisys, he responded and said wants to create a package with >> something, and he disappeared again. >> >> I think we've lowered the entry barrier, but maybe our packaging system is >> still arcane and based on tribal knowledge? I was recently surprised when a user declined becoming a maintainer because even after watching the video they thought it was still dark magic. I don't have a way to gauge the skills of this person, so I can't measure the person against the problem, but it was still noteworthy. Thanks -Ben -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take the risk of thinking for yourself. Much more happiness, truth, beauty and wisdom will come to you that way. -Christopher Hitchens --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From buildfarm at lists.opencsw.org Mon Jan 6 19:31:37 2014 From: buildfarm at lists.opencsw.org (Jonathan Craig via buildfarm) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 13:31:37 -0500 Subject: Low traffic on maintainers@ In-Reply-To: References:

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Message-ID: On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Ben Walton via buildfarm wrote: > > I'm no longer using Solaris either and I don't have the cycles to keep > up with maintaining packages using only my personal time. I do miss > being more involved in the community because it is a great, if small, > group of talented people. > I am continuously struck by the number of long term Solaris users who are no longer using Solaris. If it weren't for the negative licensing issues that oracle places on non-oracle operating system (ie hard partitioning required for sub system capacity licensing) we would be eliminating this os as well. I do think that Solaris has some fabulous features but its lack of FOSS support is staggering and oracle doesn't seem to really care. Solaris 11 supplies a bare minimum and its a bit self serving (postgres dropped, ruby is ancient, ...). ISV support is also headed down the tubes and many look at you strange when you even ask about solaris support. Solaris 11 finally fixes the packaging/patch issue but the lack of pkg based open source repository really takes the luster off this feature. > > I was recently surprised when a user declined becoming a maintainer > because even after watching the video they thought it was still dark > magic. I don't have a way to gauge the skills of this person, so I > can't measure the person against the problem, but it was still > noteworthy. > I must admit that my interaction with the build environment leaves me 1) amazed at the flexibility and power included, 2) frustrated that every time I use it I find myself relearning and/or struggling to figure out the process as it seems to subtly change in ways that you'll only know if you follow the dev list closely and commit the stuff mentioned on there to memory. I'm also faced with moving past Solaris 10 and the only viable pkg repo is unixpackages.com, the commercial follow-on to sunfreeware. The pricing is reasonable enough and my past experience with sunfreeware leads me to believe the packaging quality will be good. My preference is for a community supported repository solution as the attention span of corporations can be limited. My worst nightmare would be to have my eggs in a blastwave type basket and have it fold underneath me. Jon Craig From buildfarm at lists.opencsw.org Wed Jan 15 21:23:21 2014 From: buildfarm at lists.opencsw.org (Laurent Blume via buildfarm) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 21:23:21 +0100 Subject: Package removal: CSWimagemagick-dev Message-ID: <52D6EE39.6040002@opencsw.org> Hello people, Can you please remove CSWimagemagick-dev from the buildfarm? It prevents building the new version properly. As soon as it's done, I'll confirm. Thanks! Laurent From buildfarm at lists.opencsw.org Thu Jan 16 01:08:48 2014 From: buildfarm at lists.opencsw.org (Dagobert Michelsen via buildfarm) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 01:08:48 +0100 Subject: Package removal: CSWimagemagick-dev In-Reply-To: <52D6EE39.6040002@opencsw.org> References: <52D6EE39.6040002@opencsw.org> Message-ID: Hi Laurent, Am 15.01.2014 um 21:23 schrieb Laurent Blume via buildfarm : > Can you please remove CSWimagemagick-dev from the buildfarm? It prevents building the new version properly. As soon as it's done, I'll confirm. Done. Best regards ? Dago -- "You don't become great by trying to be great, you become great by wanting to do something, and then doing it so hard that you become great in the process." - xkcd #896 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <7B4CC44B-05F0-4C41-911D-E28A42B20A18@opencsw.org> Hi James, sorry for the delay, Ben is really busy these days. Am 12.01.2014 um 21:18 schrieb James Youngman : > Thanks! The key is attached. You should be able to login now with ssh jay at login.opencsw.org Please make sure to read /etc/SETUP. Just let me