From dam at opencsw.org Sat Oct 8 22:26:19 2016 From: dam at opencsw.org (Dagobert Michelsen) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2016 22:26:19 +0200 Subject: Packages for zstd Message-ID: Hi folks, for the brave I have packages up the most efficient compression available: ?zstd? http://buildfarm.opencsw.org/experimental.html#zstd If you haven?t heard from it you may want to read https://code.facebook.com/posts/1658392934479273/smaller-and-faster-data-compression-with-zstandard/ Best regards ? Dago -- "You don't become great by trying to be great, you become great by wanting to do something, and then doing it so hard that you become great in the process." - xkcd #896 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 841 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From opk at opencsw.org Sun Oct 9 08:59:54 2016 From: opk at opencsw.org (Oliver Kiddle) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 08:59:54 +0200 Subject: replacement getline function Message-ID: <60873.1475996394@hydra.kiddle.eu> A new nmh release is approaching and I'm getting fixes for a Solaris build into the upstream release. One of the issues is with the lack of a system getline function. I've got the autoconf/automake issues worked out for a replacement function but the only issue is to choose a replacement. There are two candidates to copy in the mgar repository: syslog_ng/trunk/files/0001-Add-substitute-for-getline-on-Solaris.patch reprepro/trunk/files/0004-implement-missing-getline-function.patch I included the first in a mail to the nmh list and there were comments made that it "whiffs a bit" and that we should have an attribution. nmh itself uses 3-clause BSD so the gnulib implementation wouldn't be a good choice. Any idea what the original source of those two replacements was? First was committed by Dagobert, second by Peter Felecan. Or any recommendations for a good implementation where origin is clear for the purposes of an attribution? Thanks Oliver From pfelecan at opencsw.org Sun Oct 9 14:43:52 2016 From: pfelecan at opencsw.org (Peter FELECAN) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 14:43:52 +0200 Subject: replacement getline function In-Reply-To: <60873.1475996394@hydra.kiddle.eu> (Oliver Kiddle's message of "Sun, 09 Oct 2016 08:59:54 +0200") References: <60873.1475996394@hydra.kiddle.eu> Message-ID: Oliver Kiddle writes: > reprepro/trunk/files/0004-implement-missing-getline-function.patch > > I included the first in a mail to the nmh list and there were comments > made that it "whiffs a bit" and that we should have an attribution. The second one whiffs also ? If so, suggest amelioration path. > Any idea what the original source of those two replacements was? First > was committed by Dagobert, second by Peter Felecan. My implementation is based on the manual page on systems where it exist, such as GNU/Linux. Consequently, if you need an attribution I can give it to you. -- Peter From opk at opencsw.org Mon Oct 10 11:03:35 2016 From: opk at opencsw.org (Oliver Kiddle) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 11:03:35 +0200 Subject: replacement getline function In-Reply-To: References: <60873.1475996394@hydra.kiddle.eu> Message-ID: <71435.1476090215@hydra.kiddle.eu> Peter FELECAN wrote: > > reprepro/trunk/files/0004-implement-missing-getline-function.patch > > > > I included the first in a mail to the nmh list and there were comments > > made that it "whiffs a bit" and that we should have an attribution. > > The second one whiffs also ? If so, suggest amelioration path. No comments were made on the second. It looks perfectly fine to me. And as the person who made those comments[1] hasn't been forthcoming with their own implementation, I'm inclined to commit the second (i.e. yours) and he's welcome to change it later. > My implementation is based on the manual page on systems where it exist, > such as GNU/Linux. Consequently, if you need an attribution I can give > it to you. I had assumed that you had probably cribbed it from elsewhere but if it is your work, that's easier. I do need an attribution in some form. Either a suitable comment that can be placed before it in the code or if you want, I could commit getline with git commit --author= naming you, treating it as just a regular code contribution to nmh. Thanks Oliver [1] http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/nmh-workers/2016-09/msg00177.html From cgrzemba at opencsw.org Mon Oct 10 11:05:28 2016 From: cgrzemba at opencsw.org (cgrzemba at opencsw.org) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 11:05:28 +0200 Subject: PYPI_MIRROR Message-ID: Hi, related to https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi/issues/438/backwards-compatible-un-hashed-package I guess we should use for PYPI_MIRROR pypi.io: --- gar.conf.mk (revision 25941) +++ gar.conf.mk (working copy) @@ -935,7 +935,7 @@ ?# Python Package Index ?PYPI_PROJECT ?= $(NAME) ?PYPI_SUBDIR = $(shell echo $(PYPI_PROJECT) | cut -c 1) -PYPI_MIRROR = http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/$(PYPI_SUBDIR)/$(PYPI_PROJECT)/ +PYPI_MIRROR = http://pypi.io/packages/source/$(PYPI_SUBDIR)/$(PYPI_PROJECT)/ ? ?# Package dir ?GARPACKAGE = $(shell basename $(CURDIR)) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dago > I guess we should use for PYPI_MIRROR pypi.io: > > --- gar.conf.mk (revision 25941) > +++ gar.conf.mk (working copy) > @@ -935,7 +935,7 @@ > # Python Package Index > PYPI_PROJECT ?= $(NAME) > PYPI_SUBDIR = $(shell echo $(PYPI_PROJECT) | cut -c 1) > -PYPI_MIRROR = http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/$(PYPI_SUBDIR)/$(PYPI_PROJECT)/ > +PYPI_MIRROR = http://pypi.io/packages/source/$(PYPI_SUBDIR)/$(PYPI_PROJECT)/ > > # Package dir > GARPACKAGE = $(shell basename $(CURDIR)) > > -- "You don't become great by trying to be great, you become great by wanting to do something, and then doing it so hard that you become great in the process." - xkcd #896 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 841 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From pfelecan at opencsw.org Mon Oct 10 12:01:09 2016 From: pfelecan at opencsw.org (Peter FELECAN) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 12:01:09 +0200 Subject: replacement getline function In-Reply-To: <71435.1476090215@hydra.kiddle.eu> (Oliver Kiddle's message of "Mon, 10 Oct 2016 11:03:35 +0200") References: <60873.1475996394@hydra.kiddle.eu> <71435.1476090215@hydra.kiddle.eu> Message-ID: Oliver Kiddle writes: > Peter FELECAN wrote: >> > reprepro/trunk/files/0004-implement-missing-getline-function.patch >> > >> > I included the first in a mail to the nmh list and there were comments >> > made that it "whiffs a bit" and that we should have an attribution. >> >> The second one whiffs also ? If so, suggest amelioration path. > > No comments were made on the second. It looks perfectly fine to me. > And as the person who made those comments[1] hasn't been forthcoming > with their own implementation, I'm inclined to commit the second > (i.e. yours) and he's welcome to change it later. Note that my implementation is quite simple minded. If you look to some other implementations, e.g. Illumos/OpenSolaris, they take cara of a lot more corner case but are writtent under licenses which are possibly incomfortable for your project. >> My implementation is based on the manual page on systems where it exist, >> such as GNU/Linux. Consequently, if you need an attribution I can give >> it to you. > > I had assumed that you had probably cribbed it from elsewhere but if it > is your work, that's easier. I do need an attribution in some form. > Either a suitable comment that can be placed before it in the code or if > you want, I could commit getline with git commit --author= naming you, > treating it as just a regular code contribution to nmh. It is my lazy, i.e. necessary and sufficient for reprepro, work. Probably the git commit is the simplest path. However, if it's cleaner from your standpoint, I can provide you the files, header and compilation unit, with a comment and a public domain mention. -- Peter From cgrzemba at opencsw.org Mon Oct 10 15:22:07 2016 From: cgrzemba at opencsw.org (cgrzemba at opencsw.org) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 15:22:07 +0200 Subject: wiki is gone? Message-ID: something brocken? 503 Service Unavailable Failed to resolve the name of server wiki.opencsw.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bonivart at opencsw.org Mon Oct 10 15:55:40 2016 From: bonivart at opencsw.org (Peter Bonivart) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 15:55:40 +0200 Subject: wiki is gone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 3:22 PM, cgrzemba at opencsw.org wrote: > something brocken? > > 503 Service Unavailable > > Failed to resolve the name of server wiki.opencsw.org There seems to be no A record for that, however this works: http://opencsw.wikidot.com/ From ihsan at opencsw.org Mon Oct 10 19:15:12 2016 From: ihsan at opencsw.org (=?UTF-8?B?xLBoc2FuwqBEb8SfYW4=?=) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 19:15:12 +0200 Subject: wiki is gone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Am 10.10.2016 um 15:55 schrieb Peter Bonivart: >> 503 Service Unavailable >> >> Failed to resolve the name of server wiki.opencsw.org > > There seems to be no A record for that, however this works: > http://opencsw.wikidot.com/ wiki.opencsw.org is a CNAME to www.wikidot.org. The problem is, that www.wikidot.org doesn't resolv any more. I've changed the the CNAME now opencsw.wikidot.org. Hope that helps. Ihsan -- ihsan at dogan.ch http://blog.dogan.ch/ From ihsan at opencsw.org Mon Oct 10 20:56:35 2016 From: ihsan at opencsw.org (=?UTF-8?B?xLBoc2FuwqBEb8SfYW4=?=) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 20:56:35 +0200 Subject: wiki is gone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5dc6d5e9-4419-0041-c34b-2e7090909e99@opencsw.org> Am 10.10.2016 um 19:15 schrieb ?hsan Do?an: >>> 503 Service Unavailable >>> >>> Failed to resolve the name of server wiki.opencsw.org >> >> There seems to be no A record for that, however this works: >> http://opencsw.wikidot.com/ > > wiki.opencsw.org is a CNAME to www.wikidot.org. The problem is, that > www.wikidot.org doesn't resolv any more. > > I've changed the the CNAME now opencsw.wikidot.org. Hope that helps. Looks like, changing the DNS entry fixed it. -Ihsan -- ihsan at dogan.ch http://blog.dogan.ch/ From bonivart at opencsw.org Mon Oct 10 21:02:28 2016 From: bonivart at opencsw.org (Peter Bonivart) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 21:02:28 +0200 Subject: wiki is gone? In-Reply-To: <5dc6d5e9-4419-0041-c34b-2e7090909e99@opencsw.org> References: <5dc6d5e9-4419-0041-c34b-2e7090909e99@opencsw.org> Message-ID: On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 8:56 PM, ?hsan Do?an wrote: > Am 10.10.2016 um 19:15 schrieb ?hsan Do?an: > >>>> 503 Service Unavailable >>>> >>>> Failed to resolve the name of server wiki.opencsw.org >>> >>> There seems to be no A record for that, however this works: >>> http://opencsw.wikidot.com/ >> >> wiki.opencsw.org is a CNAME to www.wikidot.org. The problem is, that >> www.wikidot.org doesn't resolv any more. >> >> I've changed the the CNAME now opencsw.wikidot.org. Hope that helps. > > Looks like, changing the DNS entry fixed it. Looks like the main web site is now a .com so opencsw.wikidot.com also works. From cgrzemba at opencsw.org Tue Oct 11 16:26:59 2016 From: cgrzemba at opencsw.org (cgrzemba at opencsw.org) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 16:26:59 +0200 Subject: PYPI_MIRROR In-Reply-To: <2B115930-3C3D-40D5-A38A-B83B057C5AEF@opencsw.org> References: <2B115930-3C3D-40D5-A38A-B83B057C5AEF@opencsw.org> Message-ID: I would commit my mercurial repo stuff too (HG_REPO).? On 11.10.16 09:03, Dagobert Michelsen wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Carsten, > > > > > > > > Am 10.10.2016 um 11:05 schrieb cgrzemba at opencsw.org: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > related to https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi/issues/438/backwards-compatible-un-hashed-package > > > > > > > Hahaha, what a thread! :-) Sure, please go ahead. > > > > Best regards > > ? Dago > > > > > > I guess we should use for PYPI_MIRROR pypi.io(http://pypi.io): > > > > --- gar.conf.mk (revision 25941) > > +++ gar.conf.mk (working copy) > > @@ -935,7 +935,7 @@ > > ?# Python Package Index > > ?PYPI_PROJECT ?= $(NAME) > > ?PYPI_SUBDIR = $(shell echo $(PYPI_PROJECT) | cut -c 1) > > -PYPI_MIRROR = http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/$(PYPI_SUBDIR)/$(PYPI_PROJECT)/ > > +PYPI_MIRROR = http://pypi.io/packages/source/$(PYPI_SUBDIR)/$(PYPI_PROJECT)/ > > ? > > ?# Package dir > > ?GARPACKAGE = $(shell basename $(CURDIR)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > "You don't become great by trying to be great, you become great by wanting to do something, > and then doing it so hard that you become great in the process." - xkcd #896 > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dago >> >>> I guess we should use for PYPI_MIRROR pypi.io : >>> >>> --- gar.conf.mk (revision 25941) >>> +++ gar.conf.mk (working copy) >>> @@ -935,7 +935,7 @@ >>> # Python Package Index >>> PYPI_PROJECT ?= $(NAME) >>> PYPI_SUBDIR = $(shell echo $(PYPI_PROJECT) | cut -c 1) >>> -PYPI_MIRROR = http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/$(PYPI_SUBDIR)/$(PYPI_PROJECT)/ >>> +PYPI_MIRROR = http://pypi.io/packages/source/$(PYPI_SUBDIR)/$(PYPI_PROJECT)/ >>> >>> # Package dir >>> GARPACKAGE = $(shell basename $(CURDIR)) >>> >>> >> >> -- >> "You don't become great by trying to be great, you become great by wanting to do something, >> and then doing it so hard that you become great in the process." - xkcd #896 >> -- "You don't become great by trying to be great, you become great by wanting to do something, and then doing it so hard that you become great in the process." - xkcd #896 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I don?t seem to have access to www (if I should have, just drop me a note.) I removed the snippet, it looks like it was done by incection of Trygve account: For now I also demoted all ?old? maintainer accounts in Mantis. Best regards ? Dago -- "You don't become great by trying to be great, you become great by wanting to do something, and then doing it so hard that you become great in the process." - xkcd #896 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PastedGraphic-1.tiff Type: image/tiff Size: 600734 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 841 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From ihsan at opencsw.org Sun Oct 16 19:41:17 2016 From: ihsan at opencsw.org (=?UTF-8?B?xLBoc2FuwqBEb8SfYW4=?=) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 19:41:17 +0200 Subject: Infected security page? In-Reply-To: <5A75D079-228F-4C00-ABBA-67ED0504A9F0@opencsw.org> References: <5A75D079-228F-4C00-ABBA-67ED0504A9F0@opencsw.org> Message-ID: <57f26ba7-46d5-cd7e-4efb-86674f9770ad@opencsw.org> Am 16.10.2016 um 13:34 schrieb Dagobert Michelsen: >> one user on IRC reported that there is some javascript being injected from our security page (https://www.opencsw.org/security/) >> >> The javascript reads: >> >> jolietta online casino >> >> It?s visible in source code, but not displayed with javascript enabled. >> >> Can someone please take a look? I don?t seem to have access to www (if I should have, just drop me a note.) > > I removed the snippet, it looks like it was done by incection of Trygve account: > > For now I also demoted all ?old? maintainer accounts in Mantis. Dago & Juraj: Thanks for spotting and fixing the issue. Probably we should update once our Wordpress installation. It's already running for years without maintenance. Ihsan -- ihsan at dogan.ch http://blog.dogan.ch/ From dam at opencsw.org Mon Oct 17 09:26:37 2016 From: dam at opencsw.org (Dagobert Michelsen) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 09:26:37 +0200 Subject: Rebooting the farm Message-ID: Hi folks, I need to reboot the farm, it will be available again later today. Sorry for the inconvenience ? Dago -- "You don't become great by trying to be great, you become great by wanting to do something, and then doing it so hard that you become great in the process." - xkcd #896 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My experience is that *after* succesfully lobbying to get a patch merged I get criticized by armchair developers. -- Peter From laurent at opencsw.org Mon Oct 31 16:54:22 2016 From: laurent at opencsw.org (Laurent Blume) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 16:54:22 +0100 Subject: Conduct unbecoming of a hacker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57f04c02-0412-b3e4-2392-427067b654b8@opencsw.org> Le 2016/10/31 11:02 +0100, Maciej (Matchek) Blizi?ski a ?crit: > Hello maintainers! > > Long time no see... Here's an article I've just read. I think that we're > doing pretty well in this regard! Still, it's good to be actively > conscious of the issue. > > http://sealedabstract.com/rants/conduct-unbecoming-of-a-hacker/ Looks like somebody hasn't quite grasped yet that the Internet of today is used mostly by non-IT consumers, unlike their beloved Internet of the 90's, which was mostly reserved to tech people (the rest was parked in a special area called AOL). Is he going to whine about it until he runs out of breath? Is he also going to whine that those tech types of the 90's built an easy-to-use Internet that eventually allowed any non-IT consumer to connect to it like it were an AOL browser? Free email addresses for everybody doesn't seem like such a smart move now, hmmm? :) Laurent From ihsan at opencsw.org Mon Oct 31 20:37:00 2016 From: ihsan at opencsw.org (=?UTF-8?B?xLBoc2FuwqBEb8SfYW4=?=) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 20:37:00 +0100 Subject: Conduct unbecoming of a hacker In-Reply-To: <57f04c02-0412-b3e4-2392-427067b654b8@opencsw.org> References: <57f04c02-0412-b3e4-2392-427067b654b8@opencsw.org> Message-ID: Good evening, Am 31.10.2016 um 16:54 schrieb Laurent Blume: >> Long time no see... Here's an article I've just read. I think that we're >> doing pretty well in this regard! Still, it's good to be actively >> conscious of the issue. >> >> http://sealedabstract.com/rants/conduct-unbecoming-of-a-hacker/ > > > Looks like somebody hasn't quite grasped yet that the Internet of today > is used mostly by non-IT consumers, unlike their beloved Internet of the > 90's, which was mostly reserved to tech people (the rest was parked in a > special area called AOL). > Is he going to whine about it until he runs out of breath? Is he also > going to whine that those tech types of the 90's built an easy-to-use > Internet that eventually allowed any non-IT consumer to connect to it > like it were an AOL browser? > > Free email addresses for everybody doesn't seem like such a smart move > now, hmmm? :) Laurent, I can't agree more. :-) -Ihsan -- ihsan at dogan.ch http://blog.dogan.ch/