From ml at eroteme.org Wed Aug 1 13:41:56 2007 From: ml at eroteme.org (S. Hakim Hamdani [ML]) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 13:41:56 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] New packages request: dvd::rip and avidemux2 Message-ID: <20070801134156.000025d3@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> Hi there, was wondering if anyone had ever attempted ports of these two nifty pieces of software: http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/ http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/ Looking through current packages, I think most of the dependencies are filled. Many thanks, should someone decide to take it upon themselves to package these! Best regards, Hakim -- S. Hakim Hamdani [ML] / Eroteme.org From ml at eroteme.org Wed Aug 1 15:23:30 2007 From: ml at eroteme.org (S. Hakim Hamdani [ML]) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 15:23:30 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] CUPS error: unsupported format 'application/postscript'! Message-ID: <20070801152330.00006f7e@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> Hello, [hhamdani at asagao-jkk ~]$ pkg-get -c | grep cups cups 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME cupsclient 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME cupsd 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME cupsdev 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME cupsdoc 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME libcups 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME libgnomecups 0.2.2 SAME Whenever I try to print I get errors along the lines of: "Error: Unsupported format 'application/postscript'!" I have edited my /opt/csw/etc/cups/mime.convs file and uncommented the line for the raw filter and also the one further up with 'pstoraster' in it (which incidentally does not exist on my system). Have restarted cupsd, but the error persists. Can anyone advise on what to do? I've looked far and wide on the net and the only thing I found was related to the mime.convs file. I'd very much like to be able to print. Printer is a HP LaserJet 5SiNX by the way, configuration for the printer is copied from one of my linux hosts, from which printing works fine. Thanks for any help, Hakim -- S. Hakim Hamdani [ML] / Eroteme.org From brian.gupta at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 15:29:19 2007 From: brian.gupta at gmail.com (Brian Gupta) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:29:19 -0400 Subject: [csw-users] scsh. Any interest? Message-ID: <5b5090780708010629t4d8844f5p84d4217479562543@mail.gmail.com> Does anyone have interest in this other than myself? -Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.blastwave.org/pipermail/users/attachments/20070801/f97b741c/attachment.html From ml at eroteme.org Wed Aug 1 16:14:22 2007 From: ml at eroteme.org (S. Hakim Hamdani [ML]) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:14:22 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Sudden pkg-get issues... no upgrades possible... Message-ID: <20070801161422.00006812@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> Hi all, just updated my local blastwave archive via rsync, then updated the catalog file by doing pkg-get -U. All good. So I wanted to go about my usual updating... But when doing pkg-get -u I get this: [root at asagao-jkk 5.11]$ pkg-get -u ... ... orbit2 is up to date newer_rev: fell off end of compare routine! Dont know how to compare ascii strings ',rev=e' '' WARNING: remote version older than current version. Not installing remote package of openssl_utils (remote=0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e, local=0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22) newer_rev: fell off end of compare routine! Dont know how to compare ascii strings ',rev=e' '' WARNING: remote version older than current version. Not installing remote package of openssl_rt (remote=0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e, local=0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22) newer_rev: fell off end of compare routine! Dont know how to compare ascii strings ',rev=e' '' WARNING: remote version older than current version. Not installing remote package of openssl_devel (remote=0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e, local=0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22) newer_rev: fell off end of compare routine! Dont know how to compare ascii strings ',rev=e' '' WARNING: remote version older than current version. Not installing remote package of openssl (remote=0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e, local=0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22) openldap_rt is up to date ... ... fortune is up to date No existing install of CSWforemost found. Installing... Trying file:///export/home/hhamdani/pub/blw//i386/5.11/foremost-1.4,REV=2007.07.23-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz The following package is currently installed: CSWforemost/opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[2]: 2551 Segmentation Fault(coredump) Alas: [root at asagao-jkk pkg-get]$ which foremost /opt/csw/bin/foremost [root at asagao-jkk pkg-get]$ pkg-get -c | grep foremost foremost 1.4,REV=2007.07.23 Also: [root at asagao-jkk ~]$ pkg-get -c | grep ssl openssl 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e openssl_devel 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e openssl_rt 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e openssl_utils 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e And: [hhamdani at asagao-jkk /]$ cat /var/pkg-get/catalog-export | grep ssl openssl 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e CSWossl openssl-0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e-SunOS5.8-all-CSW.pkg.gz ffd3173278df2ce8d8cdaa5c45c7ced5 openssl_devel 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e CSWossldevel openssl_devel-0.9.8,REV=20 07.07.22,rev=e-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz 87b5c4e1dd392d301e783a15736eb20c openssl_rt 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e CSWosslrt openssl_rt-0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22, rev=e-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz 62912c639b3b30b25b52f8591cf8a930 openssl_utils 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e CSWosslutils openssl_utils-0.9.8,REV=20 07.07.22,rev=e-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz 83889ad8215c88e79384f824d5a8f5f6 [hhamdani at asagao-jkk /]$ cat /var/pkg-get/catalog-export | grep foremost foremost 1.4,REV=2007.07.23 CSWforemost foremost-1.4,REV=2007.07.23-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz 14d6b6664f6c554cf30246e8b3b6fa0d And lastly: [hhamdani at asagao-jkk ~]$ ls -l pub/blw/i386/5.11/ | grep ssl -rw-r--r-- 1 hhamdani staff 3182 Jul 31 17:08 openssl-0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e-SunOS5.8-all-CSW.pkg.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 hhamdani staff 3434014 Jul 31 17:09 openssl_devel-0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 hhamdani staff 3708099 Jul 31 17:09 openssl_rt-0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 hhamdani staff 277766 Jul 31 17:09 openssl_utils-0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz [hhamdani at asagao-jkk ~]$ ls -l pub/blw/i386/5.11/ | grep foremost -rw-r--r-- 1 hhamdani staff 39323 Jul 23 16:37 foremost-1.4,REV=2007.07.23-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz So, two issues really; pkg-get doesn't seem to handle the new openssl packages properly because of a naming issue. foremost is installed, but pkg-get seems to have forgotten about that. Can anyone advise on what to do? Thanks, Hakim -- S. Hakim Hamdani [ML] / Eroteme.org From ml at eroteme.org Wed Aug 1 16:40:58 2007 From: ml at eroteme.org (S. Hakim Hamdani [ML]) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:40:58 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] sudden pkg-get issues... upgrades not possible... Message-ID: <20070801164058.0000372f@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> Well, here's an update: By doing pkg-get -uS I was able to get it to install the newer openssl packages. However it still coredumps on foremost. I went into /var/sadm/pkg/ to check the contents of the CSWforemost directory, and well, all looks fine, except that the file install/preremove was a binary file and different from the one in save/pspool/CSWforemost/install/preremove. Replacing the former with the latter made no difference, it still coredumps. I then moved CSWforemost to oldCSWforemost and was at least able to do a successful pkg-get -u. Still, even when trying to manually do a pkgrm CSWforemost (or now: pkgrm oldCSWforemost), pkgrm coredumps. I wasn't able to coax any information from pkg-get with the -v option either, am at a bit of a loss as to how to fix this issue... Any tips appreciated. Thanks, Hakim -- S. Hakim Hamdani [ML] / Eroteme.org From ml at eroteme.org Wed Aug 1 16:54:38 2007 From: ml at eroteme.org (S. Hakim Hamdani [ML]) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:54:38 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] sudden pkg-get issues... updates not possible... Message-ID: <20070801165438.00001151@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> Hello again, managed to solve the issue after some more digging: For some reason both the pkginfo and the preremove script in /var/sadm/pkg/oldCSWforemost were corrupted, I installed foremost again, copied the files over from /var/sadm/pkg/CSWforemost, removed both CSWforemost and oldCSWforemost with pkgrm and then reinstalled with pkg-get -i foremost. All works fine now. Many thanks in any case for looking. Hakim -- S. Hakim Hamdani [ML] / Eroteme.org From james at blastwave.org Wed Aug 1 15:36:38 2007 From: james at blastwave.org (James Lee) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:36:38 GMT Subject: [csw-users] CUPS error: unsupported format 'application/postscript'! In-Reply-To: <20070801152330.00006f7e@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> References: <20070801152330.00006f7e@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> Message-ID: <20070801.13363800.1378073977@gyor.oxdrove.co.uk> On 01/08/07, 14:23:30, "S." Hakim Hamdani "[ML]" wrote regarding [csw-users] CUPS error: unsupported format 'application/postscript'!: > [hhamdani at asagao-jkk ~]$ pkg-get -c | grep cups > cups 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME > cupsclient 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME > cupsd 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME > cupsdev 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME > cupsdoc 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME > libcups 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME > libgnomecups 0.2.2 SAME > Whenever I try to print I get errors along the lines of: > "Error: Unsupported format 'application/postscript'!" $ pkg-get -c $(pkg-get -D | grep -i cups | awk '{print $1}') It might be espgs you need. James. From ml at eroteme.org Mon Aug 6 16:28:19 2007 From: ml at eroteme.org (S. Hakim Hamdani [ML]) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:28:19 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] CUPS error: unsupported format 'application/postscript'! Message-ID: <20070806162819.00006818@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> James, > $ pkg-get -c $(pkg-get -D | grep -i cups | awk '{print $1}') > It might be espgs you need. [root at asagao-jkk ~]$ pkg-get -c $(pkg-get -D | grep -i cups | awk '{print $1}') # (From site file:///export/home/hhamdani/pub/blw/ ) software localrev remoterev cups 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME cupsclient 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME cupsd 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME cupsdev 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME cupsdoc 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME espgs [Not installed] 8.15.4 gtklp [Not installed] 1.2.4 libcups 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME libgnomecups 0.2.2 SAME xpp 1.5,REV=2006.02.28 SAME So I went ahead and installed espgs... how come that's not a dependency, btw? Changed papersize to A4, and trying to print some stuff, still same error. Rebooted the machine, relogged into the CUPS web interface, trying to print test page, now I have a "quota limit reached" error... Google'd a bit, set allowed users to my own login and root. Test page from CUPS web interface: works spadmin test page : doesn't work, typical OpenOffice 2 printing : doesn't work, also typical lp from shell, txt file : works lp from shell, pdf file : works Firefox, web page printing : works Excellent, many thanks! I don't mind not being able to print from OOo, I always export as pdf and just lp it from shell. Cheers, Hakim -- S. Hakim Hamdani [ML] / Eroteme.org From james at blastwave.org Mon Aug 6 17:18:20 2007 From: james at blastwave.org (James Lee) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:18:20 GMT Subject: [csw-users] CUPS error: unsupported format 'application/postscript'! In-Reply-To: <20070806162819.00006818@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> References: <20070806162819.00006818@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> Message-ID: <20070806.15182000.2551227663@gyor.oxdrove.co.uk> On 06/08/07, 15:28:19, "S." Hakim Hamdani "[ML]" wrote regarding [csw-users] CUPS error: unsupported format 'application/postscript'!: > So I went ahead and installed espgs... how come that's not a > dependency, btw? Because you can use CUPS with a Postscript printer? > Test page from CUPS web interface: works > spadmin test page : doesn't work, typical > OpenOffice 2 printing : doesn't work, also typical It just calls lp. Look at the "command" setting of spadmin, so it should work. > lp from shell, txt file : works > lp from shell, pdf file : works > Firefox, web page printing : works > Excellent, many thanks! > I don't mind not being able to print from OOo, I always export as pdf "Print to file" and lp the Postscript. James. From trygvis at inamo.no Tue Aug 7 20:17:36 2007 From: trygvis at inamo.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trygve_Laugst=F8l?=) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:17:36 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Openssl package split In-Reply-To: <46A8DB50.1030504@jouy.inra.fr> References: <46A78861.8000609@jouy.inra.fr> <46A86EC7.6040504@inamo.no> <46A8DB50.1030504@jouy.inra.fr> Message-ID: <46B8B740.1090609@inamo.no> Yann Rouillard wrote: > Trygve Laugst?l a ?crit : >> Yann Rouillard wrote: >>> A new openssl package will soon be available from the mirror sites. >>> No new openssl version, but some modifications in the packaging layout, >>> the openssl has been split into the following three packages: >>> >>> openssl_rt - provides runtime libraries >>> openssl_devel - provides headers and static libraries >>> openssl_utils - provides openssl binaries and scripts (openssl, >>> c_rehash, CA.pl, ...) >> I find calling packages "foo_rt" confusing. As a _user_ of blastwave I >> would like to get "OpenSSL" and thus I should pkg-get install the >> "openssl" package. I've seen this pattern a few places and is still >> confused. > > You can still "pkg-get install openssl", it will install the 3 packages. > > I will not change that package layout now but what would you propose > instead ? (Sorry for not replying earlier, it slipped my mind) I know that this is not the normal blastwave layout, but something like this: openssl: binaries and utilities that I as a user would use. libopenssl: the runtime libraries. openssl would depend on this. Other packages should depend on this if they need openssl. openssl-dev: headers and static libraries. Other packages would need this to compile against openssl. This is similar to how Debian does: http://packages.debian.org/stable/oldlibs/libssl0.9.7 http://packages.debian.org/stable/libdevel/libssl-dev http://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/openssl (Please don't take that I'm comparing this to a Linux distro this the wrong way, but I do feel that they have gotten a lot of things right) -- Trygve From trygvis at inamo.no Tue Aug 7 20:22:55 2007 From: trygvis at inamo.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trygve_Laugst=F8l?=) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:22:55 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> Message-ID: <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> Trygve Laugst?l wrote: > Hi > > I've packaged ncmpc[1] and I'd like to submit it to Blastwave. I tried > to sign up as a maintainer but was rejected but I still hope that some > existing maintainer would like to commit it on my behalf. I will try to > maintain it in the future by sending in patches. > > I doubt the package is in perfect shape for blastwave so any comments on > the details on how to package stuff would be appreciated. > > [1]: http://hem.bredband.net/kaw/ncmpc/ No takers? No feed back or comments? I've packaged mpd [1] and mailman [2] as well, but I guess they're as interesting as ncmpc... Is blastwave a regular open source project or just some people pretending to be open? [1]: the server that ncmpc connects to [2]: The software behind this very mailing list: http://list.org -- Trygve From dclarke at blastwave.org Tue Aug 7 21:05:06 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 15:05:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> Message-ID: <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > Trygve Laugst?l wrote: >> Hi >> >> I've packaged ncmpc[1] and I'd like to submit it to Blastwave. I tried >> to sign up as a maintainer but was rejected but I still hope that some >> existing maintainer would like to commit it on my behalf. I will try to >> maintain it in the future by sending in patches. >> >> I doubt the package is in perfect shape for blastwave so any comments on >> the details on how to package stuff would be appreciated. >> >> [1]: http://hem.bredband.net/kaw/ncmpc/ > > No takers? No feed back or comments? I've packaged mpd [1] and mailman > [2] as well, but I guess they're as interesting as ncmpc... > > Is blastwave a regular open source project or just some people > pretending to be open? hey . .slow down there ... we are working like mad here. you didn't get a response right away possibly foir many reasons not the least of which is that its summer and I am up to my ears in many things as are other people ... and people may not have even looked there yet ! Dennis Clarke From trygvis at inamo.no Wed Aug 8 08:44:48 2007 From: trygvis at inamo.no (=?UTF-8?B?VHJ5Z3ZlIExhdWdzdMO4bA==?=) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 08:44:48 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> Dennis Clarke wrote: >> Trygve Laugst?l wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> I've packaged ncmpc[1] and I'd like to submit it to Blastwave. I tried >>> to sign up as a maintainer but was rejected but I still hope that some >>> existing maintainer would like to commit it on my behalf. I will try to >>> maintain it in the future by sending in patches. >>> >>> I doubt the package is in perfect shape for blastwave so any comments on >>> the details on how to package stuff would be appreciated. >>> >>> [1]: http://hem.bredband.net/kaw/ncmpc/ >> No takers? No feed back or comments? I've packaged mpd [1] and mailman >> [2] as well, but I guess they're as interesting as ncmpc... >> >> Is blastwave a regular open source project or just some people >> pretending to be open? > > hey . .slow down there ... we are working like mad here. Ok, sorry. I was (or am) a bit annoyed that I didn't get a single response, even if it was to say that "we're busy". > you didn't get a response right away possibly foir many reasons > > not the least of which is that its summer and I am up to my ears in many > things as are other people ... > > and > > people may not have even looked there yet ! How long should I expect to wait? Honestly, I know it is summer and all but you can't expect me to stay around for ever either. The most important thing to me is that I have somewhere to put my packages so I know that my work won't be lost. I wouldn't mind it if someone would commit my packages for me, I'm not demanding to become a maintainer straight away. -- Trygve From khfp.blastwave0704 at gmx.de Wed Aug 8 09:58:05 2007 From: khfp.blastwave0704 at gmx.de (Klaus Heinz) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:58:05 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> Message-ID: <20070808075805.65250@gmx.net> "Trygve Laugst?l" wrote: > The most important thing to me is that I have somewhere to put my > packages so I know that my work won't be lost. I wouldn't mind it if > someone would commit my packages for me, I'm not demanding to become a > maintainer straight away. The single comment I got back in April indicated that it is not possible to submit packages _without_ the willingness to maintain them. Klaus -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser From a.cervellin at acm.org Wed Aug 8 10:01:52 2007 From: a.cervellin at acm.org (Alessio) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 10:01:52 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> Message-ID: <46B97870.8060103@acm.org> Trygve Laugst?l wrote: > Ok, sorry. I was (or am) a bit annoyed that I didn't get a single > response, even if it was to say that "we're busy". you didn't know, but your mail has been also forwarded to the private of the maintainers mailing list to discuss about that... so you didn't get ignored > How long should I expect to wait? well, the 1st prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is patience, because it's an hard work, without any retribution and with many users which keep asking many things... > you can't expect me to stay around for ever either. well, the 2nd prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is the willingness to stay around for as long time as possibile, since there are already too many abandoned packages... > The most important thing to me is that I have somewhere to put my > packages so I know that my work won't be lost. I wouldn't mind it if > someone would commit my packages for me, I'm not demanding to become a > maintainer straight away. nobody will commit your packages, because this is not how blastwave packages submission process works: 1) you have to signup as maintainer, possibly for more than 1 package. Remember: a maintainer is someone who has a lot of spare time, is willing to maintain his packages for more than 1 year, and daily uses them for personal or professional purposes 2) you have to wait for a response 3) you'll have to signup again if nobody answers you (and there are many reasons this could happen) 4) if someone will answer you, then you'll have to prove you are really willing to be a maintainer (but only Phil knows how) and possibly you've to provide a "bombastic" email address 5) you'll get access to the blastwave build machines: only there you can build your packages, following exactly the guidelines [1] 6) once a package has bee built, you have to submit it to the other maintainers for testing and QA 7) finally, the package will be submitted in the unstable catalog 8) after N months, if the package does not receive any major bug report on mantis, it will be automatically submitted to the stable catalog Love it or hate it, this is blastwave. -- [1] http://www.blastwave.org/standards/ From trygvis at inamo.no Wed Aug 8 11:57:16 2007 From: trygvis at inamo.no (=?UTF-8?B?VHJ5Z3ZlIExhdWdzdMO4bA==?=) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:57:16 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <46B97870.8060103@acm.org> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> <46B97870.8060103@acm.org> Message-ID: <46B9937C.7030408@inamo.no> Alessio wrote: > Trygve Laugst?l wrote: > >> Ok, sorry. I was (or am) a bit annoyed that I didn't get a single >> response, even if it was to say that "we're busy". > > you didn't know, but your mail has been also forwarded to the private of > the maintainers mailing list to discuss about that... so you didn't get > ignored > >> How long should I expect to wait? > > well, the 1st prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is patience, > because it's an hard work, without any retribution and with many users > which keep asking many things... I am well aware of the requirements and I am ready to commit time to maintain the packages. I already dedicate lot of time to open source project and know how stuff work. >> you can't expect me to stay around for ever either. > > well, the 2nd prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is the > willingness to stay around for as long time as possibile, since there > are already too many abandoned packages... I meant before getting any response. >> The most important thing to me is that I have somewhere to put my >> packages so I know that my work won't be lost. I wouldn't mind it if >> someone would commit my packages for me, I'm not demanding to become a >> maintainer straight away. > > nobody will commit your packages, because this is not how blastwave > packages submission process works: Perfectly fine, it was just a suggestion from my side. > 1) you have to signup as maintainer, possibly for more than 1 package. > Remember: a maintainer is someone who has a lot of spare time, is > willing to maintain his packages for more than 1 year, and daily uses > them for personal or professional purposes > 2) you have to wait for a response > 3) you'll have > to signup again if nobody answers you (and there are many reasons this > could happen) > 4) if someone will answer you, then you'll have to prove you are really > willing to be a maintainer (but only Phil knows how) and possibly you've > to provide a "bombastic" email address I've done this part but it stopped after Phil didn't want to accept any of the means of identification [1] I could provide and didn't come back to me when I asked for alternate means. > 5) you'll get access to the blastwave build machines: only there you can > build your packages, following exactly the guidelines [1] > 6) once a package has bee built, you have to submit it to the other > maintainers for testing and QA > 7) finally, the package will be submitted in the unstable catalog > 8) after N months, if the package does not receive any major bug report > on mantis, it will be automatically submitted to the stable catalog This seem like a pretty normal operating procedure to me and I am ready to commit to them (as I've said before). > Love it or hate it, this is blastwave. Just give me the chance to love it :) I just want to contribute back some work after all I've gotten from blastwave. [1]: faxed in signed copy of passport (which was good enough for Apache), an email from my apache.org acount. -- Trygve From dclarke at blastwave.org Wed Aug 8 19:03:16 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:03:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <46B97870.8060103@acm.org> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> <46B97870.8060103@acm.org> Message-ID: <53364.72.39.216.186.1186592596.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > Trygve Laugst??l wrote: > >> Ok, sorry. I was (or am) a bit annoyed that I didn't get a single >> response, even if it was to say that "we're busy". > > you didn't know, but your mail has been also forwarded to the private of > the maintainers mailing list to discuss about that... so you didn't get > ignored > >> How long should I expect to wait? > > well, the 1st prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is patience, > because it's an hard work, without any retribution and with many users > which keep asking many things... > >> you can't expect me to stay around for ever either. > > well, the 2nd prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is the > willingness to stay around for as long time as possibile, since there > are already too many abandoned packages... > >> The most important thing to me is that I have somewhere to put my >> packages so I know that my work won't be lost. I wouldn't mind it if >> someone would commit my packages for me, I'm not demanding to become a >> maintainer straight away. > > nobody will commit your packages, because this is not how blastwave > packages submission process works: > 1) you have to signup as maintainer, possibly for more than 1 package. > Remember: a maintainer is someone who has a lot of spare time, is > willing to maintain his packages for more than 1 year, and daily uses > them for personal or professional purposes > 2) you have to wait for a response > 3) you'll have > to signup again if nobody answers you (and there are many reasons this > could happen) > 4) if someone will answer you, then you'll have to prove you are really > willing to be a maintainer (but only Phil knows how) and possibly you've > to provide a "bombastic" email address > 5) you'll get access to the blastwave build machines: only there you can > build your packages, following exactly the guidelines [1] > 6) once a package has bee built, you have to submit it to the other > maintainers for testing and QA > 7) finally, the package will be submitted in the unstable catalog > 8) after N months, if the package does not receive any major bug report > on mantis, it will be automatically submitted to the stable catalog > > Love it or hate it, this is blastwave. Please allow me to add one last point. 9) things have worked like this year after year after year and it may be conservative, somewhat self critical and overly careful * but it works * We have been discussing the issues behind closed doors for some time now and we will probably come up with a way to accomodate people better. If we can. Dennis Clarke From trygvis at inamo.no Wed Aug 8 19:48:33 2007 From: trygvis at inamo.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trygve_Laugst=F8l?=) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:48:33 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <53364.72.39.216.186.1186592596.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> <46B97870.8060103@acm.org> <53364.72.39.216.186.1186592596.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <46BA01F1.80106@inamo.no> Dennis Clarke wrote: >> Trygve Laugst??l wrote: >> >>> Ok, sorry. I was (or am) a bit annoyed that I didn't get a single >>> response, even if it was to say that "we're busy". >> you didn't know, but your mail has been also forwarded to the private of >> the maintainers mailing list to discuss about that... so you didn't get >> ignored >> >>> How long should I expect to wait? >> well, the 1st prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is patience, >> because it's an hard work, without any retribution and with many users >> which keep asking many things... >> >>> you can't expect me to stay around for ever either. >> well, the 2nd prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is the >> willingness to stay around for as long time as possibile, since there >> are already too many abandoned packages... >> >>> The most important thing to me is that I have somewhere to put my >>> packages so I know that my work won't be lost. I wouldn't mind it if >>> someone would commit my packages for me, I'm not demanding to become a >>> maintainer straight away. >> nobody will commit your packages, because this is not how blastwave >> packages submission process works: >> 1) you have to signup as maintainer, possibly for more than 1 package. >> Remember: a maintainer is someone who has a lot of spare time, is >> willing to maintain his packages for more than 1 year, and daily uses >> them for personal or professional purposes >> 2) you have to wait for a response >> 3) you'll have >> to signup again if nobody answers you (and there are many reasons this >> could happen) >> 4) if someone will answer you, then you'll have to prove you are really >> willing to be a maintainer (but only Phil knows how) and possibly you've >> to provide a "bombastic" email address >> 5) you'll get access to the blastwave build machines: only there you can >> build your packages, following exactly the guidelines [1] >> 6) once a package has bee built, you have to submit it to the other >> maintainers for testing and QA >> 7) finally, the package will be submitted in the unstable catalog >> 8) after N months, if the package does not receive any major bug report >> on mantis, it will be automatically submitted to the stable catalog >> >> Love it or hate it, this is blastwave. > > Please allow me to add one last point. > > 9) things have worked like this year after year after year and it may > be conservative, somewhat self critical and overly careful > > * but it works * > > We have been discussing the issues behind closed doors for some time now and > we will probably come up with a way to accomodate people better. If we can. Just by doing more stuff in public (like Sun is trying to) would be super great for people trying to get involved. Sometimes people would like to contribute more than actual packages, like documentation, plain testing or hardware. Currently that is something that is hard at blastwave as "getting in touch" seem hard (it might not be the case, but it is not as inviting as other organizations). -- Trygve From trygvis at inamo.no Wed Aug 8 22:47:48 2007 From: trygvis at inamo.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trygve_Laugst=F8l?=) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:47:48 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <46BA01F1.80106@inamo.no> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> <46B97870.8060103@acm.org> <53364.72.39.216.186.1186592596.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46BA01F1.80106@inamo.no> Message-ID: <46BA2BF4.902@inamo.no> Trygve Laugst?l wrote: > Dennis Clarke wrote: >>> Trygve Laugst??l wrote: >>> >>>> Ok, sorry. I was (or am) a bit annoyed that I didn't get a single >>>> response, even if it was to say that "we're busy". >>> you didn't know, but your mail has been also forwarded to the private of >>> the maintainers mailing list to discuss about that... so you didn't get >>> ignored >>> >>>> How long should I expect to wait? >>> well, the 1st prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is patience, >>> because it's an hard work, without any retribution and with many users >>> which keep asking many things... >>> >>>> you can't expect me to stay around for ever either. >>> well, the 2nd prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is the >>> willingness to stay around for as long time as possibile, since there >>> are already too many abandoned packages... >>> >>>> The most important thing to me is that I have somewhere to put my >>>> packages so I know that my work won't be lost. I wouldn't mind it if >>>> someone would commit my packages for me, I'm not demanding to become a >>>> maintainer straight away. >>> nobody will commit your packages, because this is not how blastwave >>> packages submission process works: >>> 1) you have to signup as maintainer, possibly for more than 1 package. >>> Remember: a maintainer is someone who has a lot of spare time, is >>> willing to maintain his packages for more than 1 year, and daily uses >>> them for personal or professional purposes >>> 2) you have to wait for a response >>> 3) you'll have >>> to signup again if nobody answers you (and there are many reasons this >>> could happen) >>> 4) if someone will answer you, then you'll have to prove you are really >>> willing to be a maintainer (but only Phil knows how) and possibly you've >>> to provide a "bombastic" email address >>> 5) you'll get access to the blastwave build machines: only there you can >>> build your packages, following exactly the guidelines [1] >>> 6) once a package has bee built, you have to submit it to the other >>> maintainers for testing and QA >>> 7) finally, the package will be submitted in the unstable catalog >>> 8) after N months, if the package does not receive any major bug report >>> on mantis, it will be automatically submitted to the stable catalog >>> >>> Love it or hate it, this is blastwave. >> Please allow me to add one last point. >> >> 9) things have worked like this year after year after year and it may >> be conservative, somewhat self critical and overly careful >> >> * but it works * >> >> We have been discussing the issues behind closed doors for some time now and >> we will probably come up with a way to accomodate people better. If we can. > > Just by doing more stuff in public (like Sun is trying to) would be > super great for people trying to get involved. Sometimes people would > like to contribute more than actual packages, like documentation, plain > testing or hardware. Currently that is something that is hard at > blastwave as "getting in touch" seem hard (it might not be the case, but > it is not as inviting as other organizations). That said, there are of course many reasons to have private lists, but it is a matter of which list the message should go to by default. -- Trygve From dclarke at blastwave.org Wed Aug 8 23:00:51 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 17:00:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <46BA2BF4.902@inamo.no> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> <46B97870.8060103@acm.org> <53364.72.39.216.186.1186592596.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46BA01F1.80106@inamo.no> <46BA2BF4.902@inamo.no> Message-ID: <53570.72.39.216.186.1186606851.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > Trygve Laugst?l wrote: >> Dennis Clarke wrote: >>>> Trygve Laugst??l wrote: >>>> >>>> Love it or hate it, this is blastwave. >>> Please allow me to add one last point. >>> >>> 9) things have worked like this year after year after year and it may >>> be conservative, somewhat self critical and overly careful >>> >>> * but it works * >>> >>> We have been discussing the issues behind closed doors for some time now >>> and >>> we will probably come up with a way to accomodate people better. If we >>> can. >> >> Just by doing more stuff in public (like Sun is trying to) would be >> super great for people trying to get involved. Sometimes people would >> like to contribute more than actual packages, like documentation, plain >> testing or hardware. Currently that is something that is hard at >> blastwave as "getting in touch" seem hard (it might not be the case, but >> it is not as inviting as other organizations). Well, you are quite right of course. Right now we are having a fascinating discussion on optimization and on creating binaries for specific processor targets. I have built the new gzip package ( which I'll finish shortly ) as well as GCC 4.2.1 ( which is running its testsuite ) and there are benefits to tweaking the xarch flags for pentium_pro as well as pentium_pro+mmx or whatever. There is a vast arrya of talent in here and this is one discussion where I wish we moved it out to the users list. Everyone would benefit from it I think. > That said, there are of course many reasons to have private lists, but > it is a matter of which list the message should go to by default. I guess no one wants to see the package maintainers yakking about how to tweak out the last bit of performance or about why 64-bit can sometimes be evil. That sort of thing ? :-) Dennis From trygvis at inamo.no Wed Aug 8 23:23:27 2007 From: trygvis at inamo.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trygve_Laugst=F8l?=) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:23:27 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <53570.72.39.216.186.1186606851.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> <46B97870.8060103@acm.org> <53364.72.39.216.186.1186592596.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46BA01F1.80106@inamo.no> <46BA2BF4.902@inamo.no> <53570.72.39.216.186.1186606851.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <46BA344F.8090606@inamo.no> Dennis Clarke wrote: >> Trygve Laugst?l wrote: >>> Dennis Clarke wrote: >>>>> Trygve Laugst??l wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> Love it or hate it, this is blastwave. >>>> Please allow me to add one last point. >>>> >>>> 9) things have worked like this year after year after year and it may >>>> be conservative, somewhat self critical and overly careful >>>> >>>> * but it works * >>>> >>>> We have been discussing the issues behind closed doors for some time now >>>> and >>>> we will probably come up with a way to accomodate people better. If we >>>> can. >>> Just by doing more stuff in public (like Sun is trying to) would be >>> super great for people trying to get involved. Sometimes people would >>> like to contribute more than actual packages, like documentation, plain >>> testing or hardware. Currently that is something that is hard at >>> blastwave as "getting in touch" seem hard (it might not be the case, but >>> it is not as inviting as other organizations). > > Well, you are quite right of course. > > Right now we are having a fascinating discussion on optimization and on > creating binaries for specific processor targets. I have built the new gzip > package ( which I'll finish shortly ) as well as GCC 4.2.1 ( which is > running its testsuite ) and there are benefits to tweaking the xarch flags > for pentium_pro as well as pentium_pro+mmx or whatever. There is a vast > arrya of talent in here and this is one discussion where I wish we moved it > out to the users list. Everyone would benefit from it I think. > >> That said, there are of course many reasons to have private lists, but >> it is a matter of which list the message should go to by default. > > I guess no one wants to see the package maintainers yakking about how to > tweak out the last bit of performance or about why 64-bit can sometimes be > evil. That sort of thing ? :-) No, I was more thinking of sensitive stuff like security issues and discussing potential new maintainers. I would _love_ to see the discussion you talked about, even if it just to be able to learn, both about how to build stuff properly and how to build stuff for blastwave. I'd like to see that kind of discussion on a "dev" list while this user list is kept as-is with the goal of serving the ordinary users and plain consumers of Blastwave. -- Trygve From a.cervellin at acm.org Thu Aug 9 09:48:46 2007 From: a.cervellin at acm.org (Alessio) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:48:46 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <46B9937C.7030408@inamo.no> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> <46B97870.8060103@acm.org> <46B9937C.7030408@inamo.no> Message-ID: <46BAC6DE.20007@acm.org> Trygve Laugst?l wrote: >> 4) if someone will answer you, then you'll have to prove you are really >> willing to be a maintainer (but only Phil knows how) and possibly you've >> to provide a "bombastic" email address > > I've done this part but it stopped after Phil didn't want to accept any > of the means of identification [1] I could provide and didn't come back > to me when I asked for alternate means. [...] > [1]: faxed in signed copy of passport (which was good enough for > Apache), an email from my apache.org acount. Faxes are too easy to fake, I think this is not a good a way to identificate a maintainer. When I told a maintainer must provide a "bombastic" email, I meant that usually a maintainer should provide as his ID an email address that can guarantee as much as possible his identification... examples of "good" email addresses could be: - an email address of some big corporation - an email address of some big organization (where the person has an active and well-documented role since X years) - an email address belonging to a domain running some site since X years, and where the "whois" details are verifiable and belonging to the maintainer - an email address belonging to debian.org (because they already have their own personal identification processes) - an email address published on academic works or similar stuff ...and so on. So, if you (not Trygve) signup as maintainer giving as reference myname at gmail.com or myname at foo.com, you'll be rejected. Given the nature of the blastwave project, you can easily understand why we care so much about the identification of a maintainer... Unfortunately, this selection method excludes people who are self-employed. Anyway this is our current admission protocol.... again, love it or hate it. BUT we understand this is not so good - and these are also undocumented rules - SO if you have any suggestions, then they are really welcome. As final note, you've to be sympathetic about us: blastwave is a quite small organization, especially as number of maintainers if compared to other OSS projects, so there are issues that we face rare times and so we are not enough organized to resolve them (one of these issues is to let people join in a deeper way the blastwave community, as maintainer or not) From mats.larsson at ericsson.com Thu Aug 9 12:10:39 2007 From: mats.larsson at ericsson.com (Mats Larsson) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:10:39 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] lists.blastwave.org down ? Message-ID: <46BAE81F.9070106@ericsson.com> I can't access lists.blastwave.org. Is it down? /MOL From mats.larsson at ericsson.com Thu Aug 9 12:12:40 2007 From: mats.larsson at ericsson.com (Mats Larsson) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:12:40 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] lists.blastwave.org down ? In-Reply-To: <46BAE81F.9070106@ericsson.com> References: <46BAE81F.9070106@ericsson.com> Message-ID: <46BAE898.70807@ericsson.com> On 2007-08-09 12:10, Mats Larsson wrote: > I can't access lists.blastwave.org. Is it down? No it isn't. My fault, misconfigured proxy settings. Sorry. From mats.larsson at ericsson.com Thu Aug 9 12:16:00 2007 From: mats.larsson at ericsson.com (Mats Larsson) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:16:00 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Your message to users awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46BAE960.6040101@ericsson.com> Who's moderating the users list at lists.blastwave.org? I've been waiting 2 days for a post to be approved (or rejected). BR MOL On 2007-08-07 15:35, users-bounces at lists.blastwave.org wrote: > Your mail to 'users' with the subject > > SeaMonkey problem > > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > > The reason it is being held: > > Message body is too big: 247513 bytes with a limit of 100 KB > > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive > notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel > this posting, please visit the following URL: > > https://lists.blastwave.org/mailman/confirm/users/a19f5b85b648bfa94e9ffcc0f4f7b4cdfa707f42 > From mats.larsson at ericsson.com Thu Aug 9 12:44:00 2007 From: mats.larsson at ericsson.com (Mats Larsson) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:44:00 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] XEmacs maintainer ? Message-ID: <46BAEFF0.2060903@ericsson.com> Hi, Is Darin Perusich still the maintainer of the CSWxemacs and CSWxemacspkgs pkgs? BR MOL From dclarke at blastwave.org Thu Aug 9 14:35:40 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 08:35:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] Your message to users awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <46BAE960.6040101@ericsson.com> References: <46BAE960.6040101@ericsson.com> Message-ID: <53786.72.39.216.186.1186662940.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > Who's moderating the users list at lists.blastwave.org? I've been > waiting 2 days for a post to be approved (or rejected). I moderate the list daily and I see it every day. A message with 247,000+ bytes of stuff in it will be summarily rejected and deleted without warning. That is just plain bad manners on a mail list server. Imagine! A 200K email message with what in it ? I am sure you could post a small summary of whatever it is and then we can discuss the issue but do NOT just outright post anything that large. Now that I have given it some thought ... I will tweak that list down to 64K message size maximum. Dennis ps: this is before my first coffee ! From dclarke at blastwave.org Thu Aug 9 14:48:54 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 08:48:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave users maillist description changed Message-ID: <53806.72.39.216.186.1186663734.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Please see top of : https://lists.blastwave.org/mailman/listinfo/users Where it now says : A General discussion maillist about the software from blastwave, the people and processes within the blastwave project and the users that actually use the software. This is a Solaris and OpenSolaris community based email list and thus Linux questions *may* be off topic. Everything else is fair game. Welcome to the Blastwave users list! The idea here is that we can and probably should have open discussions about things like code optimization as well as compiler options and things like that. These sort of things may benefit everyone involved and it would be hubris to think that we know all that we need to know. - Dennis Clarke ps : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris From mats.larsson at ericsson.com Thu Aug 9 14:51:54 2007 From: mats.larsson at ericsson.com (Mats Larsson) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:51:54 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Your message to users awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <53786.72.39.216.186.1186662940.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <46BAE960.6040101@ericsson.com> <53786.72.39.216.186.1186662940.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <46BB0DEA.8040402@ericsson.com> On 2007-08-09 14:35, Dennis Clarke wrote: > That is just plain bad manners on a mail list server. Imagine! A 200K email > message with what in it ? I am sure you could post a small summary of > whatever it is and then we can discuss the issue but do NOT just outright > post anything that large. Ok I'll accept that. But at the moment the easiest way for me was to provide a PNG screenshot of what the problem looked like. Then I wouldn't have to write down a quite long error msg that was presented in a non-copyable text window. But anyway you all have my apologies. /MOL From mats.larsson at ericsson.com Thu Aug 9 14:59:11 2007 From: mats.larsson at ericsson.com (Mats Larsson) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:59:11 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] SeaMonkey 1.1.3 (and 1.1.4) problem Message-ID: <46BB0F9F.90008@ericsson.com> Menu bar is empty (no buttons/menues) and error msgs like this one in the bottom area of the main window: Both version 1.1.3 from unstable and 1.1.4 from testing behave like this on Solaris 9 (no problem on Solaris 8, Solaris 10 not tested). Version 1.1.2 doesn't have the problem. Does anyone else see this? BR MOL From a.cervellin at acm.org Thu Aug 9 15:01:49 2007 From: a.cervellin at acm.org (Alessio) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:01:49 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] SeaMonkey 1.1.3 (and 1.1.4) problem In-Reply-To: <46BB0F9F.90008@ericsson.com> References: <46BB0F9F.90008@ericsson.com> Message-ID: <46BB103D.8010202@acm.org> Mats Larsson wrote: > Menu bar is empty (no buttons/menues) and error msgs like this one in the bottom area of the main window: > > > > Both version 1.1.3 from unstable and 1.1.4 from testing behave like this on Solaris 9 (no problem on Solaris 8, Solaris 10 not tested). > > Version 1.1.2 doesn't have the problem. > > Does anyone else see this? i'm sorry but i don't have a solaris 9 box to test it on, on solaris 10 works fine, on solaris 8 too... by my side, nothing changed in the build process between 1.1.2 & 1.1.4 From dclarke at blastwave.org Thu Aug 9 15:39:33 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:39:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] Your message to users awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <46BB0DEA.8040402@ericsson.com> References: <46BAE960.6040101@ericsson.com> <53786.72.39.216.186.1186662940.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46BB0DEA.8040402@ericsson.com> Message-ID: <53877.72.39.216.186.1186666773.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > On 2007-08-09 14:35, Dennis Clarke wrote: >> That is just plain bad manners on a mail list server. Imagine! A 200K >> email >> message with what in it ? I am sure you could post a small summary of >> whatever it is and then we can discuss the issue but do NOT just outright >> post anything that large. > > Ok I'll accept that. But at the moment the easiest way for me was to > provide a PNG screenshot of what the problem looked like. Then I > wouldn't have to write down a quite long error msg that was presented in > a non-copyable text window. > > But anyway you all have my apologies. You're quite okay and I see now ( after my first coffee ) that you were trying to post binary data to the mail list. Yeah .. that will get nailed by the filters pretty quick. Can you post that to a website somewhere ? Dennis Clarke From brandorr at opensolaris.org Thu Aug 9 16:12:22 2007 From: brandorr at opensolaris.org (Brandorr) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 10:12:22 -0400 Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave users maillist description changed In-Reply-To: <53806.72.39.216.186.1186663734.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <53806.72.39.216.186.1186663734.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <5b5090780708090712t38e1fd9er4492f6cf831cdbcc@mail.gmail.com> On 8/9/07, Dennis Clarke wrote: > > > Please see top of : > > https://lists.blastwave.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > Where it now says : > > A General discussion maillist about the software from blastwave, the > people and processes within the blastwave project and the users that > actually use the software. This is a Solaris and OpenSolaris community > based email list and thus Linux questions *may* be off topic. > Everything > else is fair game. Welcome to the Blastwave users list! > > > The idea here is that we can and probably should have open discussions > about > things like code optimization as well as compiler options and things like > that. These sort of things may benefit everyone involved and it would be > hubris to think that we know all that we need to know. > > - > Dennis Clarke Well said!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.blastwave.org/pipermail/users/attachments/20070809/bd578684/attachment.html From anil.verve at gmail.com Thu Aug 9 16:27:05 2007 From: anil.verve at gmail.com (Anil Gulecha) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 19:57:05 +0530 Subject: [csw-users] Your message to users awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <46BB0DEA.8040402@ericsson.com> References: <46BAE960.6040101@ericsson.com> <53786.72.39.216.186.1186662940.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46BB0DEA.8040402@ericsson.com> Message-ID: <148d59250708090727r1930900bx1ac5415faef4105d@mail.gmail.com> On 8/9/07, Mats Larsson wrote: > On 2007-08-09 14:35, Dennis Clarke wrote: > > That is just plain bad manners on a mail list server. Imagine! A 200K email > > message with what in it ? I am sure you could post a small summary of > > whatever it is and then we can discuss the issue but do NOT just outright > > post anything that large. > > Ok I'll accept that. But at the moment the easiest way for me was to > provide a PNG screenshot of what the problem looked like. Then I > wouldn't have to write down a quite long error msg that was presented in > a non-copyable text window. > bayimg.org and imageshack.us provide very easy one-click imagehosting. Anil From listen at alexander.skwar.name Fri Aug 10 09:05:14 2007 From: listen at alexander.skwar.name (Alexander Skwar) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:05:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create Message-ID: Hallo! I'm trying to install something using pkg-get on Solaris 10 machine. This fails: root at svnds01 ~ # pkg-get -i md5sum WARNING: gpg not found /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[25]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create root at svnds01 ~ # pkginfo -l CSWpkgget PKGINST: CSWpkgget NAME: pkg_get - CSW version of automated package download tool CATEGORY: system ARCH: all VERSION: 3.7.2 BASEDIR: /opt/csw VENDOR: http://www.blastwave.org/pkg-get.html packaged for CSW by Philip Brown DESC: A convenient way to automate package installs PSTAMP: speedy20060119102530 INSTDATE: Jul 19 2007 12:33 HOTLINE: http://www.blastwave.org/bugtrack/ EMAIL: phil at blastwave.org STATUS: completely installed FILES: 11 installed pathnames 6 shared pathnames 7 directories 4 executables 121 blocks used (approx) root at svnds01 ~ # cat /etc/release Solaris 10 6/06 s10s_u2wos_09a SPARC Copyright 2006 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Use is subject to license terms. Assembled 09 June 2006 Preinstall P/N 259-4616-01 Built 13 August 2006 root at svnds01 ~ # uname -a SunOS svnds01 5.10 Generic_118833-24 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-V245 I used to be able to install programs with pkg-get on this machine. I logged in to this machine via ssh. I logged in as a normal user. Then I did a "su -" to become root. As root, I ran "pkg-get -i md5sum". Why do I get this error message and what do I need to do to fix this? Thanks a lot, Alexander From listen at alexander.skwar.name Fri Aug 10 09:09:49 2007 From: listen at alexander.skwar.name (Alexander Skwar) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:09:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [csw-users] SeaMonkey 1.1.3 (and 1.1.4) problem References: <46BB0F9F.90008@ericsson.com> Message-ID: Mats Larsson ericsson.com> writes: > > Menu bar is empty (no buttons/menues) and error msgs like this one in the bottom area of the main window: > > That's often an indication of a misbehaving theme or extension. Could you maybe try to start SM with a blank profile? To do so, run seamonkey -profilemanager Then create a new profile. I'd think that the message goes away. After that, try to delete the XUL.mfasl (or whatever it's named) file in the old profile. Cheers, Alexander From listen at alexander.skwar.name Fri Aug 10 09:07:31 2007 From: listen at alexander.skwar.name (Alexander Skwar) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:07:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [csw-users] Your message to users awaits moderator approval References: <46BAE960.6040101@ericsson.com> <53786.72.39.216.186.1186662940.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46BB0DEA.8040402@ericsson.com> Message-ID: Mats Larsson ericsson.com> writes: > Ok I'll accept that. But at the moment the easiest way for me was to > provide a PNG screenshot of what the problem looked like. Fine. There are, however, services like http://imageshack.us/, where you can upload images. I think it would be best, if you'd do this and then simply post a link to the image. At least that's what I do usually on other mailing list or in Usenet. Cheers, Alexander From asmoore at edge.net Fri Aug 10 12:37:54 2007 From: asmoore at edge.net (Alex Moore) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 05:37:54 -0500 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070810053754.00007fff@mcsrv5> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:05:14 +0000 (UTC) Alexander Skwar wrote: > root at svnds01 ~ # pkg-get -i md5sum > WARNING: gpg not found > /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create > /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[25]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create > See the 'HOW TO ..' link at www.blastwave.org. Alex -- From listen at alexander.skwar.name Fri Aug 10 13:52:39 2007 From: listen at alexander.skwar.name (Alexander Skwar) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:52:39 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create References: <20070810053754.00007fff@mcsrv5> Message-ID: <10073823.ZDPLZba9TO@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> Alex Moore wrote: > On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:05:14 +0000 (UTC) > Alexander Skwar wrote: > >> root at svnds01 ~ # pkg-get -i md5sum >> WARNING: gpg not found >> /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create >> /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[25]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create >> > > See the 'HOW TO ..' link at www.blastwave.org. I must be blind :) Could you please tell me which section I should read? Thanks a lot, Alexander Skwar From rene at terdmonk.com Fri Aug 10 15:11:04 2007 From: rene at terdmonk.com (Rene Cunningham) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:11:04 +1000 Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE Message-ID: <20070810131103.GE5064@terdmonk.com> Hi All, Quick self introduction -- Im a long time linux user/abuser who is slowly moving into the solaris/opensolaris space and enjoying every minute in doing so. Im flabbergasted to see why Blastwave, or something similar, hasnt got into mainstream solaris or even opensolaris. Coming from a strong debian background, the most convenient tool one had at his disposal was apt-get. Installing and updating packages that lived on remote servers was just something every linux user would expect be available. Its hard for me to comprehend how this is not available with something so mature as solaris. Also having the package source (upstream source + package maintainer diff + changelogs + package documentation) available through apt-get was a great help for people wanting to add their own patches to packages. Im also concerned at seeing projects like SFE[0] working towards providing easy to access package information and spec files to the public without any collaboration with Blastwave. This appears to me as duplication of work and is fracturing the achievement of a common goal both projects are trying to achieve. Im interested in the Blastwave communities thoughts on this and whether there is a strong push for the Blastwave project , or something very similar, to be an _official_ opensolaris project. Would anyone like to share thoughts or point me towards some documentation, threads, blog posts that describes the history and reasons why this isnt a combined effort? Cheers and thanks for reading my concerns (or rant). :) -- Rene [0] - http://pkgbuild.sourceforge.net/spec-files-extra/ From asmoore at edge.net Sat Aug 11 00:12:03 2007 From: asmoore at edge.net (Alex Moore) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:12:03 -0500 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create In-Reply-To: <10073823.ZDPLZba9TO@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> References: <20070810053754.00007fff@mcsrv5> <10073823.ZDPLZba9TO@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> Message-ID: <20070810171203.00006ef9@mcsrv5> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:52:39 +0200 Alexander Skwar wrote: > Alex Moore wrote: > > > On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:05:14 +0000 (UTC) > > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > >> root at svnds01 ~ # pkg-get -i md5sum > >> WARNING: gpg not found > >> /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create > >> /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[25]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create > >> > > > > See the 'HOW TO ..' link at www.blastwave.org. > > I must be blind :) Could you please tell me which section > I should read? on the howto.html 'Last Word - ...' 'Install gnupg and md5(gmd5sum). Maybe you already did this and there is a different problem. Alex From cahille at yahoo.com Sat Aug 11 00:33:57 2007 From: cahille at yahoo.com (Earl Cahill) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create Message-ID: <666532.35921.qm@web50908.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Here are my very boiled down steps # pkgadd -d http://www.blastwave.org/pkg_get.pkg# cp -p /var/pkg-get/admin-fullauto /var/pkg-get/adminto /etc/profile add PATH=/opt/csw/bin:/usr/sfw/bin:/usr/ccs/bin:/usr/ucb:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin# pkg-get -i gnupg perl textutils wget# /opt/csw/bin/wget --output-document=pgp.key http://www.blastwave.org/mirrors.html# gpg --import pgp.key Hope this helps. I have used these steps maybe twenty times and they work just fine for me :) Maybe now someone could respond to my apache2, mod_perl, mysql email :) Enjoy! Earl ----- Original Message ---- From: Alex Moore To: users at lists.blastwave.org Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 4:12:03 PM Subject: Re: [csw-users] /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:52:39 +0200 Alexander Skwar wrote: > Alex Moore wrote: > > > On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:05:14 +0000 (UTC) > > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > >> root at svnds01 ~ # pkg-get -i md5sum > >> WARNING: gpg not found > >> /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create > >> /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[25]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create > >> > > > > See the 'HOW TO ..' link at www.blastwave.org. > > I must be blind :) Could you please tell me which section > I should read? on the howto.html 'Last Word - ...' 'Install gnupg and md5(gmd5sum). Maybe you already did this and there is a different problem. Alex _______________________________________________ users mailing list users at lists.blastwave.org https://lists.blastwave.org/mailman/listinfo/users ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.blastwave.org/pipermail/users/attachments/20070810/bc299d59/attachment.html From ml at eroteme.org Sat Aug 11 19:36:34 2007 From: ml at eroteme.org (S. Hakim Hamdani [ML]) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:36:34 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] OpenOffice printing... Message-ID: <20070811193634.00005034@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> To the attention of James Lee: - Concerning printing from OpenOffice - James, thanks for the comments and tips. I can print from OpenOffice if I start it from the commandline. I cannot print when I run e.g. swriter from X. I don't use csw OpenOffice but the builds directly from their website, so I don't expect things to work as smoothly as they do with csw software. ;) In any case, as I said, I'm quite happy to export to pdf and then lp that. Best regards, Hakim -- S. Hakim Hamdani [ML] / Eroteme.org From griffous at griffous.net Sun Aug 12 06:27:39 2007 From: griffous at griffous.net (Jonathan Wheeler) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:27:39 +1200 Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE Message-ID: <46BE8C3B.9040708@griffous.net> > Hi All, > > Quick self introduction -- Im a long time linux user/abuser who is slowly moving into > the solaris/opensolaris space and enjoying every minute in doing so. I'm in much the same position. Welcome to the one true path to enlightenment. [0] > Im flabbergasted to see why Blastwave, or something similar, hasnt got > into mainstream solaris or even opensolaris. I doubt we'd ever see BW integrating with the official "solaris". Opensolaris/Nevada/Indiana? Maybe, but for support and liability reasons, I expect that Sun will always want to keep solaris close to their chest. Much as Redhat has fedora for the community to use & abuse. Indiana, should it ever move beyond a mere mailing list thread and actually become something usable, well that has some real potential. Dennis has been directly talking to Ian about exactly this, I believe... > Coming from a strong debian background, the most convenient tool one had > at his disposal was apt-get. Installing and updating packages that lived > on remote servers was just something every linux user would expect be > available. > > Its hard for me to comprehend how this is not available with something > so mature as solaris. You're not alone. To be clear though, this is more a SUN problem, then a BW one. Without BW, the situation would be magnitudes worse, so it's good to see that we've been making a real difference here. > Also having the package source (upstream source + package maintainer diff + > changelogs + package documentation) available through apt-get was a great help for people wanting to add their own patches to packages. > > Im also concerned at seeing projects like SFE[0] working towards > providing easy to access package information and spec files to the public without > any collaboration with Blastwave. This appears to me as duplication > of work and is fracturing the achievement of a common goal both projects > are trying to achieve. This may be a little more complex then it sounds. I haven't spent much time with SFE, but it's my understanding that they're just targeting Solaris 10+. Is this correct? Also, the big difference is that we distribute binaries (with source being available via SVN), while SFE technically doesn't do either. In my mind, that makes BW a full service, while SFE seems more like a ports/portage effort. Please correct me if I have this all wrong. Now that's not to say that we can't benefit from the hard work that they've already done. :) When I get some time, I'd like to do a comparison of our requested packages list, and also the Sun companion CD, vs the SFE repository. If there are some matches out there, I'd like to make a start on packaging some of these apps - in theory, much of the hard work has already been done. Now, where did I put that spare time of mine... I'm sure it's in here somewhere! *rustle rustle*. > > Im interested in the Blastwave communities thoughts on this and whether > there is a strong push for the Blastwave project , or something very > similar, to be an _official_ opensolaris project. Well you have mine now, but I hardly speak on behalf of BW, I'll let some of the other heavyweights and long timers chime in from here :) Guys? > Would anyone like to share thoughts or point me towards some documentation, threads, > blog posts that describes the history and reasons why this isnt a combined effort? Predates me sorry. > Cheers and thanks for reading my concerns (or rant). :) No problem, I think it's a very good question, and certainly very relevant to the BW effort! JW [0] My funny sense of humor - this was a joke! From brandorr at opensolaris.org Sun Aug 12 06:34:06 2007 From: brandorr at opensolaris.org (Brandorr) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:34:06 -0400 Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE In-Reply-To: <46BE8C3B.9040708@griffous.net> References: <46BE8C3B.9040708@griffous.net> Message-ID: <5b5090780708112134r2a11aa4aj8ebe8b9d9cc4934b@mail.gmail.com> > > > Its hard for me to comprehend how this is not available with something > > so mature as solaris. > You're not alone. To be clear though, this is more a SUN problem, then a > BW one. Without BW, the situation would be magnitudes worse, so it's > good to see that we've been making a real difference here. You have to understand that historically most people bought their applications, and used proprietary development tools. (Short of a small list of GNU tools that were fairly commonly used, there really wasn't much call for open source repositories... ) It's just been relatively recently that there has been an explosion of open source application development. (As oppose to cli commands/tools). that have made this a neccessity. (Fairly recently would be within the past 10 years or so). -Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.blastwave.org/pipermail/users/attachments/20070812/34a5292f/attachment.html From cahille at yahoo.com Sun Aug 12 09:51:50 2007 From: cahille at yahoo.com (Earl Cahill) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE Message-ID: <991648.56247.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Any chance that blastwave, coolstack and opensolaris could at least be built with the same compiler (the latest studio 12?) so that packages could be a little friendlier? As per this thread http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5135030&start=0&tstart=0 blastwave and opensolaris perl packages don't always (never?) work together. Maybe it is just perl packages that don't play nice, but probably not. Thanks, Earl ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.blastwave.org/pipermail/users/attachments/20070812/d38444b4/attachment.html From a.cervellin at acm.org Sun Aug 12 13:31:59 2007 From: a.cervellin at acm.org (Alessio) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 13:31:59 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE In-Reply-To: <991648.56247.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <991648.56247.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46BEEFAF.4060907@acm.org> Earl Cahill wrote: > Any chance that blastwave, coolstack and opensolaris could at least be > built with the same compiler (the latest studio 12?) no, at least studio 11, 'cause studio 12 is not supported on solaris 8, which is the platform the csw packages are built on. From griffous at griffous.net Sun Aug 12 14:01:48 2007 From: griffous at griffous.net (Jonathan Wheeler) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:01:48 +1200 Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE In-Reply-To: <46BEEFAF.4060907@acm.org> References: <991648.56247.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <46BEEFAF.4060907@acm.org> Message-ID: <46BEF6AC.9030607@griffous.net> Alessio wrote: > Earl Cahill wrote: >> Any chance that blastwave, coolstack and opensolaris could at least be >> built with the same compiler (the latest studio 12?) > > no, at least studio 11, 'cause studio 12 is not supported on solaris 8, > which is the platform the csw packages are built on. I'll also add to this that of the 3 packages that I'm maintaining, all require the use of GCC. Like it or hate it, that's just the way the software has been written. We're packagers, not all of us are developers with sufficient skill (or time) to make the code-level changes needed to make our packaged programs work with studio on solaris. I hasten to add that I'd like to learn how to do these things, but I think it's fair to say that the use of GCC isn't a BW imposed policy that we support both; it's a necessity in order for us to offer our users the broadest range of software possible :) Jonathan From pde at rfc822.net Sun Aug 12 14:49:06 2007 From: pde at rfc822.net (Pete Ehlke) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 07:49:06 -0500 Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE In-Reply-To: <46BE8C3B.9040708@griffous.net> References: <46BE8C3B.9040708@griffous.net> Message-ID: <20070812124906.GA17702@rfc822.net> On Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 16:27:39 +1200, Jonathan Wheeler wrote: > >> Coming from a strong debian background, the most convenient tool one had >> at his disposal was apt-get. Installing and updating packages that lived >> on remote servers was just something every linux user would expect be >> available. >> >> Its hard for me to comprehend how this is not available with something >> so mature as solaris. >You're not alone. To be clear though, this is more a SUN problem, then a >BW one. Without BW, the situation would be magnitudes worse, so it's >good to see that we've been making a real difference here. > Many people seem to be unaware of this, from pkgadd(1M): -d datastream pkgname,... | all Install or copy a package from device. device can be any of the following: o A full path name to a directory or the identifiers for tape, floppy disk, or removable disk (for example, /var/tmp or /floppy/floppy_name). o A device alias (for example, /floppy/floppy0). o A datastream created by pkgtrans (see pkgtrans(1)). o A URL pointing to a datastream created by pkgtrans. The supported Universal Resource Identifiers (URIs) are http: and https:. I don't recall any more when that first appeared, but it's been a very long time now that pkgadd has been able to install from remote servers. True that you have to put together your own package server, and build your own order files ( since pkgadd doesn't chase dependencies ), but I've been installing packages from remote servers for years. It's unclear to me just now- after a couple of years using csw- whether it's more hassle maintaining a package server and order files, or dealing with the lack of coherent csw releases. Few things are more annoying than pkg-get wanting to upgrade the world because someone made a pm_* package depend on a specific rev of CSWcommon. -Pete From a.cervellin at acm.org Sun Aug 12 15:14:36 2007 From: a.cervellin at acm.org (Alessio) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:14:36 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE In-Reply-To: <20070812124906.GA17702@rfc822.net> References: <46BE8C3B.9040708@griffous.net> <20070812124906.GA17702@rfc822.net> Message-ID: <46BF07BC.9090703@acm.org> Pete Ehlke wrote: > It's unclear to me just now- after a couple of years using csw- whether > it's more hassle maintaining a package server and order files, or > dealing with the lack of coherent csw releases. Few things are more > annoying than pkg-get wanting to upgrade the world because someone made > a pm_* package depend on a specific rev of CSWcommon. you have not to upgrade the world, usually you have only to upgrade the CSWcommon package... which contains nothing but the creation of a few empty folders, so the upgrade process is not bandwidth or time consuming. also, as far as i know, it's not true that a package can depend on a *specific* revision of another one. From a.cervellin at acm.org Sun Aug 12 15:18:50 2007 From: a.cervellin at acm.org (Alessio) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:18:50 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE In-Reply-To: <46BEF6AC.9030607@griffous.net> References: <991648.56247.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <46BEEFAF.4060907@acm.org> <46BEF6AC.9030607@griffous.net> Message-ID: <46BF08BA.1040705@acm.org> Jonathan Wheeler wrote: > We're packagers, not all of us are developers with sufficient skill (or > time) to make the code-level changes needed to make our packaged > programs work with studio on solaris. well, this should be the work of a csw maintainer... if you (not jonathan) do not have the skill, maybe you should not signup as package maintainer. if you don't know how to fix a source to build it with sun c/c++, you can: - ask help on the maintainers mailing list - ask help to mr. google - submit a bug on the project owners From william at wbonnet.net Sun Aug 12 15:32:48 2007 From: william at wbonnet.net (William Bonnet) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:32:48 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave users maillist description changed In-Reply-To: <53806.72.39.216.186.1186663734.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <53806.72.39.216.186.1186663734.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <00C2F1C5-4713-4056-89C9-E75BCC4AAB4F@wbonnet.net> Hi > > The idea here is that we can and probably should have open > discussions about > things like code optimization as well as compiler options and > things like > that. These sort of things may benefit everyone involved and it > would be > hubris to think that we know all that we need to know. > Sounds good to me Cheers, -- William http://www.wbonnet.net http://www.sunwizard.net Le site fran?ais des amateurs de stations Unix http://www.blastwave.org An OpenSolaris Community Site http://www.guses.org French speaking Solaris User Group -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.blastwave.org/pipermail/users/attachments/20070812/c6780071/attachment.html From cahille at yahoo.com Sun Aug 12 19:02:51 2007 From: cahille at yahoo.com (Earl Cahill) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [csw-users] mod_perl troubles Message-ID: <881485.37708.qm@web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Next time I build a zone, I will try and make sure that I only use blastwave stuff. It could be that using /etc/apache2/original/httpd.conf was at the heart of my trouble. Thanks, Earl ----- Original Message ---- From: Alex Moore Cc: Earl Cahill ; questions and discussions Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 4:51:37 PM Subject: Re: [csw-users] mod_perl troubles On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Earl Cahill wrote: > pkg-get -i perl ap2_modperl apache2 memcached > > copy over an httpd.conf > > cp /etc/apache2/original/httpd.conf /etc/apache2/httpd.conf > > at the end of my httpd.conf, I append > There are multiple references to non-CSWapache2 files in your email. Which are you using? Sun's apache2 or CSWapache2? For example, the cp above copies to /etc/..; which does not sound like a directory used by CSWapache2. Confused, Alex ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.blastwave.org/pipermail/users/attachments/20070812/83871260/attachment.html From listen at alexander.skwar.name Mon Aug 13 08:57:12 2007 From: listen at alexander.skwar.name (Alexander Skwar) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:57:12 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create References: <20070810053754.00007fff@mcsrv5> <10073823.ZDPLZba9TO@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> <20070810171203.00006ef9@mcsrv5> Message-ID: <7429268.01THC6iOS7@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> Alex Moore wrote: > On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:52:39 +0200 > Alexander Skwar wrote: > >> Alex Moore wrote: >> >> > On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:05:14 +0000 (UTC) >> > Alexander Skwar wrote: >> > >> >> root at svnds01 ~ # pkg-get -i md5sum >> >> WARNING: gpg not found >> >> /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create >> >> /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[25]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create >> >> >> > >> > See the 'HOW TO ..' link at www.blastwave.org. >> >> I must be blind :) Could you please tell me which section >> I should read? > > on the howto.html 'Last Word - ...' 'Install gnupg and md5(gmd5sum). > > Maybe you already did this and there is a different problem. Because gpg is not available, nothing can be installed and things fail with this error message? And how DO I install gnupg, if pkg-get -i $pkg_name does not work? Note: I don't care about the "WARNING: gpg not found" message. Alexander Skwar From listen at alexander.skwar.name Mon Aug 13 08:59:44 2007 From: listen at alexander.skwar.name (Alexander Skwar) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:59:44 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create References: <666532.35921.qm@web50908.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1204746.OfZSi1bo3D@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> Earl Cahill wrote: > Here are my very boiled down steps > > # pkgadd -d http://www.blastwave.org/pkg_get.pkg# cp -p > # /var/pkg-get/admin-fullauto /var/pkg-get/adminto > /etc/profile add > PATH=/opt/csw/bin:/usr/sfw/bin:/usr/ccs/bin:/usr/ucb:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin# > pkg-get -i gnupg perl textutils wget# /opt/csw/bin/wget > --output-document=pgp.key http://www.blastwave.org/mirrors.html# gpg > --import pgp.key This will fail at the "pkg-get -i gnupg perl textutils wget" step, won't it? Anyway: I do have pkg_get installed. I copied the admin-fullauto file. Maybe I did not make this clear enough: I used to be able to install stuff on THIS machine with pkg-get. It just stopped working for some reason or the other. > Hope this helps. I have used these steps maybe twenty times and > they work just fine for me :) Same for me - on all my other machines. Alexander Skwar From james at blastwave.org Mon Aug 13 10:14:55 2007 From: james at blastwave.org (James Lee) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:14:55 GMT Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE In-Reply-To: <20070812124906.GA17702@rfc822.net> References: <46BE8C3B.9040708@griffous.net> <20070812124906.GA17702@rfc822.net> Message-ID: <20070813.8145500.2569537452@gyor.oxdrove.co.uk> On 12/08/07, 13:49:06, Pete Ehlke wrote regarding Re: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE: > Few things are more > annoying than pkg-get wanting to upgrade the world because someone made > a pm_* package depend on a specific rev of CSWcommon. You have a lucky life but one of those few things more annoying is updating a package and discovering it causes several others to fail. More annoying still is not discovering - until some overnight run or daemon fails. pkg-get correctly expects that packages are of a compatible version and does so by updating to the current state, true there may be other workable states but none are known and checked. Where did you get the idea that packages are and 100% modular, interchangeable and compatible between versions? James. From asmoore at blastwave.org Mon Aug 13 12:47:44 2007 From: asmoore at blastwave.org (Alex Moore) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 05:47:44 -0500 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create In-Reply-To: <7429268.01THC6iOS7@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> References: <20070810053754.00007fff@mcsrv5> <10073823.ZDPLZba9TO@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> <20070810171203.00006ef9@mcsrv5> <7429268.01THC6iOS7@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> Message-ID: <20070813054744.00000351@sws602.mcsun.local> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:57:12 +0200 Alexander Skwar wrote: > Because gpg is not available, nothing can be installed and things fail > with this error message? > > And how DO I install gnupg, if pkg-get -i $pkg_name does not work? > > Note: I don't care about the "WARNING: gpg not found" message. From the HowTo page: ----> Install gnupg and md5(gmd5sum) As the root user you need to use pkg-get to install gnupg and an md5 program. [Solaris 10 comes with /usr/bin/digest which can do md5 checksums, but otherwise you will need to install the textutils package as well] bash-3.00# /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get -i gnupg textutils WARNING: gpg not found NOTE: To have checksums compared, you must install one of: md5 or gmd5sum (gmd5sum is available with GNU textutils) try 'pkg-get install textutils' . <---- OR from the bottom of /opt/csw/etc/pkg-get.conf ----> # To disable use of gpg or md5, uncomment these #use_gpg=false #use_md5=false <---- Alex -- From listen at alexander.skwar.name Mon Aug 13 13:00:53 2007 From: listen at alexander.skwar.name (Alexander Skwar) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:00:53 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] [SOLVED] Re: /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create References: <20070810053754.00007fff@mcsrv5> <10073823.ZDPLZba9TO@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> <20070810171203.00006ef9@mcsrv5> <7429268.01THC6iOS7@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> <20070813054744.00000351@sws602.mcsun.local> Message-ID: <2498104.N0dYTicAX1@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> Alex Moore wrote: > On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:57:12 +0200 > Alexander Skwar wrote: > >> Because gpg is not available, nothing can be installed and things fail >> with this error message? >> >> And how DO I install gnupg, if pkg-get -i $pkg_name does not work? >> >> Note: I don't care about the "WARNING: gpg not found" message. > >>From the HowTo page: [..] > bash-3.00# /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get -i gnupg textutils Ah. So the issue was just, that I tried to install a nonexistant package (md5sum). It's not that the configuration of the system was bad, or something like that. SUMMARY: Only try to install packages, which actually exist. And don't complain, if nonexistant packages cannot be installed. Thanks, Alexander Skwar From listen at alexander.skwar.name Mon Aug 13 13:11:54 2007 From: listen at alexander.skwar.name (Alexander Skwar) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:11:54 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create References: Message-ID: <1949176.dUVJMjM8vi@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> Alexander Skwar wrote: > Hallo! > > I'm trying to install something using pkg-get on Solaris 10 machine. This > fails: > > root at svnds01 ~ # pkg-get -i md5sum > WARNING: gpg not found > /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create > /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[25]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create Hm. I'm still getting this /dev/fd/2 error message. This time, it's in a different line though: root at svnds01 ~ # pkg-get -i ircii /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[56]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create Trying http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/csw/unstable/sparc/5.10/ircii-2.8.2-SunOS5.8-sparc-CSW.pkg.gz [...] Prior to installing ircii, I followed Earls hints: # pkgadd -d http://www.blastwave.org/pkg_get.pkg # cp -p /var/pkg-get/admin-fullauto /var/pkg-get/adminto ## /etc/profile add PATH=/opt/csw/bin:/usr/sfw/bin:/usr/ccs/bin:/usr/ucb:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin # pkg-get -i gnupg perl textutils wget # /opt/csw/bin/wget --output-document=pgp.key http://www.blastwave.org/mirrors.html # gpg --import pgp.key use_gpg and use_md5 are NOT set to false in pkg-get.conf. They are left to the default values: root at svnds01 ~ # grep use_ /opt/csw/etc/pkg-get.conf #use_gpg=false #use_md5=false What am I missing this time? And when I set "use_md5=false", I'm getting more /dev/fd/2 error messages: root at svnds01 ~ # pkg-get -i ircii /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[56]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[7]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create md5 utility temporarily non-functional assuming local file ircii-2.8.2-SunOS5.8-sparc-CSW.pkg.gz valid to use Analysing special files... [...] Best regards, Alexander Skwar From Maunir.shah at knowles.com Wed Aug 15 20:37:48 2007 From: Maunir.shah at knowles.com (Shah, Maunir) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:37:48 -0500 Subject: [csw-users] Apache and mod_jk2 Message-ID: I installed apache v1.3.34 (CSWapache) and mod_jk2 v2.0.2 (CSWmodjk) and whenever I try to start it, I get the module error. OS is Solaris 10 and has the latest patches. I can't get this to work at all. If I remove my mod_jk2.conf file line from httpd.conf, then it's fine. But, that defeats the purpose. I know I'm missing something but just can seem to figure out what it is. [Wed Aug 15 18:12:31 2007] ( info) [mod_jk2.c (208)]: Set serverRoot /j2ee/apache Create config for main host Syntax error on line 6 of /j2ee/local/conf/mod_jk2.conf: Invalid command 'JkWorkersFile', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration /j2ee/apache/bin/apachectl startssl: httpd could not be started cat /j2ee/local/conf/mod_jk2.conf LoadModule jk2_module /j2ee/apache/libexec/mod_jk2.so JkWorkersFile "/j2ee/apache/conf/workers2.properties" JkLogFile "/j2ee/tomcat/logs/mod_jk.log" JkLogLevel info JkMount /*.jsp ajp13 My httpd.conf (some of the lines that reflect mod_jk2) LoadModule jk2_module libexec/mod_jk2.so #I have tried commenting out mod_jk2.c lines, and have added the mod_jk2.conf settings as well. And both doesn't to work. # For mod_jk2 support. Added by CSWmodjk2 Include /j2ee/local/conf/mod_jk2.conf Maunir Shah 630-285-5875 - desk 630-550-6266 - cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.blastwave.org/pipermail/users/attachments/20070815/412e48ea/attachment.html From aaron at ernieball.com Wed Aug 15 23:21:48 2007 From: aaron at ernieball.com (Aaron Wilson) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:21:48 -0700 Subject: [csw-users] Bacula 2.2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46C36E6C.4050404@ernieball.com> I'm not sure who is responsible for putting Bacula 2.2 up in testing. I'm guessing Alex Moore since he is listed as the maintainer for the Bacula packages in unstable. I've gotten 2.2 up and running beautifully. Thanks for that. I did have a question though. Would it be possible to compile it with Bat enabled? I've heard Bat is being included in the newer 2.2 builds and is probably one of the better gui's for Bacula. I just looked at the configuration options for compiling bacula 2.2 and there is a --enable-bat switch. Maybe you did I just didn't see how to run it. Either way, thanks for getting 2.2 up. Aaron From a.cervellin at acm.org Wed Aug 15 23:29:25 2007 From: a.cervellin at acm.org (Alessio) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:29:25 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Bacula 2.2 In-Reply-To: <46C36E6C.4050404@ernieball.com> References: <46C36E6C.4050404@ernieball.com> Message-ID: <46C37035.8090901@acm.org> > I've gotten 2.2 up and running beautifully. Thanks for that. I did have > a question though. Would it be possible to compile it with Bat enabled? you can post this request on the blastwave bug tracker (mantis) so that the maintainer will get it From Maunir.shah at knowles.com Fri Aug 17 21:00:15 2007 From: Maunir.shah at knowles.com (Shah, Maunir) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:00:15 -0500 Subject: [csw-users] ldd on mod_jk2.so Message-ID: I installed this module to work with tomcat and when I do ldd it comes back with nothing. Am I missing something with the libraries or a path. Or is this a bug that I'm not aware of. ke-devweb:root:921#ldd /j2ee/apache/libexec/mod_jk2.so ke-devweb:root:922# Maunir Shah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.blastwave.org/pipermail/users/attachments/20070817/544a1f2c/attachment.html From asmoore at blastwave.org Sat Aug 18 15:44:52 2007 From: asmoore at blastwave.org (Alex Moore) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:44:52 -0500 Subject: [csw-users] dovecot Message-ID: <20070818084452.00007f4c@sws602.mcsun.local> I put dovecot 1.0.3 and a new package, dovecot-sieve 1.0.2, at http://www.blastwave.org/testing for manual installation. If anyone is interested in testing this; it would be appreciated. Particularly, dovecot-sieve. I have tried to build a dovecot_devel package for you to build dovecot-sieve. After several attempts, I thought that it would be easier for me to just build dovecot-sieve. Also, if there is a maintainer willing to take over the dovecot packages, I could use some relief. I actually use courier-imap, but have setup a test box for dovecot imap. I have no clue of how to test dovecot-sieve. Finally, if there are additional files needed for the dovecot-sieve package, please let me know and I can add them. Thanks, Alex -- From yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org Sat Aug 18 21:53:17 2007 From: yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org (Yann Rouillard) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:53:17 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Openssh upgrade problem under Solaris 10 for next package Message-ID: <1187466797.6053.90.camel@celaeno> Hi, Following smf support in last openssh package, I have some problems with the openssh upgrade for the next openssh package. Because of the process contract stuff, smf right now kills all ssh processes when the service is disabled. This is a bug in itself and leads to two problem when openssh will be upgraded: - Problem 1: all the sshd connections will be closed 60s maximum after the openssh package removal. Administrators may not be aware of this, and this could close the current ssh connection used to do the upgrade. - Problem 2: smf is still trying to shutdown the previous sshd service (waiting 60s before killing all sshd processes) when the new one is being installed. And after that the service goes into maintenance mode so the new sshd service will not be properly started. Hence you can end up in a situation where you have no more opened ssh connections and no way to open a new one. For now, here is what I intend to do or did: - for problem 1: I don't see any workaround, so I will warn blastwave users on -announce and -users before the next package will land in unstable. - for problem 2: I solved the problem by adding a little hack in preinstall, it will wait for the service to quit the 'online*' state and then will clear the service state, if it is in maintenance mode. This way, the sshd service will be restarted. Updated solaris 10 packages are available in /testing: http://www.blastwave.org/testing/openssh-4.6,REV=2007.08.17_rev=p1-SunOS5.10-i386-CSW.pkg.gz http://www.blastwave.org/testing/openssh-4.6,REV=2007.08.17_rev=p1-SunOS5.10-sparc-CSW.pkg.gz Comments and testing are welcome. These problems will only affect next upgrade, because starting with theses packages, I enabled solaris contract support for Solaris 10 which avoid the problem 1, and I now use the "-s" option for "svcadm disable" in preremove so that a service really is in the disabled state when the package is removed. Yann From dclarke at blastwave.org Sat Aug 18 22:23:46 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:23:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] Openssh upgrade problem under Solaris 10 for next package In-Reply-To: <1187466797.6053.90.camel@celaeno> References: <1187466797.6053.90.camel@celaeno> Message-ID: <63472.72.39.216.186.1187468626.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Firstly, Yann, this is top notch excellent work. I want you to know that I am very thankful for these packages and the work you do. Also .. I'll watch for you post to announce and if we can make a nice easy README then I'll get it on the homepage as well as on a static permanent page on the site like so : http://www.blastwave.org/articles/BLS-0043/index.html more comments below : > Hi, > > Following smf support in last openssh package, I have some problems with the openssh upgrade for the next openssh package. > > Because of the process contract stuff, smf right now kills all ssh processes when the service is disabled. > > This is a bug in itself and leads to two problem when openssh will be upgraded: > > - Problem 1: all the sshd connections will be closed 60s maximum after the > openssh package removal. Administrators may not be aware of this, and this could close the current ssh connection used to do the upgrade. > > - Problem 2: smf is still trying to shutdown the previous sshd service > (waiting 60s before killing all sshd processes) when the new one is being installed. And after that the service goes into maintenance mode so the new sshd service will not be properly started. > > Hence you can end up in a situation where you have no more opened ssh connections and no way to open a new one. > > > For now, here is what I intend to do or did: > > - for problem 1: I don't see any workaround, so I will warn blastwave users > on -announce and -users before the next package will land in unstable. > > - for problem 2: I solved the problem by adding a little hack in > preinstall, it will wait for the service to quit the 'online*' state and then will clear the service state, if it is in maintenance mode. This way, the sshd service will be restarted. > > Updated solaris 10 packages are available in /testing: > http://www.blastwave.org/testing/openssh-4.6,REV=2007.08.17_rev=p1-SunOS5.10-i386-CSW.pkg.gz http://www.blastwave.org/testing/openssh-4.6,REV=2007.08.17_rev=p1-SunOS5.10-sparc-CSW.pkg.gz > > Comments and testing are welcome. > > These problems will only affect next upgrade, because starting with theses packages, I enabled solaris contract support for Solaris 10 > which avoid the problem 1, and I now use the "-s" option for "svcadm disable" in preremove so that a service really > is in the disabled state when the package is removed. > I think that these packages need to be handled with some degree of care. I have been giving this some thought and I'd like to institute a testing form or test report that needs to be filled out on packages like this. Please hear me out on this if you will. Some packages, like gzip, need minimal testing in order to verify that they perform as expected and install correctly. Other packages like browsers ( SeaMonkey in particular ) need lots of testing with various mixed pages of various encryption levels and with Shockwave flash plugins and java etc etc etc on both Sparc and x86 for more than just Solaris 8. It is my sad duty to report that I still have a sun4m machine in fact and from time to time I'll use it. :-P Packages like OpenSSH or OpenSSL require more extensive tests. Something organized and rigourous. Within reason. The mathematician within me knows that we can not achieve a rigourous proof that provides certainty. We can only test test test on every platform reasonable and then sign off saying "yes, that works as expected in my opinion". I will test the OpenSSH packages on Sparc for both Solaris 8, Solaris Nevada ( Express Release 64a ) as well as Solaris 10 at Global Zone and non-global zone. I would think that we can create a test matrix that shows what was tested, on what platform and who did the test : WARNING : ASCII table ---------+----------------+--------------------+------------------ software | Solaris 8 | Solaris 10 Global | Solaris 10 Zone ---------+----------------+--------------------+------------------ openssh | Sparc: dclarke | Sparc: dclarke | Sparc: dclarke | x86 : | x86 : dclarke | x86 : dclarke | | AMD64: dclarke | AMD64: dclarke ---------+----------------+--------------------+------------------ Something like that but with Solaris Nevada Developers Release thrown in also as I thik that is an important release to test on. That should be build 70a to be released by Wed this week. Anyone have anything add? Like *what* the test would consist of on each platform and release. Perhaps large file scp and many small files scp and then just good old ssh with aes256-cbc block ciphers and things like that. Thoughts ? Dennis Clarke dclarke at opensolaris.org From asmoore at blastwave.org Sun Aug 19 16:54:48 2007 From: asmoore at blastwave.org (Alex Moore) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:54:48 -0500 Subject: [csw-users] NRPE SMF stop/restart methods. In-Reply-To: <1f8fae340707260647x282290ck7694519bc4a5ad51@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f8fae340707260647x282290ck7694519bc4a5ad51@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070819095448.00002458@sws602.mcsun.local> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:47:47 +0100 "Will McDonald" wrote: > Hi, > > I've just been setting up CSWnrpe 2.8.1,REV=2007.06.02 from Stable on > a Solaris 10 box and ran in to a minor problem, I don't know if it's > worth of a bug report but I'll post it for the archives anyway. > > In /opt/csw/lib/svc/method/svc-nrpe the stop/restart case statements > use: Thanks for this Will. It will be in the next package update, along with a few other things. Alex From ghenry at cmi.univ-mrs.fr Sun Aug 19 18:01:41 2007 From: ghenry at cmi.univ-mrs.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Henry?=) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:01:41 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] evince not showing fonts correctly? Message-ID: <46C86965.3050709@cmi.univ-mrs.fr> hello all, i'm trying to visualize this document: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/edu/nocost_resources/instructorguide.pdf i'm using evince 0.9.0 from blastwave, on solaris 10, and the result is unusable: http://www.latp.univ-mrs.fr/~henry/evince.png but with evince 0.6.1 compiled by Sun on Solaris Express Developer Edition (snv_64a), the result is correct. Anybody else got this problem? thanks for help, gerard From dclarke at blastwave.org Sun Aug 19 22:34:14 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:34:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] evince not showing fonts correctly? In-Reply-To: <46C86965.3050709@cmi.univ-mrs.fr> References: <46C86965.3050709@cmi.univ-mrs.fr> Message-ID: <59112.72.39.216.186.1187555654.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > hello all, > i'm trying to visualize this document: > http://opensolaris.org/os/community/edu/nocost_resources/instructorguide.pdf > > i'm using evince 0.9.0 from blastwave, on solaris 10, and the result is > unusable: > http://www.latp.univ-mrs.fr/~henry/evince.png wow .. that *is* ugly. it looks like a totally wrong font among other things. I always *hate* to say those magic words "works for me" but I just tested the latest evince from Sun thus : http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/blog/images/evince_081.png as well as the evince from Blastwave which I *know* works well : http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/blog/images/evince_090.png > but with evince 0.6.1 compiled by Sun on Solaris Express Developer > Edition (snv_64a), the result is correct. The latest version in snv_70 is evince 0.8.1 above but the version from Blastwave is 0.9.0 and it does work. What we really need to look at is evince 0.9.0 on Solaris 10 as you illustrate. I'll fire that up but I expect the same results. > > Anybody else got this problem? > not thus far. Dennis From trygvis at inamo.no Mon Aug 20 08:28:51 2007 From: trygvis at inamo.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trygve_Laugst=F8l?=) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 08:28:51 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] evince not showing fonts correctly? In-Reply-To: <46C86965.3050709@cmi.univ-mrs.fr> References: <46C86965.3050709@cmi.univ-mrs.fr> Message-ID: <46C934A3.1070200@inamo.no> G?rard Henry wrote: > hello all, > i'm trying to visualize this document: > http://opensolaris.org/os/community/edu/nocost_resources/instructorguide.pdf > > i'm using evince 0.9.0 from blastwave, on solaris 10, and the result is > unusable: > http://www.latp.univ-mrs.fr/~henry/evince.png > > but with evince 0.6.1 compiled by Sun on Solaris Express Developer > Edition (snv_64a), the result is correct. > > Anybody else got this problem? As Dennis said it sounds like the wrong font is picked (which in itself is rendered correctly), but I've also seen this bug which perhaps is related: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6566332 -- Trygve From dclarke at blastwave.org Mon Aug 20 08:46:04 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 02:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] evince not showing fonts correctly? In-Reply-To: <46C934A3.1070200@inamo.no> References: <46C86965.3050709@cmi.univ-mrs.fr> <46C934A3.1070200@inamo.no> Message-ID: <1502.72.39.216.186.1187592364.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > G?rard Henry wrote: >> hello all, >> i'm trying to visualize this document: >> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/edu/nocost_resources/instructorguide.pdf >> >> i'm using evince 0.9.0 from blastwave, on solaris 10, and the result is >> unusable: >> http://www.latp.univ-mrs.fr/~henry/evince.png >> >> but with evince 0.6.1 compiled by Sun on Solaris Express Developer >> Edition (snv_64a), the result is correct. >> >> Anybody else got this problem? > > As Dennis said it sounds like the wrong font is picked (which in itself > is rendered correctly), but I've also seen this bug which perhaps is > related: > > http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6566332 > I'm still looking into this. I have to do a fresh install and then make a snapshot of that. Then I'll add evince and do some tests. Dennis From yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org Mon Aug 20 18:14:31 2007 From: yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org (Yann Rouillard) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:14:31 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Openssh upgrade problem under Solaris 10 for next package In-Reply-To: <63472.72.39.216.186.1187468626.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <1187466797.6053.90.camel@celaeno> <63472.72.39.216.186.1187468626.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <1187626471.6921.24.camel@celaeno> > Also .. I'll watch for you post to announce and if we can make a nice easy > README then I'll get it on the homepage as well as on a static permanent > page on the site like so : > > http://www.blastwave.org/articles/BLS-0043/index.html That's a good idea. > I will test the OpenSSH packages on Sparc for both Solaris 8, Solaris > Nevada ( Express Release 64a ) as well as Solaris 10 at Global Zone and > non-global zone. I would think that we can create a test matrix that shows > what was tested, on what platform and who did the test : To me, the package maintainer was responsible for testing his packages, but: - Additional tests are always a good thing, especially for a package like openssh. - it's not always easy to have access to all setup (os, zone setup, or amd64 for 64 bits binaries/libraries). So I definitely welcome these additionnal testings. Another nice idea would be that maintainer have access to a set of machines with all configuration that should be tested, and where they can install and test their packages. Theses machines would need to be easily restored to the original state. Virtualization would definitely help here (qemu ?). > WARNING : ASCII table > > ---------+----------------+--------------------+------------------ > software | Solaris 8 | Solaris 10 Global | Solaris 10 Zone > ---------+----------------+--------------------+------------------ > openssh | Sparc: dclarke | Sparc: dclarke | Sparc: dclarke > | x86 : | x86 : dclarke | x86 : dclarke > | | AMD64: dclarke | AMD64: dclarke > ---------+----------------+--------------------+------------------ I think amd64 tests are only useful if 64 bits libraries/binaries are provided, that's not the case for openssh. I already tested Solaris 9 sparc and Solaris 10 x86 (no zone). > Something like that but with Solaris Nevada Developers Release thrown in > also as I thik that is an important release to test on. That should be build > 70a to be released by Wed this week. > > Anyone have anything add? Like *what* the test would consist of on each > platform and release. Perhaps large file scp and many small files scp and > then just good old ssh with aes256-cbc block ciphers and things like that. > > Thoughts ? I personnally test login to/from, scp to/from, sftp to/from and as the package provide a daemon, start/stop and upgrade from previous version. Yann From trygvis at inamo.no Tue Aug 21 13:12:12 2007 From: trygvis at inamo.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trygve_Laugst=F8l?=) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:12:12 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Openssh upgrade problem under Solaris 10 for next package In-Reply-To: <1187626471.6921.24.camel@celaeno> References: <1187466797.6053.90.camel@celaeno> <63472.72.39.216.186.1187468626.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <1187626471.6921.24.camel@celaeno> Message-ID: <46CAC88C.30504@inamo.no> Yann Rouillard wrote: > >> Also .. I'll watch for you post to announce and if we can make a nice easy >> README then I'll get it on the homepage as well as on a static permanent >> page on the site like so : >> >> http://www.blastwave.org/articles/BLS-0043/index.html > > That's a good idea. > >> I will test the OpenSSH packages on Sparc for both Solaris 8, Solaris >> Nevada ( Express Release 64a ) as well as Solaris 10 at Global Zone and >> non-global zone. I would think that we can create a test matrix that shows >> what was tested, on what platform and who did the test : > > To me, the package maintainer was responsible for testing his packages, but: > > - Additional tests are always a good thing, especially for a package like openssh. > > - it's not always easy to have access to all setup (os, zone setup, or amd64 for 64 bits binaries/libraries). > > So I definitely welcome these additionnal testings. > > Another nice idea would be that maintainer have access to a set of > machines with all configuration that should be tested, and where they > can install and test their packages. Theses machines would need to be > easily restored to the original state. > Virtualization would definitely help here (qemu ?). > >> WARNING : ASCII table >> >> ---------+----------------+--------------------+------------------ >> software | Solaris 8 | Solaris 10 Global | Solaris 10 Zone >> ---------+----------------+--------------------+------------------ >> openssh | Sparc: dclarke | Sparc: dclarke | Sparc: dclarke >> | x86 : | x86 : dclarke | x86 : dclarke >> | | AMD64: dclarke | AMD64: dclarke >> ---------+----------------+--------------------+------------------ > > I think amd64 tests are only useful if 64 bits libraries/binaries are > provided, that's not the case for openssh. > > I already tested Solaris 9 sparc and Solaris 10 x86 (no zone). > >> Something like that but with Solaris Nevada Developers Release thrown in >> also as I thik that is an important release to test on. That should be build >> 70a to be released by Wed this week. >> >> Anyone have anything add? Like *what* the test would consist of on each >> platform and release. Perhaps large file scp and many small files scp and >> then just good old ssh with aes256-cbc block ciphers and things like that. >> >> Thoughts ? > > I personnally test login to/from, scp to/from, sftp to/from and as the > package provide a daemon, start/stop and upgrade from previous version. Are these steps documented anywhere? It would be nice to have both user and developer information about the packages somewhere. Just useful bits on oddities with the package and testing procedures. Also it would be nice if there was a page describing how to set up things like Apache. pkg-get install apache2 goes almost all the way, but still I feel that there should be a document describing where the configuration files are and how to import the cswapache2 SMF service into the system. Perhaps trac can be that documentation site as well? -- Trygve From yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org Tue Aug 21 14:00:17 2007 From: yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org (Yann Rouillard) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:00:17 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Openssh upgrade problem under Solaris 10 for next package In-Reply-To: <46CAC88C.30504@inamo.no> References: <1187466797.6053.90.camel@celaeno> <63472.72.39.216.186.1187468626.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <1187626471.6921.24.camel@celaeno> <46CAC88C.30504@inamo.no> Message-ID: <1187697617.7082.20.camel@celaeno> Le mardi 21 ao?t 2007 ? 13:12 +0200, Trygve Laugst?l a ?crit : > > I personnally test login to/from, scp to/from, sftp to/from and as > the > > package provide a daemon, start/stop and upgrade from previous > version. > > Are these steps documented anywhere? Not right now. Might be interesting but personnally I don't consider this first priority. > It would be nice to have both user and developer information about > the > packages somewhere. Just useful bits on oddities with the package and > testing procedures. Some notes can be put on the package mantis page but it is maybe not very well known and used, and it might not be the best place. I think part of these information should be in the package, in /opt/csw/share/doc//README.CSW for example and a wiki-like page per package could also be nice so that user can add information. > > Also it would be nice if there was a page describing how to set up > things like Apache. pkg-get install apache2 goes almost all the way, > but > still I feel that there should be a document describing where the > configuration files are and how to import the cswapache2 SMF service > into the system. apache2 manifest isn't automatically imported in the smf repository ? Then that's probably a bug. Yann From trygvis at inamo.no Tue Aug 21 22:45:56 2007 From: trygvis at inamo.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trygve_Laugst=F8l?=) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:45:56 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Interpreting the dependency analysis after a completed packaging Message-ID: <46CB4F04.7070000@inamo.no> Hi When I'm packaging my package I'm getting this output after the last step of "gmake package" and I just want to make sure I understand the output. Examining dependancies in 'depend' file (May take a while) system CSWcommon common - common files and dirs for CSW packages application CSWncurses ncurses - ncurses library and utilities application CSWossl openssl - The Open Source toolkit for SSL and TLS. application SMCncurs ncurses SUGGESTION: you may want to add some or all of the following as depends: (Feel free to ignore SUNW or SPRO packages) > !SUNWcslr > *SUNWdpl > *SUNWlibms > SUNWcsl > SUNWcslr > SUNWcsr > SUNWlibmsr > SUNWopenssl-libraries Does this mean that my files/CSWerlang.depend file should look like this: system CSWcommon common application CSWncurses ncurses application CSWossl openssl application SMCncurs ncurses I would guess that I need to include depndencies on the other packages, but what should their prefix be? And what does the * and ? prefixes in the output mean? -- Trygve From cargdrac at hotmail.com Wed Aug 22 22:43:40 2007 From: cargdrac at hotmail.com (Mauricio Cerna) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:43:40 +0000 Subject: [csw-users] Problem Installing pkg-get Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.blastwave.org/pipermail/users/attachments/20070822/831c35e0/attachment.html From a.cervellin at acm.org Wed Aug 22 23:46:42 2007 From: a.cervellin at acm.org (Alessio) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:46:42 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Problem Installing pkg-get In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46CCAEC2.3040701@acm.org> Can you provide us the following info about your system? uname -a cat /etc/release echo $PATH df -F ufs -k ls -tm /var/sadm/patch Mauricio Cerna wrote: > Good Afternoon: > > My namee is Mauricio Cerna and I have a problem when trying to install > the pkg-get. > > The first time I tried to install it I ran the commands you specify in > your web but at the point where it says: > > "This package contains scripts which will be executed with super-user > permission during the process of installing this package. Do you want to > continue with the installation of [y,n,?] y" > > > > When I Typped Y i did nothing an just turn me back to the bash..... > > > The second time I tried to install it I can get to the point: > > "Select package(s) you wish to process (or 'all' to process all > packages). (default: all) [?,??,q]: " > > The shells shows a message like > > "pkgadd ERROR: the image of the temporal content file can not be > opened(error number 11: Resource temporaly not available)" > > And thats all...... > > > I dont know what could be going wrong.. and I really need to install > this package in order to get php on a sunfire...... > > I hope you can help me cause my job depends on this > > Have a Good Day > > > Atte: > > > Mauricio Cerna > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Consigue aqu? las mejores y mas recientes ofertas de trabajo EE.UU. Clic > aqu? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users at lists.blastwave.org > https://lists.blastwave.org/mailman/listinfo/users From schluting at gmail.com Thu Aug 23 01:42:00 2007 From: schluting at gmail.com (Charlie Schluting) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:42:00 -0700 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? Message-ID: <839465400708221642rb3cdc47xb8bac4ed5b3b7ee8@mail.gmail.com> This directory used to come with an openssl package, I thought. Strangely, this directory has disappeared after an upgrade last week. I was using the thawte premium cert in that directory :( I currently don't see any openssl packages with CA certs.. what am I missing? Thanks, -Charlie From schluting at gmail.com Thu Aug 23 01:55:03 2007 From: schluting at gmail.com (Charlie Schluting) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:55:03 -0700 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <839465400708221642rb3cdc47xb8bac4ed5b3b7ee8@mail.gmail.com> References: <839465400708221642rb3cdc47xb8bac4ed5b3b7ee8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <839465400708221655s6202667bid679592b4498969e@mail.gmail.com> Aside from that, mod_ldap and py_ldap no longer work with SSL or TLS, even after I put the CA cert back in place. I haven't been able to figure out why... they connect to the LDAP server, and then disconnect (from the server's point of view). Apache debug logs say that SSL negotiation was successful, then report a bind error.. odd. Any insight? :) On 8/22/07, Charlie Schluting wrote: > This directory used to come with an openssl package, I thought. > > Strangely, this directory has disappeared after an upgrade last week. > I was using the thawte premium cert in that directory :( > > I currently don't see any openssl packages with CA certs.. what am I missing? > > Thanks, > -Charlie > From cargdrac at hotmail.com Thu Aug 23 01:58:31 2007 From: cargdrac at hotmail.com (Mauricio Cerna) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:58:31 +0000 Subject: [csw-users] Problem Installing pkg-get In-Reply-To: <46CCAEC2.3040701@acm.org> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.blastwave.org/pipermail/users/attachments/20070822/d4b5278c/attachment.html From yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org Thu Aug 23 02:14:16 2007 From: yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org (Yann Rouillard) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 02:14:16 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <839465400708221642rb3cdc47xb8bac4ed5b3b7ee8@mail.gmail.com> References: <839465400708221642rb3cdc47xb8bac4ed5b3b7ee8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1187828056.6285.5.camel@celaeno> Le mercredi 22 ao?t 2007 ? 16:42 -0700, Charlie Schluting a ?crit : > This directory used to come with an openssl package, I thought. > > Strangely, this directory has disappeared after an upgrade last week. > I was using the thawte premium cert in that directory :( > > I currently don't see any openssl packages with CA certs.. what am I missing? Definitely a bug. Will be fixed in the next openssl package which is right now waiting in the newpkgs queue. yann From yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org Thu Aug 23 02:16:40 2007 From: yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org (Yann Rouillard) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 02:16:40 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <839465400708221655s6202667bid679592b4498969e@mail.gmail.com> References: <839465400708221642rb3cdc47xb8bac4ed5b3b7ee8@mail.gmail.com> <839465400708221655s6202667bid679592b4498969e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1187828200.6285.7.camel@celaeno> Le mercredi 22 ao?t 2007 ? 16:55 -0700, Charlie Schluting a ?crit : > Aside from that, mod_ldap and py_ldap no longer work with SSL or TLS, > even after I put the CA cert back in place. I haven't been able to > figure out why... they connect to the LDAP server, and then disconnect > (from the server's point of view). Apache debug logs say that SSL > negotiation was successful, then report a bind error.. odd. > > Any insight? :) Can you give me the easier way to reproduce your bug ? Yann From schluting at gmail.com Thu Aug 23 03:19:20 2007 From: schluting at gmail.com (Charlie Schluting) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:19:20 -0700 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <1187828200.6285.7.camel@celaeno> References: <839465400708221642rb3cdc47xb8bac4ed5b3b7ee8@mail.gmail.com> <839465400708221655s6202667bid679592b4498969e@mail.gmail.com> <1187828200.6285.7.camel@celaeno> Message-ID: <839465400708221819h260ec020s614f3817dc58add4@mail.gmail.com> On 8/22/07, Yann Rouillard wrote: > > Can you give me the easier way to reproduce your bug ? > > Yann Not really :) I will try to create a test case that doesn't involve LDAP, if possible. Might wait for the new openssl package first.. -Charlie From dclarke at blastwave.org Thu Aug 23 04:30:37 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:30:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <839465400708221642rb3cdc47xb8bac4ed5b3b7ee8@mail.gmail.com> References: <839465400708221642rb3cdc47xb8bac4ed5b3b7ee8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <33372.72.39.216.186.1187836237.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > This directory used to come with an openssl package, I thought. > > Strangely, this directory has disappeared after an upgrade last week. > I was using the thawte premium cert in that directory :( > > I currently don't see any openssl packages with CA certs.. what am I > missing? > $ pkginfo -l CSWosslrt PKGINST: CSWosslrt NAME: openssl_rt - Openssl runtime libraries CATEGORY: application ARCH: i386 VERSION: 0.9.8,REV=2007.08.01_rev=e BASEDIR: / VENDOR: http://www.openssl.org/source/ packaged for CSW by Yann Rouillard PSTAMP: yann at isis-20070801113609 INSTDATE: Aug 06 2007 14:43 HOTLINE: http://www.blastwave.org/bugtrack/ EMAIL: yann at blastwave.org STATUS: completely installed FILES: 80 installed pathnames 2 shared pathnames 8 directories 19 executables 25302 blocks used (approx) Dennis From a.cervellin at acm.org Thu Aug 23 09:32:42 2007 From: a.cervellin at acm.org (Alessio) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:32:42 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Problem Installing pkg-get In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46CD381A.3070100@acm.org> > Althought.. Now it seems that the same error comes with each package I > try to install... do you mean any package you try to install with pkgadd or pkg-get? if it is with pkgadd, then you may have fallen in one of the many bugs solaris' pkgadd had lately... maybe installing the latest cluster patch, if possible, could help. of course, a reboot would be a nice try too. but if it's a production server, well... good luck! From a.cervellin at virgilio.it Thu Aug 23 11:07:42 2007 From: a.cervellin at virgilio.it (Alessio Cervellin) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:07:42 +0100 (GMT+01:00) Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? Message-ID: <11491fa2054.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> ----Messaggio originale---- Da: dclarke at blastwave.org Data: 23-ago-2007 4.30 A: "questions and discussions" Cc: "questions and discussions" Ogg: Re: [csw- users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? >> I currently don't see any openssl packages with CA certs.. what am I >> missing? > $ pkginfo -l CSWosslrt it does not contain any certificate... as confirmed by yann, this is a packaging bug. From cargdrac at hotmail.com Thu Aug 23 16:08:12 2007 From: cargdrac at hotmail.com (Mauricio Cerna) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:08:12 +0000 Subject: [csw-users] Problem Installing pkg-get In-Reply-To: <46CD381A.3070100@acm.org> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.blastwave.org/pipermail/users/attachments/20070823/d0497e63/attachment.html From dclarke at blastwave.org Thu Aug 23 16:55:13 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:55:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <11491fa2054.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> References: <11491fa2054.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> Message-ID: <34402.72.39.216.186.1187880913.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > ----Messaggio originale---- > Da: dclarke at blastwave.org > Data: 23-ago-2007 > 4.30 > A: "questions and discussions" > Cc: > "questions and discussions" > Ogg: Re: [csw- > users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? > > >>> I currently don't see any openssl > packages with CA certs.. what am I >>> missing? > >> $ pkginfo -l > CSWosslrt > > it does not contain any certificate... as confirmed by yann, > this is a packaging bug. then what is this on my machine here ? $ grep cert /var/sadm/install/contents | grep csw | grep thaw /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem f none 0644 root bin 1127 27384 1185982561 CSWosslrt /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCp.pem f none 0644 root bin 1155 30094 1185982561 CSWosslrt $ $ file /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem: ascii text $ cat /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem -----BEGIN CERTIFICATE----- MIIDEzCCAnygAwIBAgIBATANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADCBxDELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx FTATBgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMR0wGwYD VQQKExRUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyBjYzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlv biBTZXJ2aWNlcyBEaXZpc2lvbjEZMBcGA1UEAxMQVGhhd3RlIFNlcnZlciBDQTEm MCQGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYXc2VydmVyLWNlcnRzQHRoYXd0ZS5jb20wHhcNOTYwODAx MDAwMDAwWhcNMjAxMjMxMjM1OTU5WjCBxDELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgT DFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMR0wGwYDVQQKExRUaGF3 dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyBjYzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNl cyBEaXZpc2lvbjEZMBcGA1UEAxMQVGhhd3RlIFNlcnZlciBDQTEmMCQGCSqGSIb3 DQEJARYXc2VydmVyLWNlcnRzQHRoYXd0ZS5jb20wgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAD gY0AMIGJAoGBANOkUG7I/1Zr5s9dtuoMaHVHoqrC2oQl/Kj0R1HahbUgdJSGHg91 yekIYfUGbTBuFRkC6VLAYttNmZ7iagxEOM3+vuNkCXDF/rFrKbYvScg71CcEJRCX L+eQbcAoQpnXTEPew/UhbVSfXcNY4cDk2VuwuNy0e982OsK1ZiIS1ocNAgMBAAGj EzARMA8GA1UdEwEB/wQFMAMBAf8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQADgYEAB/pMaVz7lcxG 7oWDTSEwjsrZqG9JGubaUeNgcGyEYRGhGshIPllDfU+VPaGLtwtimHp1it2ITk6e QNuozDJ0uW8NxuOzRAvZim+aKZuZGCg70eNAKJpaPNW15yAbi8qkq43pUdniTCxZ qdq5snUb9kLy78fyGPmJvKP/iiMucEc= -----END CERTIFICATE----- $ Dennis From a.cervellin at virgilio.it Thu Aug 23 17:05:57 2007 From: a.cervellin at virgilio.it (Alessio Cervellin) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:05:57 +0100 (GMT+01:00) Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? Message-ID: <11493421ec1.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> >> it does not contain any certificate... as confirmed by yann, >> this is a packaging bug. > then what is this on my machine here ? who knows?.... check here: http://www.blastwave.org/filesearch/openssl_rt From yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org Thu Aug 23 17:10:23 2007 From: yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org (Yann Rouillard) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:10:23 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <34402.72.39.216.186.1187880913.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <11491fa2054.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> <34402.72.39.216.186.1187880913.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <1187881823.6503.3.camel@celaeno> > then what is this on my machine here ? > > $ grep cert /var/sadm/install/contents | grep csw | grep thaw > /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem f none 0644 root bin 1127 27384 1185982561 > CSWosslrt > /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCp.pem f none 0644 root bin 1155 30094 1185982561 > CSWosslrt > $ > > $ file /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem > /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem: ascii text > $ cat /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem Only affects sparc, did you check on x86 ? Yann From dclarke at blastwave.org Thu Aug 23 17:11:21 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 11:11:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <11493421ec1.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> References: <11493421ec1.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> Message-ID: <34436.72.39.216.186.1187881881.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> >>> it does not contain any certificate... as confirmed by yann, >>> this > is a packaging bug. > >> then what is this on my machine here ? > > who > knows?.... check here: http://www.blastwave.org/filesearch/openssl_rt hrmmm .. looks like a packaging bug. okay .. easy to fix all in all. Dennis From dclarke at blastwave.org Thu Aug 23 17:13:25 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 11:13:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <1187881823.6503.3.camel@celaeno> References: <11491fa2054.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> <34402.72.39.216.186.1187880913.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <1187881823.6503.3.camel@celaeno> Message-ID: <34438.72.39.216.186.1187882005.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > > >> then what is this on my machine here ? >> >> $ grep cert /var/sadm/install/contents | grep csw | grep thaw >> /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem f none 0644 root bin 1127 27384 1185982561 >> CSWosslrt >> /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCp.pem f none 0644 root bin 1155 30094 1185982561 >> CSWosslrt >> $ >> >> $ file /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem >> /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem: ascii text >> $ cat /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem > > Only affects sparc, did you check on x86 ? yes .. this is an x86 machine. One sec .. let look at Sol 8 Sparc $ uname -a SunOS pluto 5.8 Generic_117350-46 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-2 $ grep cert /var/sadm/install/contents | grep csw | grep thaw $ well then ... that takes care of that dc From yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org Thu Aug 23 17:17:46 2007 From: yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org (Yann Rouillard) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:17:46 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <34438.72.39.216.186.1187882005.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <11491fa2054.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> <34402.72.39.216.186.1187880913.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <1187881823.6503.3.camel@celaeno> <34438.72.39.216.186.1187882005.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <1187882266.6503.5.camel@celaeno> > $ uname -a > SunOS pluto 5.8 Generic_117350-46 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-2 > $ grep cert /var/sadm/install/contents | grep csw | grep thaw > $ > > well then ... that takes care of that Already done. Fixed packages are waiting in the newpkgs queue. Yann From dclarke at blastwave.org Thu Aug 23 20:44:37 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:44:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <1187882266.6503.5.camel@celaeno> References: <11491fa2054.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> <34402.72.39.216.186.1187880913.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <1187881823.6503.3.camel@celaeno> <34438.72.39.216.186.1187882005.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <1187882266.6503.5.camel@celaeno> Message-ID: <34747.72.39.216.186.1187894677.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > > >> $ uname -a >> SunOS pluto 5.8 Generic_117350-46 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-2 >> $ grep cert /var/sadm/install/contents | grep csw | grep thaw >> $ >> >> well then ... that takes care of that > > Already done. > Fixed packages are waiting in the newpkgs queue. testing ... The following files are already installed on the system and are being used by another package: * /opt/csw/ssl * - conflict with a file which does not belong to any package. Do you want to install these conflicting files [y,n,?,q] y ## Checking for setuid/setgid programs. Installing openssl_rt - Openssl runtime libraries as ## Installing part 1 of 1. /opt/csw/lib/engines/lib4758cca.so /opt/csw/lib/engines/libaep.so /opt/csw/lib/engines/libatalla.so /opt/csw/lib/engines/libchil.so /opt/csw/lib/engines/libcswift.so /opt/csw/lib/engines/libgmp.so /opt/csw/lib/engines/libnuron.so /opt/csw/lib/engines/libsureware.so /opt/csw/lib/engines/libubsec.so /opt/csw/lib/libcrypto.so /opt/csw/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7 /opt/csw/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8 /opt/csw/lib/libssl.so /opt/csw/lib/libssl.so.0.9.7 /opt/csw/lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 /opt/csw/lib/sparcv8plus+vis/libcrypto.so.0.9.7 /opt/csw/lib/sparcv8plus+vis/libcrypto.so.0.9.8 /opt/csw/lib/sparcv8plus+vis/libssl.so.0.9.7 /opt/csw/lib/sparcv8plus+vis/libssl.so.0.9.8 /opt/csw/lib/sparcv9/libcrypto.so /opt/csw/lib/sparcv9/libcrypto.so.0 /opt/csw/lib/sparcv9/libcrypto.so.0.9.7 /opt/csw/lib/sparcv9/libcrypto.so.0.9.8 /opt/csw/lib/sparcv9/libssl.so /opt/csw/lib/sparcv9/libssl.so.0 /opt/csw/lib/sparcv9/libssl.so.0.9.7 /opt/csw/lib/sparcv9/libssl.so.0.9.8 /opt/csw/share/doc/openssl_rt/changelog.CSW /opt/csw/ssl/certs/1e49180d.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/2edf7016.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/56e607f4.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/6adf0799.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/7651b327.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/7a9820c1.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/843b6c51.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/878cf4c6.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/RegTP-5R.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/RegTP-6R.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/a3c60019.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/aad3d04d.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/argena.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/argeng.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/c33a80d4.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/cdd7aee7.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/d4e39186.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/ddc328ff.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/demo/ca-cert.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/demo/dsa-ca.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/demo/dsa-pca.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/demo/nortelCA.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/demo/pca-cert.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/demo/timCA.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/demo/tjhCA.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/demo/vsigntca.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/eng1.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/eng2.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/eng3.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/eng4.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/eng5.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/expired/ICE-CA.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/expired/ICE-root.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/expired/ICE-user.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/expired/ICE.crl /opt/csw/ssl/certs/expired/RegTP-4R.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/expired/factory.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/expired/rsa-cca.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/expired/rsa-ssca.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/expired/vsign2.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/expired/vsign3.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/f73e89fd.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCp.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/vsign1.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/vsign3.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/vsignss.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/wellsfgo.pem [ verifying class ] Installation of was successful. # Dennis Clarke From dclarke at blastwave.org Thu Aug 23 20:56:50 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] New OpenSSH Message-ID: <34759.72.39.216.186.1187895410.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Okay .. I have tested this on Solaris 8 and 10 on Sparc and x86 and it seems to work just fine. One exception is that on Solaris 10 x86 I saw that the installation resulted in the Sun OpenSSH service still running at the same time that the CSW OpenSSH service was running. I think we do need to pick one and only one after install. This is even working on Solaris 8 sun4m : SPARCstation 20 MP (4 X RT625), No Keyboard ROM Rev. 2.25R hyperSPARC, 256 MB memory installed, Serial #3547448. Ethernet address 8:0:20:21:b3:39, Host ID: 72362138. Rebooting with command: Boot device: /iommu/sbus/espdma at f,400000/esp at f,800000/sd at 3,0 File and args: SunOS Release 5.8 Version Generic_117350-47 32-bit Copyright 1983-2003 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved. WARNING: forceload of misc/md_trans failed WARNING: forceload of misc/md_raid failed WARNING: forceload of misc/md_hotspares failed WARNING: forceload of misc/md_sp failed configuring IPv4 interfaces: qe0. Hostname: fossil The system is coming up. Please wait. checking ufs filesystems /dev/rdsk/c0t1d0s5: is clean. /dev/md/rdsk/d7: is logging. /dev/md/rdsk/d5: is logging. . . . etc etc and then from another machine $ ping fossil fossil is alive $ /opt/csw/bin/ssh -2 -4 -e\^ -l dclarke -c aes256-cbc -v fossil OpenSSH_4.6p1, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007 debug1: Reading configuration data /opt/csw/etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Connecting to fossil [192.168.35.251] port 22. debug1: Connection established. debug1: identity file /export/home/dclarke/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 debug1: identity file /export/home/dclarke/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_4.6 debug1: match: OpenSSH_4.6 pat OpenSSH* debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.6 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug1: kex: server->client aes256-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: kex: client->server aes256-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(1024<4096<8192) sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY debug1: Host 'fossil' is known and matches the RSA host key. debug1: Found key in /export/home/dclarke/.ssh/known_hosts:4 debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sun Microsystems Inc. SunOS 5.8 Generic Patch February 2004 Solaris 8 2/04 s28s_hw4wos_05a SPARC Copyright 2004 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Assembled 08 January 2004 SunOS fossil 5.8 Generic_117350-47 sun4m sparc SUNW,SPARCstation-20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password debug1: Next authentication method: publickey debug1: Trying private key: /export/home/dclarke/.ssh/id_rsa debug1: PEM_read_PrivateKey failed debug1: read PEM private key done: type Enter passphrase for key '/export/home/dclarke/.ssh/id_rsa': debug1: read PEM private key done: type RSA debug1: Authentication succeeded (publickey). debug1: channel 0: new [client-session] debug1: Entering interactive session. Last login: Thu Aug 23 14:44:20 2007 from pluto --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sun Microsystems Inc. SunOS 5.8 Generic Patch February 2004 Solaris 8 2/04 s28s_hw4wos_05a SPARC Copyright 2004 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Assembled 08 January 2004 SunOS fossil 5.8 Generic_117350-47 sun4m sparc SUNW,SPARCstation-20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- $ $ uname -a SunOS fossil 5.8 Generic_117350-47 sun4m sparc SUNW,SPARCstation-20 $ debug1: need rekeying debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug1: rekeying in progress debug1: rekeying in progress debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug1: kex: server->client aes256-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: kex: client->server aes256-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(1024<4096<8192) sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY debug1: Host 'pluto' is known and matches the RSA host key. debug1: Found key in /export/home/dclarke/.ssh/known_hosts:5 debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct debug1: set_newkeys: rekeying debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug1: set_newkeys: rekeying debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received $ Its not quick but it works even with aes256-cbc ciphers. then again ..nothing is quick on a Sparc 20. Except may be old 8-bit DOOM. - Dennis Clarke From schluting at gmail.com Sat Aug 25 01:20:37 2007 From: schluting at gmail.com (Charlie Schluting) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:20:37 -0700 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <34747.72.39.216.186.1187894677.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <11491fa2054.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> <34402.72.39.216.186.1187880913.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <1187881823.6503.3.camel@celaeno> <34438.72.39.216.186.1187882005.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <1187882266.6503.5.camel@celaeno> <34747.72.39.216.186.1187894677.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <839465400708241620r6374d61y943ee7634c0d5186@mail.gmail.com> On 8/23/07, Dennis Clarke wrote: > > Installation of was successful. Yep, and everything else works again for me too. Very strange.. From zizban at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 21:38:09 2007 From: zizban at gmail.com (Chris Turkel) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:38:09 -0400 Subject: [csw-users] pkg-get directory Message-ID: Since the default /var directory tends to fill up fast for me, what would be a better directory? I was thinking of /home/user/pkg-get/downloads/. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.blastwave.org/pipermail/users/attachments/20070829/82794c03/attachment.html From jeremiah.johnson at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 21:44:10 2007 From: jeremiah.johnson at gmail.com (Jeremiah Johnson) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:44:10 -0500 Subject: [csw-users] pkg-get directory In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EB270A9-0F59-4BDD-9BDE-057F3AF7E944@gmail.com> How about a shared nfs space? -Jeremiah Johnson Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2007, at 2:38 PM, "Chris Turkel" wrote: > Since the default /var directory tends to fill up fast for me, what > would be a better directory? I was thinking of /home/user/pkg-get/ > downloads/. > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users at lists.blastwave.org > https://lists.blastwave.org/mailman/listinfo/users From William.Fennell at channing.harvard.edu Fri Aug 31 17:57:18 2007 From: William.Fennell at channing.harvard.edu (William M. Fennell) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:57:18 -0400 Subject: [csw-users] New Package? Message-ID: <46D83A5E.9050605@channing.harvard.edu> Hi, Is this the list to request somebody add a package to the blastwave distribution? Thanks, Bill -- -------------------- William M. Fennell, SCSA Senior Unix System Administrator Channing Laboratory From shuttlebox at gmail.com Fri Aug 31 18:02:05 2007 From: shuttlebox at gmail.com (shuttlebox) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:02:05 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] New Package? In-Reply-To: <46D83A5E.9050605@channing.harvard.edu> References: <46D83A5E.9050605@channing.harvard.edu> Message-ID: <625385e30708310902i1a471ce2sbce7f331b40c36a4@mail.gmail.com> On 8/31/07, William M. Fennell wrote: > Hi, > > Is this the list to request somebody add a package to the blastwave > distribution? I guess that's fine but there's also a package request web page: http://www.blastwave.org/pkgreq.php -- /peter From William.Fennell at channing.harvard.edu Fri Aug 31 18:04:24 2007 From: William.Fennell at channing.harvard.edu (William M. Fennell) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:04:24 -0400 Subject: [csw-users] New Package? In-Reply-To: <625385e30708310902i1a471ce2sbce7f331b40c36a4@mail.gmail.com> References: <46D83A5E.9050605@channing.harvard.edu> <625385e30708310902i1a471ce2sbce7f331b40c36a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46D83C08.4090700@channing.harvard.edu> shuttlebox wrote: > On 8/31/07, William M. Fennell wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Is this the list to request somebody add a package to the blastwave >> distribution? >> > > I guess that's fine but there's also a package request web page: > > http://www.blastwave.org/pkgreq.php > > Thanks! That's just what I needed. Bill -------------------- William M. Fennell, SCSA Senior Unix System Administrator Channing Laboratory From dclarke at blastwave.org Fri Aug 31 18:23:03 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:23:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] New Package? In-Reply-To: <46D83C08.4090700@channing.harvard.edu> References: <46D83A5E.9050605@channing.harvard.edu> <625385e30708310902i1a471ce2sbce7f331b40c36a4@mail.gmail.com> <46D83C08.4090700@channing.harvard.edu> Message-ID: <2107.72.39.216.186.1188577383.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > > > shuttlebox wrote: >> On 8/31/07, William M. Fennell >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Is this the list to request somebody add a package to the blastwave >>> distribution? >>> >> >> I guess that's fine but there's also a package request web page: >> >> http://www.blastwave.org/pkgreq.php >> >> > Thanks! That's just what I needed. >[what software, WHAT DOES IT DO, and where is the source code?] >It is an open source version of the S language. >The latest source is here: >http://cran.cnr.berkeley.edu/src/base/R-2/R-2.5.1.tar.gz I'm very curious about this. I was looking at building an open source implementation of Pascal after I get a few other things done and now I see this thing. The "S" language? Do we have a programming language for every letter of the alphabet now? :-) The old motto was that if it can't be done with Fortran then it isn't worth doing. A few years earlier we used to say "If it can't be done with assembly language then it can't be done at all." Guess I'm showing my age there. Dennis From William.Fennell at channing.harvard.edu Fri Aug 31 18:29:40 2007 From: William.Fennell at channing.harvard.edu (William M. Fennell) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:29:40 -0400 Subject: [csw-users] New Package? In-Reply-To: <2107.72.39.216.186.1188577383.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <46D83A5E.9050605@channing.harvard.edu> <625385e30708310902i1a471ce2sbce7f331b40c36a4@mail.gmail.com> <46D83C08.4090700@channing.harvard.edu> <2107.72.39.216.186.1188577383.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <46D841F4.5090301@channing.harvard.edu> Dennis Clarke wrote: >> shuttlebox wrote: >> >>> On 8/31/07, William M. Fennell >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Is this the list to request somebody add a package to the blastwave >>>> distribution? >>>> >>>> >>> I guess that's fine but there's also a package request web page: >>> >>> http://www.blastwave.org/pkgreq.php >>> >>> >>> >> Thanks! That's just what I needed. >> > > >> [what software, WHAT DOES IT DO, and where is the source code?] >> > > >> It is an open source version of the S language. >> The latest source is here: >> http://cran.cnr.berkeley.edu/src/base/R-2/R-2.5.1.tar.gz >> > > I'm very curious about this. I was looking at building an open source > implementation of Pascal after I get a few other things done and now I see > this thing. The "S" language? Do we have a programming language for every > letter of the alphabet now? :-) > > The old motto was that if it can't be done with Fortran then it isn't worth > doing. A few years earlier we used to say "If it can't be done with > assembly language then it can't be done at all." > > Guess I'm showing my age there. > > Dennis > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users at lists.blastwave.org > https://lists.blastwave.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Hi, This site is their FAQ. http://cran.r-project.org/faqs.html Bill -------------------- William M. Fennell, SCSA Senior Unix System Administrator Channing Laboratory From dclarke at blastwave.org Fri Aug 31 18:51:18 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] New Package? In-Reply-To: <46D841F4.5090301@channing.harvard.edu> References: <46D83A5E.9050605@channing.harvard.edu> <625385e30708310902i1a471ce2sbce7f331b40c36a4@mail.gmail.com> <46D83C08.4090700@channing.harvard.edu> <2107.72.39.216.186.1188577383.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46D841F4.5090301@channing.harvard.edu> Message-ID: <2127.72.39.216.186.1188579078.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > > > Dennis Clarke wrote: >>> shuttlebox wrote: >>> >>>> On 8/31/07, William M. Fennell >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Is this the list to request somebody add a package to the blastwave >>>>> distribution? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I guess that's fine but there's also a package request web page: >>>> >>>> http://www.blastwave.org/pkgreq.php >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Thanks! That's just what I needed. >>> >> >> >>> [what software, WHAT DOES IT DO, and where is the source code?] >>> >> >> >>> It is an open source version of the S language. >>> The latest source is here: >>> http://cran.cnr.berkeley.edu/src/base/R-2/R-2.5.1.tar.gz >>> > > This site is their FAQ. http://cran.r-project.org/faqs.html The S language FAQ talks about "R" ? It says : R has three collections of answers to frequently asked questions: so .. if I get an hour or two to look at it .. I'll look at it. Dennis From ml at eroteme.org Wed Aug 1 13:41:56 2007 From: ml at eroteme.org (S. Hakim Hamdani [ML]) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 13:41:56 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] New packages request: dvd::rip and avidemux2 Message-ID: <20070801134156.000025d3@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> Hi there, was wondering if anyone had ever attempted ports of these two nifty pieces of software: http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/ http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/ Looking through current packages, I think most of the dependencies are filled. Many thanks, should someone decide to take it upon themselves to package these! Best regards, Hakim -- S. Hakim Hamdani [ML] / Eroteme.org From ml at eroteme.org Wed Aug 1 15:23:30 2007 From: ml at eroteme.org (S. Hakim Hamdani [ML]) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 15:23:30 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] CUPS error: unsupported format 'application/postscript'! Message-ID: <20070801152330.00006f7e@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> Hello, [hhamdani at asagao-jkk ~]$ pkg-get -c | grep cups cups 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME cupsclient 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME cupsd 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME cupsdev 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME cupsdoc 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME libcups 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME libgnomecups 0.2.2 SAME Whenever I try to print I get errors along the lines of: "Error: Unsupported format 'application/postscript'!" I have edited my /opt/csw/etc/cups/mime.convs file and uncommented the line for the raw filter and also the one further up with 'pstoraster' in it (which incidentally does not exist on my system). Have restarted cupsd, but the error persists. Can anyone advise on what to do? I've looked far and wide on the net and the only thing I found was related to the mime.convs file. I'd very much like to be able to print. Printer is a HP LaserJet 5SiNX by the way, configuration for the printer is copied from one of my linux hosts, from which printing works fine. Thanks for any help, Hakim -- S. Hakim Hamdani [ML] / Eroteme.org From brian.gupta at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 15:29:19 2007 From: brian.gupta at gmail.com (Brian Gupta) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:29:19 -0400 Subject: [csw-users] scsh. Any interest? Message-ID: <5b5090780708010629t4d8844f5p84d4217479562543@mail.gmail.com> Does anyone have interest in this other than myself? -Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ml at eroteme.org Wed Aug 1 16:14:22 2007 From: ml at eroteme.org (S. Hakim Hamdani [ML]) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:14:22 