know if you need anything. Best regards ? Dago -- "You don't become great by trying to be great, you become great by wanting to do something, and then doing it so hard that you become great in the process." - xkcd #896 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com From buildfarm at lists.opencsw.org Sat Jan 18 18:55:06 2014 From: buildfarm at lists.opencsw.org (Dagobert Michelsen via buildfarm) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 18:55:06 +0100 Subject: Package install: CSWopenjpeg-dev In-Reply-To: <52DAA88A.2090504@opencsw.org> References: <52DAA88A.2090504@opencsw.org> Message-ID: Hi Laurent, Am 18.01.2014 um 17:15 schrieb Laurent Blume via buildfarm: > Can you please install the package CSWopenjpeg-dev on the buildfarm? Done. Best regards -- Dago From buildfarm at lists.opencsw.org Mon Jan 20 10:37:01 2014 From: buildfarm at lists.opencsw.org (rupert THURNER via buildfarm) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:37:01 +0100 Subject: Fwd: [genshi 0005140]: CSWgenshi-0.7 dosnt work with CSWtrac 0.12.2, REV=2012.01.29 In-Reply-To: <83ed0bdf787adcf90d3e0014966415e5@www.opencsw.org> References: <83ed0bdf787adcf90d3e0014966415e5@www.opencsw.org> Message-ID: Hi i upgraded trac, but it seems not to be in the catalog? Rupert ---------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ---------- Von: "Mantis Bug Tracker" Datum: 20.01.2014 09:25 Betreff: [genshi 0005140]: CSWgenshi-0.7 dosnt work with CSWtrac 0.12.2,REV=2012.01.29 An: The following issue has been REOPENED. ====================================================================== https://www.opencsw.org/mantis/view.php?id=5140 ====================================================================== Reported By: kaempfer Assigned To: ====================================================================== Project: genshi Issue ID: 5140 Category: regular use Reproducibility: always Severity: minor Priority: normal Status: feedback ====================================================================== Date Submitted: 2014-01-10 10:46 CET Last Modified: 2014-01-20 09:25 CET ====================================================================== Summary: CSWgenshi-0.7 dosnt work with CSWtrac 0.12.2,REV=2012.01.29 Description: after upgrade genshi-0.6 to genshi-0.7 Solaris10(sparc) trac dosn't work: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/csw/lib/python/site-packages/trac/web/api.py", line 440, in send_error data, 'text/html') File "/opt/csw/lib/python/site-packages/trac/web/chrome.py", line 885, in render_template location=location)) TracError: Genshi UnicodeEncodeError error while rendering template '/opt/csw/lib/python/site-packages/trac/templates/layout.html', line 12, char -1 If I downgrade to genshi-0.6 all is ok ====================================================================== ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (0010685) kaempfer (reporter) - 2014-01-20 09:25 https://www.opencsw.org/mantis/view.php?id=5140#c10685 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- in http://www.opencsw.org/get-it/packages/ I find trac 0.12.2,REV=2012.01.29 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Viel braucht es >>> nicht: GIT f?rs SCM, 'ne Portion Plattenplatz und ssh-Zugang via key. >>> >>> Von der Funktionalit?t her l?uft der Slave-Code ziemlich simpel: >>> User anlegen, das GIT-Repo (http://lug-owl.de/~jbglaw/git/brbs.git) >>> auschecken und den Inhalt (optimalerweise inkl. des >>> .git-Verzeichnisses, soda? ggf. Updates noch klappen---das mach' ich >>> aber nur manuell) ins Homedir verschieben. Dann w?rden wir ein, zwei >>> Test-Builds machen (--> da kann man ggf. noch gucken, ob noch >>> irgendwas in $PATH oder so gebraucht wird), danach kann der slave dann >>> in den scheduler kommen und taucht dann auch direkt auf der >>> ?bersichts-Website auf. >> >> Ok, dann ben?tige ich den Hostnamen und den Port des Masters, an den >> ich die Slaves h?ngen kann. Wenn Du auch auf das System schauen m?chtest >> ben?tige ich von Dir noch den gew?nschten Benutzernamen und Deinen SSH >> Public Key. Die Server haben alle schon buildbot, git, compiler etc. >> drauf. > > Benutzername ist mir egal, "jbglaw" w?rd' mir gefallen. Das hier ist > der Key: Das sollte jetzt gehen: ssh jbglaw at login.opencsw.org Die Konfiguration der Buildfarm steht in /etc/SETUP. Im wesentlich ist nur Login mit einer IP von au?en zu erreichen, kein NAT von den Buildhosts. Git ist so eingerichtet, dass Du transparent mit Proxy raus kannst, Subversion mit svn+proxy://?, ?buildslave? ist installiert. Die OpenCSW-Sachen sind alle unter /opt/csw installiert. Sag einfach Bescheid wenn ich helfen kann. Beste Gr??e ? Dago -- "You don't become great by trying to be great, you become great by wanting to do something, and then doing it so hard that you become great in the process." - xkcd #896 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2351 bytes Desc: not available URL: