From dclarke at blastwave.org  Tue Apr  1 18:19:07 2008
From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:19:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [csw-dev] Problem with cdrecord on Solaris 8 x86
Message-ID: <3998.72.39.133.97.1207066747.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>


[ This was lifted out of another thread ]

> Philip Brown <phil at bolthole.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 08:24:00PM -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote:
>> > I think that mplayer comes to mind as well as Jorg's cdrtools. I have
>> tried
>> > to make cdrecord work on Solaris 8 x86 to no avail.
>>
>> I thought I had it working on a sol8 box at one point.
>> just becuase it doesnt work for you, doesnt mean it wont work for
>> others... it's very hardware-specific.

Actually, I have no data that suggests it works for anyone on Solaris 8.

> The problem is that Sun did hose up the kernel....

  That is a *feeling* but I want facts.

I have two versions here on Solaris 8 x86.  Neither work :

# /opt/schily/bin/cdrecord --version
Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 2.01.01a37 (i386-pc-solaris2.8) Copyright (C)
1995-2008 J?rg Schilling

# /opt/csw/bin/cdrecord --version
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a27 (i386-pc-solaris2.8) Copyright (C)
1995-2007 J?rg Schilling

Unrelated note : the version from Blastwave is so far behind

> There are two known bugs for Solaris 8 that are responsible for the problem:
>
> -	No DMA, DMA is needed to write DVDs.
> 	For Solaris 8 FCS I have a patch, that works no longer if you install
> 	an "upgrade"

I can confirm that Solaris 8 x86 well patched will present no DMA
functionality.  At least not correctly.

> -	USCSI always returns redidual count == DMA count.
> 	Buggy programs like cdrw that do not chech return codes have no problem
> 	with this bug but cdrecord tells you that no transfer did take place.
> 	It is possible to circumvent this bug by using my scg driver, it
> 	correctly returns DMA residual counts.

In that case we need a document the process for the user to install ( or use
) the scg driver.  I can tell you that I have the currently released
versions of cdrtools from Blastwave here on Solaris 8. I also have the most
recent versions from sources.  Neither of those can effectively perform a
readcd or a cdrecord operation regardless of my buffer sizes or fifo sizes
etc etc.

The problem rest squarely on top of the Solaris 8 kernel and/or drivers
because this exact same piece of hardware can boot SchilliX live and burn
anything perfectly.  Of course I lose all my Adaptec SCSI controller based
disks but the DVD burners work fine.

Everything works perfectly with Solaris 10 Update 4 also.

That same machine has had Solaris 9 on it and that worked fine.

Solaris 8, or some component in Solaris 8, is the problem.

So then ... how do we implement your scg driver such that cdrecord works?

Dennis Clarke


From phil at bolthole.com  Tue Apr  1 18:26:25 2008
From: phil at bolthole.com (Philip Brown)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:26:25 -0700
Subject: [csw-dev] Problem with cdrecord on Solaris 8 x86
In-Reply-To: <3998.72.39.133.97.1207066747.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>;
	from dclarke@blastwave.org on Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 12:19:07PM
	-0400
References: <3998.72.39.133.97.1207066747.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <20080401092625.F27787@bolthole.com>

On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 12:19:07PM -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> 
> [ This was lifted out of another thread ]
> 
> > Philip Brown <phil at bolthole.com> wrote:
> >> I thought I had it working on a sol8 box at one point.
> >> just becuase it doesnt work for you, doesnt mean it wont work for
> >> others... it's very hardware-specific.
> 
> Actually, I have no data that suggests it works for anyone on Solaris 8.

Joerg himself, said that it DOES work.

firstly, for people running older versions of solaris, with his kernel patch.

secondly, it works with SCSI-attached units.

Now let's let this thread die. it doesnt belong here cluttering up people's
mailboxes any more.



From dclarke at blastwave.org  Tue Apr  1 18:55:36 2008
From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:55:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [csw-dev] Problem with cdrecord on Solaris 8 x86
In-Reply-To: <20080401092625.F27787@bolthole.com>
References: <3998.72.39.133.97.1207066747.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<20080401092625.F27787@bolthole.com>
Message-ID: <4148.72.39.133.97.1207068936.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>


> On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 12:19:07PM -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote:
>>
>> [ This was lifted out of another thread ]
>>
>> > Philip Brown <phil at bolthole.com> wrote:
>> >> I thought I had it working on a sol8 box at one point.
>> >> just becuase it doesnt work for you, doesnt mean it wont work for
>> >> others... it's very hardware-specific.
>>
>> Actually, I have no data that suggests it works for anyone on Solaris 8.
>
> Joerg himself, said that it DOES work.

 I have not seen it work.  Show me :-)

> firstly, for people running older versions of solaris, with his kernel
> patch.

  You mean a driver. I highly doubt that Jorg is going to patch genunix

> secondly, it works with SCSI-attached units.

  Have you seen it work ?

> Now let's let this thread die. it doesnt belong here cluttering up people's
> mailboxes any more.

I'll let it die when I see it work. Which I have not.

Dennis



From Ben.Taylor at Sun.COM  Tue Apr  1 19:03:56 2008
From: Ben.Taylor at Sun.COM (Ben Taylor)
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:03:56 -0400
Subject: [csw-dev] Problem with cdrecord on Solaris 8 x86
In-Reply-To: <4148.72.39.133.97.1207068936.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
References: <3998.72.39.133.97.1207066747.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<20080401092625.F27787@bolthole.com>
	<4148.72.39.133.97.1207068936.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <47F26AFC.2080209@Sun.COM>

Dennis Clarke wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 12:19:07PM -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote:
>>     
>>> [ This was lifted out of another thread ]
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Philip Brown <phil at bolthole.com> wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> I thought I had it working on a sol8 box at one point.
>>>>> just becuase it doesnt work for you, doesnt mean it wont work for
>>>>> others... it's very hardware-specific.
>>>>>           
>>> Actually, I have no data that suggests it works for anyone on Solaris 8.
>>>       
>> Joerg himself, said that it DOES work.
>>     
>
>  I have not seen it work.  Show me :-)
>
>   
>> firstly, for people running older versions of solaris, with his kernel
>> patch.
>>     
>
>   You mean a driver. I highly doubt that Jorg is going to patch genunix
>
>   
>> secondly, it works with SCSI-attached units.
>>     
>
>   Have you seen it work ?
>
>   
>> Now let's let this thread die. it doesnt belong here cluttering up people's
>> mailboxes any more.
>>     
>
> I'll let it die when I see it work. Which I have not.
>
> Dennis
>   
I think this falls into the category of the 6th standard deviation, 
where there is
probably 10-20 people still running Solaris 8/X86 and trying to use 
cdrecord.
If someone hasn't logged a bug about it not working, then I think it's 
probably
best just to drop it, given the amount of wasted effort it will be if 
noone really
needs to see it working.

Ben


From dclarke at blastwave.org  Tue Apr  1 19:23:47 2008
From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:23:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [csw-dev] Problem with cdrecord on Solaris 8 x86
In-Reply-To: <47F26AFC.2080209@Sun.COM>
References: <3998.72.39.133.97.1207066747.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<20080401092625.F27787@bolthole.com>
	<4148.72.39.133.97.1207068936.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<47F26AFC.2080209@Sun.COM>
Message-ID: <4168.72.39.133.97.1207070627.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>


>>
>> I'll let it die when I see it work. Which I have not.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
> I think this falls into the category of the 6th standard deviation,
> where there is probably 10-20 people still running Solaris 8/X86 and
> trying to use cdrecord.

You think there are that many ?

> If someone hasn't logged a bug about it not working, then I think it's
> probably best just to drop it, given the amount of wasted effort it will
> be if noone really needs to see it working.

I have a response to that.

Simply put, if I run a test run of some package on this baseline lowest
common denominator machine and the package does not function as expected
then that is the *valid* result of the test. It is a data point and I can
not erase it. It points to a failure somewhere.

If I test Ken May's GNOME packages on this exact same machine I eventually
get a good working set of packages. Does that mean they can be trusted? If
you are telling me that there is no reason at all to test on Solaris 8 x86
then by all means let me know and we can throw away the whole Solaris 8
build server. Why bother to build it on Solaris 8 if no one anywhere will
ever run it on Solaris 8 ?

No, I think that the ABI is a good concept and if something works well on
Solaris 8 x86 then it will work flawlessly on Solaris 9 and higher revs of
Solaris. If it does not run on Solaris 8 x86 then why would I assume it runs
anywhere else?

Either we do the testing or we don't.

Because we have William Bonnet working on XFCE and IF that will only ever be
tested on Solaris 10 x86 then hurrah for me and I'm a happy man. We can put
a bullet into this old test server. The same goes for my Sparc 20 here.

There has to be some baseline test criterion.  A firm statement that says
"it was tested and seen to be good on Solaris 8 x86 and on Solaris 8 Sparc".
If we can not say that .. then what are we doing here for the past five
years?

Please keep in mind that I can knee jerk respond as fast as anyone and if we
ditch the whole Solaris 8 test phase then great. Let's move forwards to
Solaris 10 where it is all working fine anyways.

Dennis Clarke



From dam at blastwave.org  Wed Apr  2 19:29:12 2008
From: dam at blastwave.org (Dagobert Michelsen)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 19:29:12 +0200
Subject: [csw-dev] zsh 4.3.6 in testing
Message-ID: <CEC23C00-695D-4B8D-9F51-948304D0232D@blastwave.org>

Hi,

finally all the failing zsh-tests have been fixed upstream
and there is now a superclean zsh 4.3.6 in testing/:

   zsh-4.3.6,REV=2008.04.02-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz
   zsh-4.3.6,REV=2008.04.02-SunOS5.8-sparc-CSW.pkg.gz

Feedback as always welcome!

   -- Dago


From ihsan at blastwave.org  Wed Apr  2 20:10:42 2008
From: ihsan at blastwave.org (Ihsan Dogan)
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:10:42 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] Developers renamed
Message-ID: <47F3CC22.7060308@blastwave.org>

Hello,

The Developers list is now renamed to devel. Please you
devel at lists.blastwave.org to send mails to this list.




Ihsan

-- 
http://blog.dogan.ch/
http://ihsan.dogan.ch/

From ihsan at blastwave.org  Wed Apr  2 20:13:19 2008
From: ihsan at blastwave.org (Ihsan Dogan)
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:13:19 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] Developers renamed
Message-ID: <47F3CCBF.8040408@blastwave.org>

Hello,

The Developers list is now renamed to devel. Please you
devel at lists.blastwave.org to send mails to this list.




Ihsan

-- 
http://blog.dogan.ch/
http://ihsan.dogan.ch/

From phil at bolthole.com  Wed Apr  2 20:18:46 2008
From: phil at bolthole.com (Philip Brown)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:18:46 -0700
Subject: [csw-devel] Developers renamed
In-Reply-To: <47F3CCBF.8040408@blastwave.org>;
	from ihsan@blastwave.org on Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 08:13:19PM +0200
References: <47F3CCBF.8040408@blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <20080402111846.F56307@bolthole.com>

On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 08:13:19PM +0200, Ihsan Dogan wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> The Developers list is now renamed to devel.


Cool! now we match up with most of the other "distro" type of organizations
out there :-)


From cptsalek at gmail.com  Fri Apr  4 17:19:51 2008
From: cptsalek at gmail.com (Christian Walther)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 17:19:51 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] Some packages are missing the .pc-Files
Message-ID: <14989d6e0804040819n7821d4a4u564f0eb07fe91e29@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

a few days ago I tried to compile Firefox 3.0b5 on Solaris 10/Sparc.
To make messing with dependencies easier for me, I downloaded the
current firefox2 blastwave package and gave configure a try.
It fails while trying to locate some pkgconfig-files - or the files it
found belonged to older packages, e.g. from /usr/sfw. I adjusted
PKG_CONFIG_PATH so that pkgconfig would search in
/opt/csw/lib/pkgconfig, but still no luck.
It turned out that some Blastwave packages obviously are missing the .pc files.
I checked this for gtk+-2.0.pc and for dbus-glib. The problem is that
the configure script terminates on every missing .pc-file.

Are these files missing intentionally, or should I file a bug report
for both packages?

Here's pkginfo -l on both packages:

% pkginfo -l CSWdbusglib
   PKGINST:  CSWdbusglib
      NAME:  dbus_glib - DBus GLib Bindings
  CATEGORY:  application
      ARCH:  sparc
   VERSION:  0.73,REV=2007.06.10
   BASEDIR:  /
    VENDOR:  http://dbus.freedesktop.org/releases/dbus-glib/ packaged
for CSW by William Bonnet
    PSTAMP:  wbonnet at ra-20070610165915
  INSTDATE:  Apr 02 2008 10:54
   HOTLINE:  http://www.blastwave.org/bugtrack/
     EMAIL:  wbonnet at blastwave.org
    STATUS:  completely installed
     FILES:        5 installed pathnames
                   3 executables
                 422 blocks used (approx)

% pkginfo -l CSWgtk2
   PKGINST:  CSWgtk2
      NAME:  gtk2 - GTK+, The multiplatform X11 toolkit for GUI development
  CATEGORY:  application
      ARCH:  sparc
   VERSION:  2.12.3
   BASEDIR:  /
    VENDOR:  http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/gtk+ packaged for
CSW by Ken Mays
    PSTAMP:  ra20071208131356
  INSTDATE:  Apr 02 2008 09:15
   HOTLINE:  http://www.blastwave.org/bugtrak/
     EMAIL:  kenmays at blastwave.org
    STATUS:  completely installed
     FILES:      860 installed pathnames
                 189 shared pathnames
                 225 directories
                  72 executables
               53871 blocks used (approx)


Regards,
Christian Walther

From phil at bolthole.com  Fri Apr  4 18:45:28 2008
From: phil at bolthole.com (Philip Brown)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 09:45:28 -0700
Subject: [csw-devel] Some packages are missing the .pc-Files
In-Reply-To: <14989d6e0804040819n7821d4a4u564f0eb07fe91e29@mail.gmail.com>;
	from cptsalek@gmail.com on Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 05:19:51PM +0200
References: <14989d6e0804040819n7821d4a4u564f0eb07fe91e29@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080404094528.C85921@bolthole.com>

On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 05:19:51PM +0200, Christian Walther wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> a few days ago I tried to compile Firefox 3.0b5 on Solaris 10/Sparc.
> To make messing with dependencies easier for me, I downloaded the
> current firefox2 blastwave package and gave configure a try.
> It fails while trying to locate some pkgconfig-files - or the files it
> found belonged to older packages, e.g. from /usr/sfw. I adjusted
> PKG_CONFIG_PATH so that pkgconfig would search in
> /opt/csw/lib/pkgconfig, but still no luck.
> It turned out that some Blastwave packages obviously are missing the .pc files.
> I checked this for gtk+-2.0.pc and for dbus-glib. The problem is that
> the configure script terminates on every missing .pc-file.
> 
> Are these files missing intentionally, or should I file a bug report
> for both packages?



Perhaps you are having issues becuase you are trying to compile in a mixed
sfw/csw environment.

Try
rm -rf
on your build tree, then take /usr/sfw out of your $PATH, LD_PATH, and
anything else. Then try configuring again.


From jwheeler at blastwave.org  Sat Apr  5 02:48:01 2008
From: jwheeler at blastwave.org (Jonathan Wheeler)
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:48:01 +1300
Subject: [csw-devel] Some packages are missing the .pc-Files
In-Reply-To: <14989d6e0804040819n7821d4a4u564f0eb07fe91e29@mail.gmail.com>
References: <14989d6e0804040819n7821d4a4u564f0eb07fe91e29@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47F6CC41.4040005@blastwave.org>

Christian Walther wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> a few days ago I tried to compile Firefox 3.0b5 on Solaris 10/Sparc.

> It turned out that some Blastwave packages obviously are missing the .pc files.
> I checked this for gtk+-2.0.pc and for dbus-glib. The problem is that
> the configure script terminates on every missing .pc-file.
> 
> Are these files missing intentionally, or should I file a bug report
> for both packages?

To my understanding, there is a push to avoid retaining libtool files 
(.la) wherever possible. Obviously for existing packages that already 
have them, they can't simply be removed as other packages are already 
depending on them.

I'm not sure what the policy is on .pc files however. I think we're 
meant to retain them everywhere, as pkgconfig is less forgiven than 
libtool when it comes to missing .pc files - as you're discovering.

I know that wasn't quite the focus of your email, but it seems an 
appropriate time to clarify this point. Phil - what are we doing with 
.pc files on the packaging front?

Jonathan

From phil at bolthole.com  Mon Apr  7 18:22:45 2008
From: phil at bolthole.com (Philip Brown)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 09:22:45 -0700
Subject: [csw-devel] Some packages are missing the .pc-Files
In-Reply-To: <47F6CC41.4040005@blastwave.org>;
	from jwheeler@blastwave.org on Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 01:48:01PM
	+1300
References: <14989d6e0804040819n7821d4a4u564f0eb07fe91e29@mail.gmail.com>
	<47F6CC41.4040005@blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <20080407092245.F90697@bolthole.com>

On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 01:48:01PM +1300, Jonathan Wheeler wrote:
> To my understanding, there is a push to avoid retaining libtool files 
> (.la) wherever possible. Obviously for existing packages that already 
> have them, they can't simply be removed as other packages are already 
> depending on them.
> 
> I'm not sure what the policy is on .pc files however. I think we're 
> meant to retain them everywhere, as pkgconfig is less forgiven than 
> libtool when it comes to missing .pc files - as you're discovering.
> 
> I know that wasn't quite the focus of your email, but it seems an 
> appropriate time to clarify this point. Phil - what are we doing with 
> .pc files on the packaging front?

libtool files are being "removed with extreme prejudice" where practical,
becuase they break things,and generally cause a mess.

other config files, such as .pc files, are generally well-behaved. there is
no bounty out, for destruction of .pc files :-)

From cptsalek at gmail.com  Mon Apr  7 21:25:25 2008
From: cptsalek at gmail.com (Christian Walther)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 19:25:25 +0000
Subject: [csw-devel] Some packages are missing the .pc-Files
In-Reply-To: <20080407092245.F90697@bolthole.com>
References: <14989d6e0804040819n7821d4a4u564f0eb07fe91e29@mail.gmail.com>
	<47F6CC41.4040005@blastwave.org> <20080407092245.F90697@bolthole.com>
Message-ID: <14989d6e0804071225xd9299belee1390a16f2315ab@mail.gmail.com>

On 07/04/2008, Philip Brown <phil at bolthole.com> wrote:
[...]
>  other config files, such as .pc files, are generally well-behaved. there is
>  no bounty out, for destruction of .pc files :-)

But the .pc-files for the two packages I mentioned (gtk+ and
dbus-glib) are missing anyway. ;-)
So what to do? File a bugreport?

From phil at bolthole.com  Mon Apr  7 21:47:44 2008
From: phil at bolthole.com (Philip Brown)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:47:44 -0700
Subject: [csw-devel] Some packages are missing the .pc-Files
In-Reply-To: <14989d6e0804071225xd9299belee1390a16f2315ab@mail.gmail.com>;
	from cptsalek@gmail.com on Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 07:25:25PM +0000
References: <14989d6e0804040819n7821d4a4u564f0eb07fe91e29@mail.gmail.com>
	<47F6CC41.4040005@blastwave.org>
	<20080407092245.F90697@bolthole.com>
	<14989d6e0804071225xd9299belee1390a16f2315ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080407124744.R90697@bolthole.com>

On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 07:25:25PM +0000, Christian Walther wrote:
> On 07/04/2008, Philip Brown <phil at bolthole.com> wrote:
> [...]
> >  other config files, such as .pc files, are generally well-behaved. there is
> >  no bounty out, for destruction of .pc files :-)
> 
> But the .pc-files for the two packages I mentioned (gtk+ and
> dbus-glib) are missing anyway. ;-)
> So what to do? File a bugreport?

i would say,

#1 IF a usual cycle of "configure;make/install" on those softwares
   usually generates them, and
#2 IF it isnt actually possible to build stuff without them

then yes file a bug report.

However, I think that the software you were trying to build, CAN be built
without them, so you should probably discuss it more indepth with the
current firefox mainaintainer, as to just how he manages to built it
without those files.


If, however, #1 is NOT true, then I think it would be appropriate if you
did a little more research yourself into where these files usually come
from and why. 

Additionally, for #2: I think that you first need to see what happens when
you remove /usr/sfw stuff from your PATH, and/or actually rename the thing
temporarily.
If you are picking up conflicting .pc definitions from somewheres under
/usr/sfw, then it really isnt "our" fault to fix, eh?

From drmarkfvilla at san.rr.com  Tue Apr  8 09:15:25 2008
From: drmarkfvilla at san.rr.com (Mark F. Villa)
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:15:25 -0700
Subject: [csw-devel] MediaTomb packages in 'test' area
Message-ID: <47FB1B8D.8030303@san.rr.com>

I'm still having trouble with the maintainers list, but I've added SPARC 
and i386
'MediaTomb' packages to the test area:

/export/medusa/testing/mediatomb-0.11.0,REV=2008.03.23-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg
/export/medusa/testing/mediatomb-0.11.0,REV=2008.03.23-SunOS5.8-sparc-CSW.pkg

MediaTomb is a media server that may be used with rendering devices such 
as the
PS3. Please pass along any feedback.

Thank you.


From aubreylee at gmail.com  Thu Apr 10 11:05:42 2008
From: aubreylee at gmail.com (Aubrey Li)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:05:42 +0800
Subject: [csw-devel] mailing list issue
Message-ID: <6d6a94c50804100205t6d69c299xe7df83c8f262975e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi list,

I can received mail from maintainers at lists.blastwave.org,
But I can't reply, I was told I need approved.
Please help me out.

Thanks,
-Aubrey

From dam at blastwave.org  Thu Apr 10 11:11:29 2008
From: dam at blastwave.org (Dagobert Michelsen)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:11:29 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] mailing list issue
In-Reply-To: <6d6a94c50804100205t6d69c299xe7df83c8f262975e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6d6a94c50804100205t6d69c299xe7df83c8f262975e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <41596276-EC85-4C0A-8FC1-635B786E5AEF@blastwave.org>

Hi Aubrey,

Am 10.04.2008 um 11:05 schrieb Aubrey Li:
> I can received mail from maintainers at lists.blastwave.org,
> But I can't reply, I was told I need approved.

Please make sure that you post with the e-mail address
you have registered for the mailing list and are
receiving mail for. Most likely you are mailing from
another e-mail address or an alias.


Best regards

   -- Dagobert

From aubreylee at gmail.com  Thu Apr 10 11:17:55 2008
From: aubreylee at gmail.com (Aubrey Li)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:17:55 +0800
Subject: [csw-devel] mailing list issue
In-Reply-To: <41596276-EC85-4C0A-8FC1-635B786E5AEF@blastwave.org>
References: <6d6a94c50804100205t6d69c299xe7df83c8f262975e@mail.gmail.com>
	<41596276-EC85-4C0A-8FC1-635B786E5AEF@blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <6d6a94c50804100217m3e974aa0n91bd211be2304ca9@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Dagobert Michelsen <dam at blastwave.org> wrote:
> Hi Aubrey,
>
>  Am 10.04.2008 um 11:05 schrieb Aubrey Li:
>
>
> > I can received mail from maintainers at lists.blastwave.org,
> > But I can't reply, I was told I need approved.
> >
>
>  Please make sure that you post with the e-mail address
>  you have registered for the mailing list and are
>  receiving mail for. Most likely you are mailing from
>  another e-mail address or an alias.
>

Yeah, I know the point. I received mail from aubrey AT blastwave.org,
of course I set my .forward file on the mail server. so actually I received
mail from my real email address. that makes sense I can't reply.

So, my question is, how to send email through aubrey AT blastwave.org?

Thanks,
-Aubrey

From dam at blastwave.org  Thu Apr 10 11:30:45 2008
From: dam at blastwave.org (Dagobert Michelsen)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:30:45 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] mailing list issue
In-Reply-To: <6d6a94c50804100217m3e974aa0n91bd211be2304ca9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6d6a94c50804100205t6d69c299xe7df83c8f262975e@mail.gmail.com>
	<41596276-EC85-4C0A-8FC1-635B786E5AEF@blastwave.org>
	<6d6a94c50804100217m3e974aa0n91bd211be2304ca9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <089370F6-7E63-4DD3-AE02-2B3ECE6C3258@blastwave.org>

Hi Aubrey,

Am 10.04.2008 um 11:17 schrieb Aubrey Li:
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Dagobert Michelsen  
> <dam at blastwave.org> wrote:
>>  Am 10.04.2008 um 11:05 schrieb Aubrey Li:
>>> I can received mail from maintainers at lists.blastwave.org,
>>> But I can't reply, I was told I need approved.
>>
>>  Please make sure that you post with the e-mail address
>>  you have registered for the mailing list and are
>>  receiving mail for. Most likely you are mailing from
>>  another e-mail address or an alias.
>
> Yeah, I know the point. I received mail from aubrey AT blastwave.org,
> of course I set my .forward file on the mail server. so actually I  
> received
> mail from my real email address. that makes sense I can't reply.
>
> So, my question is, how to send email through aubrey AT blastwave.org?

Use the following settings:

   Server: enterprise.blastwave.org
     Port: 25
  Use SSL: Yes
Identify: By Password
Username: aubrey
Password: (Your Password)

Best regards

   -- Dago

From aubreylee at gmail.com  Thu Apr 10 11:45:53 2008
From: aubreylee at gmail.com (Aubrey Li)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:45:53 +0800
Subject: [csw-devel] mailing list issue
In-Reply-To: <089370F6-7E63-4DD3-AE02-2B3ECE6C3258@blastwave.org>
References: <6d6a94c50804100205t6d69c299xe7df83c8f262975e@mail.gmail.com>
	<41596276-EC85-4C0A-8FC1-635B786E5AEF@blastwave.org>
	<6d6a94c50804100217m3e974aa0n91bd211be2304ca9@mail.gmail.com>
	<089370F6-7E63-4DD3-AE02-2B3ECE6C3258@blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <6d6a94c50804100245g6c154509j4e8ded84dc080b7d@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Dagobert Michelsen <dam at blastwave.org> wrote:
> Hi Aubrey,
>
>  Am 10.04.2008 um 11:17 schrieb Aubrey Li:
>
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Dagobert Michelsen <dam at blastwave.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >  Am 10.04.2008 um 11:05 schrieb Aubrey Li:
> > >
> > > > I can received mail from maintainers at lists.blastwave.org,
> > > > But I can't reply, I was told I need approved.
> > > >
> > >
> > >  Please make sure that you post with the e-mail address
> > >  you have registered for the mailing list and are
> > >  receiving mail for. Most likely you are mailing from
> > >  another e-mail address or an alias.
> > >
> >
> > Yeah, I know the point. I received mail from aubrey AT blastwave.org,
> > of course I set my .forward file on the mail server. so actually I
> received
> > mail from my real email address. that makes sense I can't reply.
> >
> > So, my question is, how to send email through aubrey AT blastwave.org?
> >
>
>  Use the following settings:
>
>   Server: enterprise.blastwave.org
>     Port: 25
>   Use SSL: Yes
>  Identify: By Password
>  Username: aubrey
>  Password: (Your Password)
>
>  Best regards
>
>   -- Dago
>
Password? I don't remember I set any password for blastwave,
I was just asked to submit ssh key.

Thanks,
-Aubrey

From dam at blastwave.org  Thu Apr 10 11:57:29 2008
From: dam at blastwave.org (Dagobert Michelsen)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:57:29 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] mailing list issue
In-Reply-To: <6d6a94c50804100245g6c154509j4e8ded84dc080b7d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6d6a94c50804100205t6d69c299xe7df83c8f262975e@mail.gmail.com>
	<41596276-EC85-4C0A-8FC1-635B786E5AEF@blastwave.org>
	<6d6a94c50804100217m3e974aa0n91bd211be2304ca9@mail.gmail.com>
	<089370F6-7E63-4DD3-AE02-2B3ECE6C3258@blastwave.org>
	<6d6a94c50804100245g6c154509j4e8ded84dc080b7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <021EEF9F-54FB-426C-B114-9228699829EC@blastwave.org>

Hi Aubrey,

Am 10.04.2008 um 11:45 schrieb Aubrey Li:
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Dagobert Michelsen  
> <dam at blastwave.org> wrote:
>>  Use the following settings:
>>
>>   Server: enterprise.blastwave.org
>>     Port: 25
>>   Use SSL: Yes
>>  Identify: By Password
>>  Username: aubrey
>>  Password: (Your Password)
>
> Password? I don't remember I set any password for blastwave,
> I was just asked to submit ssh key.

Ihsan can help you on that. I cc'ed him for this posting.

Best regards

   -- Dago

From ihsan at blastwave.org  Thu Apr 10 12:28:47 2008
From: ihsan at blastwave.org (Ihsan Dogan)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:28:47 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] mailing list issue
In-Reply-To: <021EEF9F-54FB-426C-B114-9228699829EC@blastwave.org>
References: <6d6a94c50804100205t6d69c299xe7df83c8f262975e@mail.gmail.com>	<41596276-EC85-4C0A-8FC1-635B786E5AEF@blastwave.org>	<6d6a94c50804100217m3e974aa0n91bd211be2304ca9@mail.gmail.com>	<089370F6-7E63-4DD3-AE02-2B3ECE6C3258@blastwave.org>	<6d6a94c50804100245g6c154509j4e8ded84dc080b7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<021EEF9F-54FB-426C-B114-9228699829EC@blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <47FDEBDF.4090905@blastwave.org>

Am 10.4.2008 11:57 Uhr, Dagobert Michelsen schrieb:

>> Password? I don't remember I set any password for blastwave,
>> I was just asked to submit ssh key.
> Ihsan can help you on that. I cc'ed him for this posting.

reply --> off list

-- 
ihsan at dogan.ch		http://blog.dogan.ch/

From ihsan at blastwave.org  Thu Apr 10 12:28:59 2008
From: ihsan at blastwave.org (Ihsan Dogan)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:28:59 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] mailing list issue
In-Reply-To: <021EEF9F-54FB-426C-B114-9228699829EC@blastwave.org>
References: <6d6a94c50804100205t6d69c299xe7df83c8f262975e@mail.gmail.com>	<41596276-EC85-4C0A-8FC1-635B786E5AEF@blastwave.org>	<6d6a94c50804100217m3e974aa0n91bd211be2304ca9@mail.gmail.com>	<089370F6-7E63-4DD3-AE02-2B3ECE6C3258@blastwave.org>	<6d6a94c50804100245g6c154509j4e8ded84dc080b7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<021EEF9F-54FB-426C-B114-9228699829EC@blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <47FDEBEB.8000801@blastwave.org>

Am 10.4.2008 11:57 Uhr, Dagobert Michelsen schrieb:

>> Password? I don't remember I set any password for blastwave,
>> I was just asked to submit ssh key.
> Ihsan can help you on that. I cc'ed him for this posting.

reply --> off list

-- 
ihsan at dogan.ch		http://blog.dogan.ch/

From phil at bolthole.com  Thu Apr 10 20:23:26 2008
From: phil at bolthole.com (Philip Brown)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:23:26 -0700
Subject: [csw-devel] mailing list issue
In-Reply-To: <6d6a94c50804100245g6c154509j4e8ded84dc080b7d@mail.gmail.com>;
	from aubreylee@gmail.com on Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 05:45:53PM +0800
References: <6d6a94c50804100205t6d69c299xe7df83c8f262975e@mail.gmail.com>
	<41596276-EC85-4C0A-8FC1-635B786E5AEF@blastwave.org>
	<6d6a94c50804100217m3e974aa0n91bd211be2304ca9@mail.gmail.com>
	<089370F6-7E63-4DD3-AE02-2B3ECE6C3258@blastwave.org>
	<6d6a94c50804100245g6c154509j4e8ded84dc080b7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080410112326.L25828@bolthole.com>

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 05:45:53PM +0800, Aubrey Li wrote:
> >  Use the following settings:
> >
> >   Server: enterprise.blastwave.org
> >     Port: 25
> >   Use SSL: Yes
> >  Identify: By Password
> >  Username: aubrey
> >  Password: (Your Password)
>...
> Password? I don't remember I set any password for blastwave,
> I was just asked to submit ssh key.

and/or, you can use pine from mail.blastwave.org (aka enterprise)
and that should work also.

but send email to yourself first, to see if the From: addr looks correct.

From trygvel at blastwave.org  Sat Apr 12 11:10:18 2008
From: trygvel at blastwave.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trygve_Laugst=F8l?=)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:10:18 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] mailing list issue
In-Reply-To: <089370F6-7E63-4DD3-AE02-2B3ECE6C3258@blastwave.org>
References: <6d6a94c50804100205t6d69c299xe7df83c8f262975e@mail.gmail.com>
	<41596276-EC85-4C0A-8FC1-635B786E5AEF@blastwave.org>
	<6d6a94c50804100217m3e974aa0n91bd211be2304ca9@mail.gmail.com>
	<089370F6-7E63-4DD3-AE02-2B3ECE6C3258@blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <48007C7A.8000400@blastwave.org>

Dagobert Michelsen wrote:
> Hi Aubrey,
> 
> Am 10.04.2008 um 11:17 schrieb Aubrey Li:
>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Dagobert Michelsen  
>> <dam at blastwave.org> wrote:
>>>  Am 10.04.2008 um 11:05 schrieb Aubrey Li:
>>>> I can received mail from maintainers at lists.blastwave.org,
>>>> But I can't reply, I was told I need approved.
>>>  Please make sure that you post with the e-mail address
>>>  you have registered for the mailing list and are
>>>  receiving mail for. Most likely you are mailing from
>>>  another e-mail address or an alias.
>> Yeah, I know the point. I received mail from aubrey AT blastwave.org,
>> of course I set my .forward file on the mail server. so actually I  
>> received
>> mail from my real email address. that makes sense I can't reply.
>>
>> So, my question is, how to send email through aubrey AT blastwave.org?
> 
> Use the following settings:
> 
>    Server: enterprise.blastwave.org
>      Port: 25
>   Use SSL: Yes
> Identify: By Password
> Username: aubrey
> Password: (Your Password)

Or just configure your email client to use aubrey at blastwave.org as 
sender. In thunderbird it is as easy as Account Settings -> Manage 
Identities.

Way easier..

--
Trygve


From dam at blastwave.org  Wed Apr 23 09:09:35 2008
From: dam at blastwave.org (Dagobert Michelsen)
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:09:35 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] Multi-ISA GAR
In-Reply-To: <480E4591.7020403@pleiades.fr.eu.org>
References: <20080319100038.C3150@bolthole.com>
	<33F3A8F3-6FA2-4E2E-91D2-6909A9902BCC@blastwave.org>
	<47E805E3.1060705@pleiades.fr.eu.org>
	<F5645699-8B12-4DD0-BA05-FD383BE95C47@blastwave.org>
	<47E822E4.6080608@pleiades.fr.eu.org>
	<EA0A9D34-86ED-4417-A6AE-9C2D905AE2B3@blastwave.org>
	<480E4591.7020403@pleiades.fr.eu.org>
Message-ID: <B0463A73-3153-4DDA-A4A1-98F57A602313@blastwave.org>

Hi Yann,

Am 22.04.2008 um 22:07 schrieb Yann Rouillard:
> Dagobert Michelsen wrote:
>> Am 24.03.2008 um 22:53 schrieb Yann Rouillard:
>>> Dagobert Michelsen a ?crit :
>>> Well, I definitely think there are other packages like openssl,  
>>> don't underestimate the imagination of developpers, althought it  
>>> shouldn't be the majority.
>> After some more thinking I think this would be a good idea:
>> - configure for each ISA to the same standard locations
>>   (e. g. bindir without $ISA suffix)
>> - install each ISA to a different, ISA-specific tree
>> - user-settable scripts allow merging of these trees
>>   verbatim, select specific binaries or move them to
>>   $ISA subdirs
>> I'll may have some time next week to prepare something.
>
> Have you had some time to work on it ?

Currently my time is limited, but I made an
intermediate commit
   http://svn.blastwave.org/trac/changeset/2075
for merge-support. Proper handling of isaexec is
still missing. The implementation follows what I
have outlined above. Installations still go to
DESTDIR, but the package is build from DESTBUILD.
The files are copied from DESTDIR to DESTBUILD during
the merge phase. There are default-scripts for
verbatim-copying and relocation to ISA subdirs
which are preselected depending on the number of
ISA build. The scripts can be easily replaced
by custom scripts. Relocation during copy is done
with regular expressions as parameters to 'pax'.

After isaexec is handled properly I'll write up
some documentation and try to get this to trunk/.


Feedback is very welcome!

Best regards

   -- Dago

From dam at blastwave.org  Tue Apr 29 09:22:12 2008
From: dam at blastwave.org (Dagobert Michelsen)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:22:12 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] [csw-maintainers] Package classification and
	svn:ignores
In-Reply-To: <4707DDCF.7020008@blastwave.org>
References: <4707DDCF.7020008@blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <63FDC527-8CB4-4CE5-B64B-C570E6208997@blastwave.org>

Hi,

Am 06.10.2007 um 21:11 schrieb Trygve Laugst?l:
> 2) I'd like to add the svn:ignore Subversion property to all  
> directories
> hosting packages (IOW trunk/*/*) with the following value:
>
> work
> download
> cookies

I would like to pick up Trygves initiative again. Some time
ago I talked with Phil about including revision numbers in
the pkginfo in the form
   PSTAMP=GAR-r#######-YYYMMDDHHMMSS
When the PSTAMP is set the directory in inspected with an
"svn status". If there are uncommited changes, unadded files
or anything else that looks strange the PSTAMP is modified
     PSTAMP=GAR-r#######UNCOMMITTED-YYYMMDDHHMMSS
to make it clear that the package is not reproducible by
checking out the current sources. "Anything strange" also
means files which are not in the repository which should be
ignored. If there are more files to be produced they must
be added manually, but I think that is a good idea as it
shows the maintainer has actively decided not to include them.
Therefore this property should be set on all directories.

Ideas, as always, welcome.


Best regards

   -- Dago

From dclarke at blastwave.org  Tue Apr  1 18:19:07 2008
From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:19:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [csw-dev] Problem with cdrecord on Solaris 8 x86
Message-ID: <3998.72.39.133.97.1207066747.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>


[ This was lifted out of another thread ]

> Philip Brown <phil at bolthole.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 08:24:00PM -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote:
>> > I think that mplayer comes to mind as well as Jorg's cdrtools. I have
>> tried
>> > to make cdrecord work on Solaris 8 x86 to no avail.
>>
>> I thought I had it working on a sol8 box at one point.
>> just becuase it doesnt work for you, doesnt mean it wont work for
>> others... it's very hardware-specific.

Actually, I have no data that suggests it works for anyone on Solaris 8.

> The problem is that Sun did hose up the kernel....

  That is a *feeling* but I want facts.

I have two versions here on Solaris 8 x86.  Neither work :

# /opt/schily/bin/cdrecord --version
Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 2.01.01a37 (i386-pc-solaris2.8) Copyright (C)
1995-2008 J?rg Schilling

# /opt/csw/bin/cdrecord --version
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a27 (i386-pc-solaris2.8) Copyright (C)
1995-2007 J?rg Schilling

Unrelated note : the version from Blastwave is so far behind

> There are two known bugs for Solaris 8 that are responsible for the problem:
>
> -	No DMA, DMA is needed to write DVDs.
> 	For Solaris 8 FCS I have a patch, that works no longer if you install
> 	an "upgrade"

I can confirm that Solaris 8 x86 well patched will present no DMA
functionality.  At least not correctly.

> -	USCSI always returns redidual count == DMA count.
> 	Buggy programs like cdrw that do not chech return codes have no problem
> 	with this bug but cdrecord tells you that no transfer did take place.
> 	It is possible to circumvent this bug by using my scg driver, it
> 	correctly returns DMA residual counts.

In that case we need a document the process for the user to install ( or use
) the scg driver.  I can tell you that I have the currently released
versions of cdrtools from Blastwave here on Solaris 8. I also have the most
recent versions from sources.  Neither of those can effectively perform a
readcd or a cdrecord operation regardless of my buffer sizes or fifo sizes
etc etc.

The problem rest squarely on top of the Solaris 8 kernel and/or drivers
because this exact same piece of hardware can boot SchilliX live and burn
anything perfectly.  Of course I lose all my Adaptec SCSI controller based
disks but the DVD burners work fine.

Everything works perfectly with Solaris 10 Update 4 also.

That same machine has had Solaris 9 on it and that worked fine.

Solaris 8, or some component in Solaris 8, is the problem.

So then ... how do we implement your scg driver such that cdrecord works?

Dennis Clarke


From phil at bolthole.com  Tue Apr  1 18:26:25 2008
From: phil at bolthole.com (Philip Brown)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:26:25 -0700
Subject: [csw-dev] Problem with cdrecord on Solaris 8 x86
In-Reply-To: <3998.72.39.133.97.1207066747.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>;
	from dclarke@blastwave.org on Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 12:19:07PM
	-0400
References: <3998.72.39.133.97.1207066747.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <20080401092625.F27787@bolthole.com>

On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 12:19:07PM -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> 
> [ This was lifted out of another thread ]
> 
> > Philip Brown <phil at bolthole.com> wrote:
> >> I thought I had it working on a sol8 box at one point.
> >> just becuase it doesnt work for you, doesnt mean it wont work for
> >> others... it's very hardware-specific.
> 
> Actually, I have no data that suggests it works for anyone on Solaris 8.

Joerg himself, said that it DOES work.

firstly, for people running older versions of solaris, with his kernel patch.

secondly, it works with SCSI-attached units.

Now let's let this thread die. it doesnt belong here cluttering up people's
mailboxes any more.



From dclarke at blastwave.org  Tue Apr  1 18:55:36 2008
From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:55:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [csw-dev] Problem with cdrecord on Solaris 8 x86
In-Reply-To: <20080401092625.F27787@bolthole.com>
References: <3998.72.39.133.97.1207066747.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<20080401092625.F27787@bolthole.com>
Message-ID: <4148.72.39.133.97.1207068936.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>


> On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 12:19:07PM -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote:
>>
>> [ This was lifted out of another thread ]
>>
>> > Philip Brown <phil at bolthole.com> wrote:
>> >> I thought I had it working on a sol8 box at one point.
>> >> just becuase it doesnt work for you, doesnt mean it wont work for
>> >> others... it's very hardware-specific.
>>
>> Actually, I have no data that suggests it works for anyone on Solaris 8.
>
> Joerg himself, said that it DOES work.

 I have not seen it work.  Show me :-)

> firstly, for people running older versions of solaris, with his kernel
> patch.

  You mean a driver. I highly doubt that Jorg is going to patch genunix

> secondly, it works with SCSI-attached units.

  Have you seen it work ?

> Now let's let this thread die. it doesnt belong here cluttering up people's
> mailboxes any more.

I'll let it die when I see it work. Which I have not.

Dennis



From Ben.Taylor at Sun.COM  Tue Apr  1 19:03:56 2008
From: Ben.Taylor at Sun.COM (Ben Taylor)
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:03:56 -0400
Subject: [csw-dev] Problem with cdrecord on Solaris 8 x86
In-Reply-To: <4148.72.39.133.97.1207068936.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
References: <3998.72.39.133.97.1207066747.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<20080401092625.F27787@bolthole.com>
	<4148.72.39.133.97.1207068936.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <47F26AFC.2080209@Sun.COM>

Dennis Clarke wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 12:19:07PM -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote:
>>     
>>> [ This was lifted out of another thread ]
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Philip Brown <phil at bolthole.com> wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> I thought I had it working on a sol8 box at one point.
>>>>> just becuase it doesnt work for you, doesnt mean it wont work for
>>>>> others... it's very hardware-specific.
>>>>>           
>>> Actually, I have no data that suggests it works for anyone on Solaris 8.
>>>       
>> Joerg himself, said that it DOES work.
>>     
>
>  I have not seen it work.  Show me :-)
>
>   
>> firstly, for people running older versions of solaris, with his kernel
>> patch.
>>     
>
>   You mean a driver. I highly doubt that Jorg is going to patch genunix
>
>   
>> secondly, it works with SCSI-attached units.
>>     
>
>   Have you seen it work ?
>
>   
>> Now let's let this thread die. it doesnt belong here cluttering up people's
>> mailboxes any more.
>>     
>
> I'll let it die when I see it work. Which I have not.
>
> Dennis
>   
I think this falls into the category of the 6th standard deviation, 
where there is
probably 10-20 people still running Solaris 8/X86 and trying to use 
cdrecord.
If someone hasn't logged a bug about it not working, then I think it's 
probably
best just to drop it, given the amount of wasted effort it will be if 
noone really
needs to see it working.

Ben


From dclarke at blastwave.org  Tue Apr  1 19:23:47 2008
From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:23:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [csw-dev] Problem with cdrecord on Solaris 8 x86
In-Reply-To: <47F26AFC.2080209@Sun.COM>
References: <3998.72.39.133.97.1207066747.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<20080401092625.F27787@bolthole.com>
	<4148.72.39.133.97.1207068936.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<47F26AFC.2080209@Sun.COM>
Message-ID: <4168.72.39.133.97.1207070627.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>


>>
>> I'll let it die when I see it work. Which I have not.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
> I think this falls into the category of the 6th standard deviation,
> where there is probably 10-20 people still running Solaris 8/X86 and
> trying to use cdrecord.

You think there are that many ?

> If someone hasn't logged a bug about it not working, then I think it's
> probably best just to drop it, given the amount of wasted effort it will
> be if noone really needs to see it working.

I have a response to that.

Simply put, if I run a test run of some package on this baseline lowest
common denominator machine and the package does not function as expected
then that is the *valid* result of the test. It is a data point and I can
not erase it. It points to a failure somewhere.

If I test Ken May's GNOME packages on this exact same machine I eventually
get a good working set of packages. Does that mean they can be trusted? If
you are telling me that there is no reason at all to test on Solaris 8 x86
then by all means let me know and we can throw away the whole Solaris 8
build server. Why bother to build it on Solaris 8 if no one anywhere will
ever run it on Solaris 8 ?

No, I think that the ABI is a good concept and if something works well on
Solaris 8 x86 then it will work flawlessly on Solaris 9 and higher revs of
Solaris. If it does not run on Solaris 8 x86 then why would I assume it runs
anywhere else?

Either we do the testing or we don't.

Because we have William Bonnet working on XFCE and IF that will only ever be
tested on Solaris 10 x86 then hurrah for me and I'm a happy man. We can put
a bullet into this old test server. The same goes for my Sparc 20 here.

There has to be some baseline test criterion.  A firm statement that says
"it was tested and seen to be good on Solaris 8 x86 and on Solaris 8 Sparc".
If we can not say that .. then what are we doing here for the past five
years?

Please keep in mind that I can knee jerk respond as fast as anyone and if we
ditch the whole Solaris 8 test phase then great. Let's move forwards to
Solaris 10 where it is all working fine anyways.

Dennis Clarke



From dam at blastwave.org  Wed Apr  2 19:29:12 2008
From: dam at blastwave.org (Dagobert Michelsen)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 19:29:12 +0200
Subject: [csw-dev] zsh 4.3.6 in testing
Message-ID: <CEC23C00-695D-4B8D-9F51-948304D0232D@blastwave.org>

Hi,

finally all the failing zsh-tests have been fixed upstream
and there is now a superclean zsh 4.3.6 in testing/:

   zsh-4.3.6,REV=2008.04.02-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz
   zsh-4.3.6,REV=2008.04.02-SunOS5.8-sparc-CSW.pkg.gz

Feedback as always welcome!

   -- Dago


From ihsan at blastwave.org  Wed Apr  2 20:10:42 2008
From: ihsan at blastwave.org (Ihsan Dogan)
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:10:42 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] Developers renamed
Message-ID: <47F3CC22.7060308@blastwave.org>

Hello,

The Developers list is now renamed to devel. Please you
devel at lists.blastwave.org to send mails to this list.




Ihsan

-- 
http://blog.dogan.ch/
http://ihsan.dogan.ch/


From ihsan at blastwave.org  Wed Apr  2 20:13:19 2008
From: ihsan at blastwave.org (Ihsan Dogan)
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:13:19 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] Developers renamed
Message-ID: <47F3CCBF.8040408@blastwave.org>

Hello,

The Developers list is now renamed to devel. Please you
devel at lists.blastwave.org to send mails to this list.




Ihsan

-- 
http://blog.dogan.ch/
http://ihsan.dogan.ch/


From phil at bolthole.com  Wed Apr  2 20:18:46 2008
From: phil at bolthole.com (Philip Brown)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:18:46 -0700
Subject: [csw-devel] Developers renamed
In-Reply-To: <47F3CCBF.8040408@blastwave.org>;
	from ihsan@blastwave.org on Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 08:13:19PM +0200
References: <47F3CCBF.8040408@blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <20080402111846.F56307@bolthole.com>

On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 08:13:19PM +0200, Ihsan Dogan wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> The Developers list is now renamed to devel.


Cool! now we match up with most of the other "distro" type of organizations
out there :-)



From cptsalek at gmail.com  Fri Apr  4 17:19:51 2008
From: cptsalek at gmail.com (Christian Walther)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 17:19:51 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] Some packages are missing the .pc-Files
Message-ID: <14989d6e0804040819n7821d4a4u564f0eb07fe91e29@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

a few days ago I tried to compile Firefox 3.0b5 on Solaris 10/Sparc.
To make messing with dependencies easier for me, I downloaded the
current firefox2 blastwave package and gave configure a try.
It fails while trying to locate some pkgconfig-files - or the files it
found belonged to older packages, e.g. from /usr/sfw. I adjusted
PKG_CONFIG_PATH so that pkgconfig would search in
/opt/csw/lib/pkgconfig, but still no luck.
It turned out that some Blastwave packages obviously are missing the .pc files.
I checked this for gtk+-2.0.pc and for dbus-glib. The problem is that
the configure script terminates on every missing .pc-file.

Are these files missing intentionally, or should I file a bug report
for both packages?

Here's pkginfo -l on both packages:

% pkginfo -l CSWdbusglib
   PKGINST:  CSWdbusglib
      NAME:  dbus_glib - DBus GLib Bindings
  CATEGORY:  application
      ARCH:  sparc
   VERSION:  0.73,REV=2007.06.10
   BASEDIR:  /
    VENDOR:  http://dbus.freedesktop.org/releases/dbus-glib/ packaged
for CSW by William Bonnet
    PSTAMP:  wbonnet at ra-20070610165915
  INSTDATE:  Apr 02 2008 10:54
   HOTLINE:  http://www.blastwave.org/bugtrack/
     EMAIL:  wbonnet at blastwave.org
    STATUS:  completely installed
     FILES:        5 installed pathnames
                   3 executables
                 422 blocks used (approx)

% pkginfo -l CSWgtk2
   PKGINST:  CSWgtk2
      NAME:  gtk2 - GTK+, The multiplatform X11 toolkit for GUI development
  CATEGORY:  application
      ARCH:  sparc
   VERSION:  2.12.3
   BASEDIR:  /
    VENDOR:  http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/gtk+ packaged for
CSW by Ken Mays
    PSTAMP:  ra20071208131356
  INSTDATE:  Apr 02 2008 09:15
   HOTLINE:  http://www.blastwave.org/bugtrak/
     EMAIL:  kenmays at blastwave.org
    STATUS:  completely installed
     FILES:      860 installed pathnames
                 189 shared pathnames
                 225 directories
                  72 executables
               53871 blocks used (approx)


Regards,
Christian Walther


From phil at bolthole.com  Fri Apr  4 18:45:28 2008
From: phil at bolthole.com (Philip Brown)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 09:45:28 -0700
Subject: [csw-devel] Some packages are missing the .pc-Files
In-Reply-To: <14989d6e0804040819n7821d4a4u564f0eb07fe91e29@mail.gmail.com>;
	from cptsalek@gmail.com on Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 05:19:51PM +0200
References: <14989d6e0804040819n7821d4a4u564f0eb07fe91e29@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080404094528.C85921@bolthole.com>

On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 05:19:51PM +0200, Christian Walther wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> a few days ago I tried to compile Firefox 3.0b5 on Solaris 10/Sparc.
> To make messing with dependencies easier for me, I downloaded the
> current firefox2 blastwave package and gave configure a try.
> It fails while trying to locate some pkgconfig-files - or the files it
> found belonged to older packages, e.g. from /usr/sfw. I adjusted
> PKG_CONFIG_PATH so that pkgconfig would search in
> /opt/csw/lib/pkgconfig, but still no luck.
> It turned out that some Blastwave packages obviously are missing the .pc files.
> I checked this for gtk+-2.0.pc and for dbus-glib. The problem is that
> the configure script terminates on every missing .pc-file.
> 
> Are these files missing intentionally, or should I file a bug report
> for both packages?



Perhaps you are having issues becuase you are trying to compile in a mixed
sfw/csw environment.

Try
rm -rf
on your build tree, then take /usr/sfw out of your $PATH, LD_PATH, and
anything else. Then try configuring again.



From jwheeler at blastwave.org  Sat Apr  5 02:48:01 2008
From: jwheeler at blastwave.org (Jonathan Wheeler)
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:48:01 +1300
Subject: [csw-devel] Some packages are missing the .pc-Files
In-Reply-To: <14989d6e0804040819n7821d4a4u564f0eb07fe91e29@mail.gmail.com>
References: <14989d6e0804040819n7821d4a4u564f0eb07fe91e29@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47F6CC41.4040005@blastwave.org>

Christian Walther wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> a few days ago I tried to compile Firefox 3.0b5 on Solaris 10/Sparc.

> It turned out that some Blastwave packages obviously are missing the .pc files.
> I checked this for gtk+-2.0.pc and for dbus-glib. The problem is that
> the configure script terminates on every missing .pc-file.
> 
> Are these files missing intentionally, or should I file a bug report
> for both packages?

To my understanding, there is a push to avoid retaining libtool files 
(.la) wherever possible. Obviously for existing packages that already 
have them, they can't simply be removed as other packages are already 
depending on them.

I'm not sure what the policy is on .pc files however. I think we're 
meant to retain them everywhere, as pkgconfig is less forgiven than 
libtool when it comes to missing .pc files - as you're discovering.

I know that wasn't quite the focus of your email, but it seems an 
appropriate time to clarify this point. Phil - what are we doing with 
.pc files on the packaging front?

Jonathan


From phil at bolthole.com  Mon Apr  7 18:22:45 2008
From: phil at bolthole.com (Philip Brown)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 09:22:45 -0700
Subject: [csw-devel] Some packages are missing the .pc-Files
In-Reply-To: <47F6CC41.4040005@blastwave.org>;
	from jwheeler@blastwave.org on Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 01:48:01PM
	+1300
References: <14989d6e0804040819n7821d4a4u564f0eb07fe91e29@mail.gmail.com>
	<47F6CC41.4040005@blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <20080407092245.F90697@bolthole.com>

On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 01:48:01PM +1300, Jonathan Wheeler wrote:
> To my understanding, there is a push to avoid retaining libtool files 
> (.la) wherever possible. Obviously for existing packages that already 
> have them, they can't simply be removed as other packages are already 
> depending on them.
> 
> I'm not sure what the policy is on .pc files however. I think we're 
> meant to retain them everywhere, as pkgconfig is less forgiven than 
> libtool when it comes to missing .pc files - as you're discovering.
> 
> I know that wasn't quite the focus of your email, but it seems an 
> appropriate time to clarify this point. Phil - what are we doing with 
> .pc files on the packaging front?

libtool files are being "removed with extreme prejudice" where practical,
becuase they break things,and generally cause a mess.

other config files, such as .pc files, are generally well-behaved. there is
no bounty out, for destruction of .pc files :-)


From cptsalek at gmail.com  Mon Apr  7 21:25:25 2008
From: cptsalek at gmail.com (Christian Walther)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 19:25:25 +0000
Subject: [csw-devel] Some packages are missing the .pc-Files
In-Reply-To: <20080407092245.F90697@bolthole.com>
References: <14989d6e0804040819n7821d4a4u564f0eb07fe91e29@mail.gmail.com>
	<47F6CC41.4040005@blastwave.org> <20080407092245.F90697@bolthole.com>
Message-ID: <14989d6e0804071225xd9299belee1390a16f2315ab@mail.gmail.com>

On 07/04/2008, Philip Brown <phil at bolthole.com> wrote:
[...]
>  other config files, such as .pc files, are generally well-behaved. there is
>  no bounty out, for destruction of .pc files :-)

But the .pc-files for the two packages I mentioned (gtk+ and
dbus-glib) are missing anyway. ;-)
So what to do? File a bugreport?


From phil at bolthole.com  Mon Apr  7 21:47:44 2008
From: phil at bolthole.com (Philip Brown)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:47:44 -0700
Subject: [csw-devel] Some packages are missing the .pc-Files
In-Reply-To: <14989d6e0804071225xd9299belee1390a16f2315ab@mail.gmail.com>;
	from cptsalek@gmail.com on Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 07:25:25PM +0000
References: <14989d6e0804040819n7821d4a4u564f0eb07fe91e29@mail.gmail.com>
	<47F6CC41.4040005@blastwave.org>
	<20080407092245.F90697@bolthole.com>
	<14989d6e0804071225xd9299belee1390a16f2315ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080407124744.R90697@bolthole.com>

On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 07:25:25PM +0000, Christian Walther wrote:
> On 07/04/2008, Philip Brown <phil at bolthole.com> wrote:
> [...]
> >  other config files, such as .pc files, are generally well-behaved. there is
> >  no bounty out, for destruction of .pc files :-)
> 
> But the .pc-files for the two packages I mentioned (gtk+ and
> dbus-glib) are missing anyway. ;-)
> So what to do? File a bugreport?

i would say,

#1 IF a usual cycle of "configure;make/install" on those softwares
   usually generates them, and
#2 IF it isnt actually possible to build stuff without them

then yes file a bug report.

However, I think that the software you were trying to build, CAN be built
without them, so you should probably discuss it more indepth with the
current firefox mainaintainer, as to just how he manages to built it
without those files.


If, however, #1 is NOT true, then I think it would be appropriate if you
did a little more research yourself into where these files usually come
from and why. 

Additionally, for #2: I think that you first need to see what happens when
you remove /usr/sfw stuff from your PATH, and/or actually rename the thing
temporarily.
If you are picking up conflicting .pc definitions from somewheres under
/usr/sfw, then it really isnt "our" fault to fix, eh?


From drmarkfvilla at san.rr.com  Tue Apr  8 09:15:25 2008
From: drmarkfvilla at san.rr.com (Mark F. Villa)
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:15:25 -0700
Subject: [csw-devel] MediaTomb packages in 'test' area
Message-ID: <47FB1B8D.8030303@san.rr.com>

I'm still having trouble with the maintainers list, but I've added SPARC 
and i386
'MediaTomb' packages to the test area:

/export/medusa/testing/mediatomb-0.11.0,REV=2008.03.23-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg
/export/medusa/testing/mediatomb-0.11.0,REV=2008.03.23-SunOS5.8-sparc-CSW.pkg

MediaTomb is a media server that may be used with rendering devices such 
as the
PS3. Please pass along any feedback.

Thank you.



From aubreylee at gmail.com  Thu Apr 10 11:05:42 2008
From: aubreylee at gmail.com (Aubrey Li)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:05:42 +0800
Subject: [csw-devel] mailing list issue
Message-ID: <6d6a94c50804100205t6d69c299xe7df83c8f262975e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi list,

I can received mail from maintainers at lists.blastwave.org,
But I can't reply, I was told I need approved.
Please help me out.

Thanks,
-Aubrey


From dam at blastwave.org  Thu Apr 10 11:11:29 2008
From: dam at blastwave.org (Dagobert Michelsen)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:11:29 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] mailing list issue
In-Reply-To: <6d6a94c50804100205t6d69c299xe7df83c8f262975e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6d6a94c50804100205t6d69c299xe7df83c8f262975e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <41596276-EC85-4C0A-8FC1-635B786E5AEF@blastwave.org>

Hi Aubrey,

Am 10.04.2008 um 11:05 schrieb Aubrey Li:
> I can received mail from maintainers at lists.blastwave.org,
> But I can't reply, I was told I need approved.

Please make sure that you post with the e-mail address
you have registered for the mailing list and are
receiving mail for. Most likely you are mailing from
another e-mail address or an alias.


Best regards

   -- Dagobert


From aubreylee at gmail.com  Thu Apr 10 11:17:55 2008
From: aubreylee at gmail.com (Aubrey Li)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:17:55 +0800
Subject: [csw-devel] mailing list issue
In-Reply-To: <41596276-EC85-4C0A-8FC1-635B786E5AEF@blastwave.org>
References: <6d6a94c50804100205t6d69c299xe7df83c8f262975e@mail.gmail.com>
	<41596276-EC85-4C0A-8FC1-635B786E5AEF@blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <6d6a94c50804100217m3e974aa0n91bd211be2304ca9@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Dagobert Michelsen <dam at blastwave.org> wrote:
> Hi Aubrey,
>
>  Am 10.04.2008 um 11:05 schrieb Aubrey Li:
>
>
> > I can received mail from maintainers at lists.blastwave.org,
> > But I can't reply, I was told I need approved.
> >
>
>  Please make sure that you post with the e-mail address
>  you have registered for the mailing list and are
>  receiving mail for. Most likely you are mailing from
>  another e-mail address or an alias.
>

Yeah, I know the point. I received mail from aubrey AT blastwave.org,
of course I set my .forward file on the mail server. so actually I received
mail from my real email address. that makes sense I can't reply.

So, my question is, how to send email through aubrey AT blastwave.org?

Thanks,
-Aubrey


From dam at blastwave.org  Thu Apr 10 11:30:45 2008
From: dam at blastwave.org (Dagobert Michelsen)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:30:45 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] mailing list issue
In-Reply-To: <6d6a94c50804100217m3e974aa0n91bd211be2304ca9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6d6a94c50804100205t6d69c299xe7df83c8f262975e@mail.gmail.com>
	<41596276-EC85-4C0A-8FC1-635B786E5AEF@blastwave.org>
	<6d6a94c50804100217m3e974aa0n91bd211be2304ca9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <089370F6-7E63-4DD3-AE02-2B3ECE6C3258@blastwave.org>

Hi Aubrey,

Am 10.04.2008 um 11:17 schrieb Aubrey Li:
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Dagobert Michelsen  
> <dam at blastwave.org> wrote:
>>  Am 10.04.2008 um 11:05 schrieb Aubrey Li:
>>> I can received mail from maintainers at lists.blastwave.org,
>>> But I can't reply, I was told I need approved.
>>
>>  Please make sure that you post with the e-mail address
>>  you have registered for the mailing list and are
>>  receiving mail for. Most likely you are mailing from
>>  another e-mail address or an alias.
>
> Yeah, I know the point. I received mail from aubrey AT blastwave.org,
> of course I set my .forward file on the mail server. so actually I  
> received
> mail from my real email address. that makes sense I can't reply.
>
> So, my question is, how to send email through aubrey AT blastwave.org?

Use the following settings:

   Server: enterprise.blastwave.org
     Port: 25
  Use SSL: Yes
Identify: By Password
Username: aubrey
Password: (Your Password)

Best regards

   -- Dago


From aubreylee at gmail.com  Thu Apr 10 11:45:53 2008
From: aubreylee at gmail.com (Aubrey Li)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:45:53 +0800
Subject: [csw-devel] mailing list issue
In-Reply-To: <089370F6-7E63-4DD3-AE02-2B3ECE6C3258@blastwave.org>
References: <6d6a94c50804100205t6d69c299xe7df83c8f262975e@mail.gmail.com>
	<41596276-EC85-4C0A-8FC1-635B786E5AEF@blastwave.org>
	<6d6a94c50804100217m3e974aa0n91bd211be2304ca9@mail.gmail.com>
	<089370F6-7E63-4DD3-AE02-2B3ECE6C3258@blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <6d6a94c50804100245g6c154509j4e8ded84dc080b7d@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Dagobert Michelsen <dam at blastwave.org> wrote:
> Hi Aubrey,
>
>  Am 10.04.2008 um 11:17 schrieb Aubrey Li:
>
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Dagobert Michelsen <dam at blastwave.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >  Am 10.04.2008 um 11:05 schrieb Aubrey Li:
> > >
> > > > I can received mail from maintainers at lists.blastwave.org,
> > > > But I can't reply, I was told I need approved.
> > > >
> > >
> > >  Please make sure that you post with the e-mail address
> > >  you have registered for the mailing list and are
> > >  receiving mail for. Most likely you are mailing from
> > >  another e-mail address or an alias.
> > >
> >
> > Yeah, I know the point. I received mail from aubrey AT blastwave.org,
> > of course I set my .forward file on the mail server. so actually I
> received
> > mail from my real email address. that makes sense I can't reply.
> >
> > So, my question is, how to send email through aubrey AT blastwave.org?
> >
>
>  Use the following settings:
>
>   Server: enterprise.blastwave.org
>     Port: 25
>   Use SSL: Yes
>  Identify: By Password
>  Username: aubrey
>  Password: (Your Password)
>
>  Best regards
>
>   -- Dago
>
Password? I don't remember I set any password for blastwave,
I was just asked to submit ssh key.

Thanks,
-Aubrey


From dam at blastwave.org  Thu Apr 10 11:57:29 2008
From: dam at blastwave.org (Dagobert Michelsen)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:57:29 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] mailing list issue
In-Reply-To: <6d6a94c50804100245g6c154509j4e8ded84dc080b7d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6d6a94c50804100205t6d69c299xe7df83c8f262975e@mail.gmail.com>
	<41596276-EC85-4C0A-8FC1-635B786E5AEF@blastwave.org>
	<6d6a94c50804100217m3e974aa0n91bd211be2304ca9@mail.gmail.com>
	<089370F6-7E63-4DD3-AE02-2B3ECE6C3258@blastwave.org>
	<6d6a94c50804100245g6c154509j4e8ded84dc080b7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <021EEF9F-54FB-426C-B114-9228699829EC@blastwave.org>

Hi Aubrey,

Am 10.04.2008 um 11:45 schrieb Aubrey Li:
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Dagobert Michelsen  
> <dam at blastwave.org> wrote:
>>  Use the following settings:
>>
>>   Server: enterprise.blastwave.org
>>     Port: 25
>>   Use SSL: Yes
>>  Identify: By Password
>>  Username: aubrey
>>  Password: (Your Password)
>
> Password? I don't remember I set any password for blastwave,
> I was just asked to submit ssh key.

Ihsan can help you on that. I cc'ed him for this posting.

Best regards

   -- Dago


From ihsan at blastwave.org  Thu Apr 10 12:28:47 2008
From: ihsan at blastwave.org (Ihsan Dogan)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:28:47 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] mailing list issue
In-Reply-To: <021EEF9F-54FB-426C-B114-9228699829EC@blastwave.org>
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Am 10.4.2008 11:57 Uhr, Dagobert Michelsen schrieb:

>> Password? I don't remember I set any password for blastwave,
>> I was just asked to submit ssh key.
> Ihsan can help you on that. I cc'ed him for this posting.

reply --> off list

-- 
ihsan at dogan.ch		http://blog.dogan.ch/


From ihsan at blastwave.org  Thu Apr 10 12:28:59 2008
From: ihsan at blastwave.org (Ihsan Dogan)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:28:59 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] mailing list issue
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Am 10.4.2008 11:57 Uhr, Dagobert Michelsen schrieb:

>> Password? I don't remember I set any password for blastwave,
>> I was just asked to submit ssh key.
> Ihsan can help you on that. I cc'ed him for this posting.

reply --> off list

-- 
ihsan at dogan.ch		http://blog.dogan.ch/


From phil at bolthole.com  Thu Apr 10 20:23:26 2008
From: phil at bolthole.com (Philip Brown)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:23:26 -0700
Subject: [csw-devel] mailing list issue
In-Reply-To: <6d6a94c50804100245g6c154509j4e8ded84dc080b7d@mail.gmail.com>;
	from aubreylee@gmail.com on Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 05:45:53PM +0800
References: <6d6a94c50804100205t6d69c299xe7df83c8f262975e@mail.gmail.com>
	<41596276-EC85-4C0A-8FC1-635B786E5AEF@blastwave.org>
	<6d6a94c50804100217m3e974aa0n91bd211be2304ca9@mail.gmail.com>
	<089370F6-7E63-4DD3-AE02-2B3ECE6C3258@blastwave.org>
	<6d6a94c50804100245g6c154509j4e8ded84dc080b7d@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 05:45:53PM +0800, Aubrey Li wrote:
> >  Use the following settings:
> >
> >   Server: enterprise.blastwave.org
> >     Port: 25
> >   Use SSL: Yes
> >  Identify: By Password
> >  Username: aubrey
> >  Password: (Your Password)
>...
> Password? I don't remember I set any password for blastwave,
> I was just asked to submit ssh key.

and/or, you can use pine from mail.blastwave.org (aka enterprise)
and that should work also.

but send email to yourself first, to see if the From: addr looks correct.


From trygvel at blastwave.org  Sat Apr 12 11:10:18 2008
From: trygvel at blastwave.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trygve_Laugst=F8l?=)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:10:18 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] mailing list issue
In-Reply-To: <089370F6-7E63-4DD3-AE02-2B3ECE6C3258@blastwave.org>
References: <6d6a94c50804100205t6d69c299xe7df83c8f262975e@mail.gmail.com>
	<41596276-EC85-4C0A-8FC1-635B786E5AEF@blastwave.org>
	<6d6a94c50804100217m3e974aa0n91bd211be2304ca9@mail.gmail.com>
	<089370F6-7E63-4DD3-AE02-2B3ECE6C3258@blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <48007C7A.8000400@blastwave.org>

Dagobert Michelsen wrote:
> Hi Aubrey,
> 
> Am 10.04.2008 um 11:17 schrieb Aubrey Li:
>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Dagobert Michelsen  
>> <dam at blastwave.org> wrote:
>>>  Am 10.04.2008 um 11:05 schrieb Aubrey Li:
>>>> I can received mail from maintainers at lists.blastwave.org,
>>>> But I can't reply, I was told I need approved.
>>>  Please make sure that you post with the e-mail address
>>>  you have registered for the mailing list and are
>>>  receiving mail for. Most likely you are mailing from
>>>  another e-mail address or an alias.
>> Yeah, I know the point. I received mail from aubrey AT blastwave.org,
>> of course I set my .forward file on the mail server. so actually I  
>> received
>> mail from my real email address. that makes sense I can't reply.
>>
>> So, my question is, how to send email through aubrey AT blastwave.org?
> 
> Use the following settings:
> 
>    Server: enterprise.blastwave.org
>      Port: 25
>   Use SSL: Yes
> Identify: By Password
> Username: aubrey
> Password: (Your Password)

Or just configure your email client to use aubrey at blastwave.org as 
sender. In thunderbird it is as easy as Account Settings -> Manage 
Identities.

Way easier..

--
Trygve



From dam at blastwave.org  Wed Apr 23 09:09:35 2008
From: dam at blastwave.org (Dagobert Michelsen)
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:09:35 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] Multi-ISA GAR
In-Reply-To: <480E4591.7020403@pleiades.fr.eu.org>
References: <20080319100038.C3150@bolthole.com>
	<33F3A8F3-6FA2-4E2E-91D2-6909A9902BCC@blastwave.org>
	<47E805E3.1060705@pleiades.fr.eu.org>
	<F5645699-8B12-4DD0-BA05-FD383BE95C47@blastwave.org>
	<47E822E4.6080608@pleiades.fr.eu.org>
	<EA0A9D34-86ED-4417-A6AE-9C2D905AE2B3@blastwave.org>
	<480E4591.7020403@pleiades.fr.eu.org>
Message-ID: <B0463A73-3153-4DDA-A4A1-98F57A602313@blastwave.org>

Hi Yann,

Am 22.04.2008 um 22:07 schrieb Yann Rouillard:
> Dagobert Michelsen wrote:
>> Am 24.03.2008 um 22:53 schrieb Yann Rouillard:
>>> Dagobert Michelsen a ?crit :
>>> Well, I definitely think there are other packages like openssl,  
>>> don't underestimate the imagination of developpers, althought it  
>>> shouldn't be the majority.
>> After some more thinking I think this would be a good idea:
>> - configure for each ISA to the same standard locations
>>   (e. g. bindir without $ISA suffix)
>> - install each ISA to a different, ISA-specific tree
>> - user-settable scripts allow merging of these trees
>>   verbatim, select specific binaries or move them to
>>   $ISA subdirs
>> I'll may have some time next week to prepare something.
>
> Have you had some time to work on it ?

Currently my time is limited, but I made an
intermediate commit
   http://svn.blastwave.org/trac/changeset/2075
for merge-support. Proper handling of isaexec is
still missing. The implementation follows what I
have outlined above. Installations still go to
DESTDIR, but the package is build from DESTBUILD.
The files are copied from DESTDIR to DESTBUILD during
the merge phase. There are default-scripts for
verbatim-copying and relocation to ISA subdirs
which are preselected depending on the number of
ISA build. The scripts can be easily replaced
by custom scripts. Relocation during copy is done
with regular expressions as parameters to 'pax'.

After isaexec is handled properly I'll write up
some documentation and try to get this to trunk/.


Feedback is very welcome!

Best regards

   -- Dago

From dam at blastwave.org  Tue Apr 29 09:22:12 2008
From: dam at blastwave.org (Dagobert Michelsen)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:22:12 +0200
Subject: [csw-devel] [csw-maintainers] Package classification and
	svn:ignores
In-Reply-To: <4707DDCF.7020008@blastwave.org>
References: <4707DDCF.7020008@blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <63FDC527-8CB4-4CE5-B64B-C570E6208997@blastwave.org>

Hi,

Am 06.10.2007 um 21:11 schrieb Trygve Laugst?l:
> 2) I'd like to add the svn:ignore Subversion property to all  
> directories
> hosting packages (IOW trunk/*/*) with the following value:
>
> work
> download
> cookies

I would like to pick up Trygves initiative again. Some time
ago I talked with Phil about including revision numbers in
the pkginfo in the form
   PSTAMP=GAR-r#######-YYYMMDDHHMMSS
When the PSTAMP is set the directory in inspected with an
"svn status". If there are uncommited changes, unadded files
or anything else that looks strange the PSTAMP is modified
     PSTAMP=GAR-r#######UNCOMMITTED-YYYMMDDHHMMSS
to make it clear that the package is not reproducible by
checking out the current sources. "Anything strange" also
means files which are not in the repository which should be
ignored. If there are more files to be produced they must
be added manually, but I think that is a good idea as it
shows the maintainer has actively decided not to include them.
Therefore this property should be set on all directories.

Ideas, as always, welcome.


Best regards

   -- Dago