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Sudden pkg-get issues... no upgrades possible... Message-ID: <20070801161422.00006812@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> Hi all, just updated my local blastwave archive via rsync, then updated the catalog file by doing pkg-get -U. All good. So I wanted to go about my usual updating... But when doing pkg-get -u I get this: [root at asagao-jkk 5.11]$ pkg-get -u ... ... orbit2 is up to date newer_rev: fell off end of compare routine! Dont know how to compare ascii strings ',rev=e' '' WARNING: remote version older than current version. Not installing remote package of openssl_utils (remote=0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e, local=0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22) newer_rev: fell off end of compare routine! Dont know how to compare ascii strings ',rev=e' '' WARNING: remote version older than current version. Not installing remote package of openssl_rt (remote=0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e, local=0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22) newer_rev: fell off end of compare routine! Dont know how to compare ascii strings ',rev=e' '' WARNING: remote version older than current version. Not installing remote package of openssl_devel (remote=0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e, local=0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22) newer_rev: fell off end of compare routine! Dont know how to compare ascii strings ',rev=e' '' WARNING: remote version older than current version. Not installing remote package of openssl (remote=0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e, local=0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22) openldap_rt is up to date ... ... fortune is up to date No existing install of CSWforemost found. Installing... Trying file:///export/home/hhamdani/pub/blw//i386/5.11/foremost-1.4,REV=2007.07.23-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz The following package is currently installed: CSWforemost/opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[2]: 2551 Segmentation Fault(coredump) Alas: [root at asagao-jkk pkg-get]$ which foremost /opt/csw/bin/foremost [root at asagao-jkk pkg-get]$ pkg-get -c | grep foremost foremost 1.4,REV=2007.07.23 Also: [root at asagao-jkk ~]$ pkg-get -c | grep ssl openssl 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e openssl_devel 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e openssl_rt 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e openssl_utils 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e And: [hhamdani at asagao-jkk /]$ cat /var/pkg-get/catalog-export | grep ssl openssl 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e CSWossl openssl-0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e-SunOS5.8-all-CSW.pkg.gz ffd3173278df2ce8d8cdaa5c45c7ced5 openssl_devel 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e CSWossldevel openssl_devel-0.9.8,REV=20 07.07.22,rev=e-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz 87b5c4e1dd392d301e783a15736eb20c openssl_rt 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e CSWosslrt openssl_rt-0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22, rev=e-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz 62912c639b3b30b25b52f8591cf8a930 openssl_utils 0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e CSWosslutils openssl_utils-0.9.8,REV=20 07.07.22,rev=e-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz 83889ad8215c88e79384f824d5a8f5f6 [hhamdani at asagao-jkk /]$ cat /var/pkg-get/catalog-export | grep foremost foremost 1.4,REV=2007.07.23 CSWforemost foremost-1.4,REV=2007.07.23-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz 14d6b6664f6c554cf30246e8b3b6fa0d And lastly: [hhamdani at asagao-jkk ~]$ ls -l pub/blw/i386/5.11/ | grep ssl -rw-r--r-- 1 hhamdani staff 3182 Jul 31 17:08 openssl-0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e-SunOS5.8-all-CSW.pkg.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 hhamdani staff 3434014 Jul 31 17:09 openssl_devel-0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 hhamdani staff 3708099 Jul 31 17:09 openssl_rt-0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 hhamdani staff 277766 Jul 31 17:09 openssl_utils-0.9.8,REV=2007.07.22,rev=e-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz [hhamdani at asagao-jkk ~]$ ls -l pub/blw/i386/5.11/ | grep foremost -rw-r--r-- 1 hhamdani staff 39323 Jul 23 16:37 foremost-1.4,REV=2007.07.23-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz So, two issues really; pkg-get doesn't seem to handle the new openssl packages properly because of a naming issue. foremost is installed, but pkg-get seems to have forgotten about that. Can anyone advise on what to do? Thanks, Hakim -- S. Hakim Hamdani [ML] / Eroteme.org From ml at eroteme.org Wed Aug 1 16:40:58 2007 From: ml at eroteme.org (S. Hakim Hamdani [ML]) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:40:58 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] sudden pkg-get issues... upgrades not possible... Message-ID: <20070801164058.0000372f@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> Well, here's an update: By doing pkg-get -uS I was able to get it to install the newer openssl packages. However it still coredumps on foremost. I went into /var/sadm/pkg/ to check the contents of the CSWforemost directory, and well, all looks fine, except that the file install/preremove was a binary file and different from the one in save/pspool/CSWforemost/install/preremove. Replacing the former with the latter made no difference, it still coredumps. I then moved CSWforemost to oldCSWforemost and was at least able to do a successful pkg-get -u. Still, even when trying to manually do a pkgrm CSWforemost (or now: pkgrm oldCSWforemost), pkgrm coredumps. I wasn't able to coax any information from pkg-get with the -v option either, am at a bit of a loss as to how to fix this issue... Any tips appreciated. Thanks, Hakim -- S. Hakim Hamdani [ML] / Eroteme.org From ml at eroteme.org Wed Aug 1 16:54:38 2007 From: ml at eroteme.org (S. Hakim Hamdani [ML]) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:54:38 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] sudden pkg-get issues... updates not possible... Message-ID: <20070801165438.00001151@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> Hello again, managed to solve the issue after some more digging: For some reason both the pkginfo and the preremove script in /var/sadm/pkg/oldCSWforemost were corrupted, I installed foremost again, copied the files over from /var/sadm/pkg/CSWforemost, removed both CSWforemost and oldCSWforemost with pkgrm and then reinstalled with pkg-get -i foremost. All works fine now. Many thanks in any case for looking. Hakim -- S. Hakim Hamdani [ML] / Eroteme.org From james at blastwave.org Wed Aug 1 15:36:38 2007 From: james at blastwave.org (James Lee) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:36:38 GMT Subject: [csw-users] CUPS error: unsupported format 'application/postscript'! In-Reply-To: <20070801152330.00006f7e@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> References: <20070801152330.00006f7e@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> Message-ID: <20070801.13363800.1378073977@gyor.oxdrove.co.uk> On 01/08/07, 14:23:30, "S." Hakim Hamdani "[ML]" wrote regarding [csw-users] CUPS error: unsupported format 'application/postscript'!: > [hhamdani at asagao-jkk ~]$ pkg-get -c | grep cups > cups 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME > cupsclient 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME > cupsd 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME > cupsdev 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME > cupsdoc 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME > libcups 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME > libgnomecups 0.2.2 SAME > Whenever I try to print I get errors along the lines of: > "Error: Unsupported format 'application/postscript'!" $ pkg-get -c $(pkg-get -D | grep -i cups | awk '{print $1}') It might be espgs you need. James. From ml at eroteme.org Mon Aug 6 16:28:19 2007 From: ml at eroteme.org (S. Hakim Hamdani [ML]) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:28:19 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] CUPS error: unsupported format 'application/postscript'! Message-ID: <20070806162819.00006818@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> James, > $ pkg-get -c $(pkg-get -D | grep -i cups | awk '{print $1}') > It might be espgs you need. [root at asagao-jkk ~]$ pkg-get -c $(pkg-get -D | grep -i cups | awk '{print $1}') # (From site file:///export/home/hhamdani/pub/blw/ ) software localrev remoterev cups 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME cupsclient 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME cupsd 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME cupsdev 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME cupsdoc 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME espgs [Not installed] 8.15.4 gtklp [Not installed] 1.2.4 libcups 1.2.7,REV=2007.01.22 SAME libgnomecups 0.2.2 SAME xpp 1.5,REV=2006.02.28 SAME So I went ahead and installed espgs... how come that's not a dependency, btw? Changed papersize to A4, and trying to print some stuff, still same error. Rebooted the machine, relogged into the CUPS web interface, trying to print test page, now I have a "quota limit reached" error... Google'd a bit, set allowed users to my own login and root. Test page from CUPS web interface: works spadmin test page : doesn't work, typical OpenOffice 2 printing : doesn't work, also typical lp from shell, txt file : works lp from shell, pdf file : works Firefox, web page printing : works Excellent, many thanks! I don't mind not being able to print from OOo, I always export as pdf and just lp it from shell. Cheers, Hakim -- S. Hakim Hamdani [ML] / Eroteme.org From james at blastwave.org Mon Aug 6 17:18:20 2007 From: james at blastwave.org (James Lee) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:18:20 GMT Subject: [csw-users] CUPS error: unsupported format 'application/postscript'! In-Reply-To: <20070806162819.00006818@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> References: <20070806162819.00006818@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> Message-ID: <20070806.15182000.2551227663@gyor.oxdrove.co.uk> On 06/08/07, 15:28:19, "S." Hakim Hamdani "[ML]" wrote regarding [csw-users] CUPS error: unsupported format 'application/postscript'!: > So I went ahead and installed espgs... how come that's not a > dependency, btw? Because you can use CUPS with a Postscript printer? > Test page from CUPS web interface: works > spadmin test page : doesn't work, typical > OpenOffice 2 printing : doesn't work, also typical It just calls lp. Look at the "command" setting of spadmin, so it should work. > lp from shell, txt file : works > lp from shell, pdf file : works > Firefox, web page printing : works > Excellent, many thanks! > I don't mind not being able to print from OOo, I always export as pdf "Print to file" and lp the Postscript. James. From trygvis at inamo.no Tue Aug 7 20:17:36 2007 From: trygvis at inamo.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trygve_Laugst=F8l?=) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:17:36 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Openssl package split In-Reply-To: <46A8DB50.1030504@jouy.inra.fr> References: <46A78861.8000609@jouy.inra.fr> <46A86EC7.6040504@inamo.no> <46A8DB50.1030504@jouy.inra.fr> Message-ID: <46B8B740.1090609@inamo.no> Yann Rouillard wrote: > Trygve Laugst?l a ?crit : >> Yann Rouillard wrote: >>> A new openssl package will soon be available from the mirror sites. >>> No new openssl version, but some modifications in the packaging layout, >>> the openssl has been split into the following three packages: >>> >>> openssl_rt - provides runtime libraries >>> openssl_devel - provides headers and static libraries >>> openssl_utils - provides openssl binaries and scripts (openssl, >>> c_rehash, CA.pl, ...) >> I find calling packages "foo_rt" confusing. As a _user_ of blastwave I >> would like to get "OpenSSL" and thus I should pkg-get install the >> "openssl" package. I've seen this pattern a few places and is still >> confused. > > You can still "pkg-get install openssl", it will install the 3 packages. > > I will not change that package layout now but what would you propose > instead ? (Sorry for not replying earlier, it slipped my mind) I know that this is not the normal blastwave layout, but something like this: openssl: binaries and utilities that I as a user would use. libopenssl: the runtime libraries. openssl would depend on this. Other packages should depend on this if they need openssl. openssl-dev: headers and static libraries. Other packages would need this to compile against openssl. This is similar to how Debian does: http://packages.debian.org/stable/oldlibs/libssl0.9.7 http://packages.debian.org/stable/libdevel/libssl-dev http://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/openssl (Please don't take that I'm comparing this to a Linux distro this the wrong way, but I do feel that they have gotten a lot of things right) -- Trygve From trygvis at inamo.no Tue Aug 7 20:22:55 2007 From: trygvis at inamo.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trygve_Laugst=F8l?=) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:22:55 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> Message-ID: <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> Trygve Laugst?l wrote: > Hi > > I've packaged ncmpc[1] and I'd like to submit it to Blastwave. I tried > to sign up as a maintainer but was rejected but I still hope that some > existing maintainer would like to commit it on my behalf. I will try to > maintain it in the future by sending in patches. > > I doubt the package is in perfect shape for blastwave so any comments on > the details on how to package stuff would be appreciated. > > [1]: http://hem.bredband.net/kaw/ncmpc/ No takers? No feed back or comments? I've packaged mpd [1] and mailman [2] as well, but I guess they're as interesting as ncmpc... Is blastwave a regular open source project or just some people pretending to be open? [1]: the server that ncmpc connects to [2]: The software behind this very mailing list: http://list.org -- Trygve From dclarke at blastwave.org Tue Aug 7 21:05:06 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 15:05:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> Message-ID: <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > Trygve Laugst?l wrote: >> Hi >> >> I've packaged ncmpc[1] and I'd like to submit it to Blastwave. I tried >> to sign up as a maintainer but was rejected but I still hope that some >> existing maintainer would like to commit it on my behalf. I will try to >> maintain it in the future by sending in patches. >> >> I doubt the package is in perfect shape for blastwave so any comments on >> the details on how to package stuff would be appreciated. >> >> [1]: http://hem.bredband.net/kaw/ncmpc/ > > No takers? No feed back or comments? I've packaged mpd [1] and mailman > [2] as well, but I guess they're as interesting as ncmpc... > > Is blastwave a regular open source project or just some people > pretending to be open? hey . .slow down there ... we are working like mad here. you didn't get a response right away possibly foir many reasons not the least of which is that its summer and I am up to my ears in many things as are other people ... and people may not have even looked there yet ! Dennis Clarke From trygvis at inamo.no Wed Aug 8 08:44:48 2007 From: trygvis at inamo.no (=?UTF-8?B?VHJ5Z3ZlIExhdWdzdMO4bA==?=) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 08:44:48 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> Dennis Clarke wrote: >> Trygve Laugst?l wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> I've packaged ncmpc[1] and I'd like to submit it to Blastwave. I tried >>> to sign up as a maintainer but was rejected but I still hope that some >>> existing maintainer would like to commit it on my behalf. I will try to >>> maintain it in the future by sending in patches. >>> >>> I doubt the package is in perfect shape for blastwave so any comments on >>> the details on how to package stuff would be appreciated. >>> >>> [1]: http://hem.bredband.net/kaw/ncmpc/ >> No takers? No feed back or comments? I've packaged mpd [1] and mailman >> [2] as well, but I guess they're as interesting as ncmpc... >> >> Is blastwave a regular open source project or just some people >> pretending to be open? > > hey . .slow down there ... we are working like mad here. Ok, sorry. I was (or am) a bit annoyed that I didn't get a single response, even if it was to say that "we're busy". > you didn't get a response right away possibly foir many reasons > > not the least of which is that its summer and I am up to my ears in many > things as are other people ... > > and > > people may not have even looked there yet ! How long should I expect to wait? Honestly, I know it is summer and all but you can't expect me to stay around for ever either. The most important thing to me is that I have somewhere to put my packages so I know that my work won't be lost. I wouldn't mind it if someone would commit my packages for me, I'm not demanding to become a maintainer straight away. -- Trygve From khfp.blastwave0704 at gmx.de Wed Aug 8 09:58:05 2007 From: khfp.blastwave0704 at gmx.de (Klaus Heinz) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:58:05 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> Message-ID: <20070808075805.65250@gmx.net> "Trygve Laugst?l" wrote: > The most important thing to me is that I have somewhere to put my > packages so I know that my work won't be lost. I wouldn't mind it if > someone would commit my packages for me, I'm not demanding to become a > maintainer straight away. The single comment I got back in April indicated that it is not possible to submit packages _without_ the willingness to maintain them. Klaus -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser From a.cervellin at acm.org Wed Aug 8 10:01:52 2007 From: a.cervellin at acm.org (Alessio) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 10:01:52 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> Message-ID: <46B97870.8060103@acm.org> Trygve Laugst?l wrote: > Ok, sorry. I was (or am) a bit annoyed that I didn't get a single > response, even if it was to say that "we're busy". you didn't know, but your mail has been also forwarded to the private of the maintainers mailing list to discuss about that... so you didn't get ignored > How long should I expect to wait? well, the 1st prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is patience, because it's an hard work, without any retribution and with many users which keep asking many things... > you can't expect me to stay around for ever either. well, the 2nd prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is the willingness to stay around for as long time as possibile, since there are already too many abandoned packages... > The most important thing to me is that I have somewhere to put my > packages so I know that my work won't be lost. I wouldn't mind it if > someone would commit my packages for me, I'm not demanding to become a > maintainer straight away. nobody will commit your packages, because this is not how blastwave packages submission process works: 1) you have to signup as maintainer, possibly for more than 1 package. Remember: a maintainer is someone who has a lot of spare time, is willing to maintain his packages for more than 1 year, and daily uses them for personal or professional purposes 2) you have to wait for a response 3) you'll have to signup again if nobody answers you (and there are many reasons this could happen) 4) if someone will answer you, then you'll have to prove you are really willing to be a maintainer (but only Phil knows how) and possibly you've to provide a "bombastic" email address 5) you'll get access to the blastwave build machines: only there you can build your packages, following exactly the guidelines [1] 6) once a package has bee built, you have to submit it to the other maintainers for testing and QA 7) finally, the package will be submitted in the unstable catalog 8) after N months, if the package does not receive any major bug report on mantis, it will be automatically submitted to the stable catalog Love it or hate it, this is blastwave. -- [1] http://www.blastwave.org/standards/ From trygvis at inamo.no Wed Aug 8 11:57:16 2007 From: trygvis at inamo.no (=?UTF-8?B?VHJ5Z3ZlIExhdWdzdMO4bA==?=) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:57:16 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <46B97870.8060103@acm.org> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> <46B97870.8060103@acm.org> Message-ID: <46B9937C.7030408@inamo.no> Alessio wrote: > Trygve Laugst?l wrote: > >> Ok, sorry. I was (or am) a bit annoyed that I didn't get a single >> response, even if it was to say that "we're busy". > > you didn't know, but your mail has been also forwarded to the private of > the maintainers mailing list to discuss about that... so you didn't get > ignored > >> How long should I expect to wait? > > well, the 1st prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is patience, > because it's an hard work, without any retribution and with many users > which keep asking many things... I am well aware of the requirements and I am ready to commit time to maintain the packages. I already dedicate lot of time to open source project and know how stuff work. >> you can't expect me to stay around for ever either. > > well, the 2nd prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is the > willingness to stay around for as long time as possibile, since there > are already too many abandoned packages... I meant before getting any response. >> The most important thing to me is that I have somewhere to put my >> packages so I know that my work won't be lost. I wouldn't mind it if >> someone would commit my packages for me, I'm not demanding to become a >> maintainer straight away. > > nobody will commit your packages, because this is not how blastwave > packages submission process works: Perfectly fine, it was just a suggestion from my side. > 1) you have to signup as maintainer, possibly for more than 1 package. > Remember: a maintainer is someone who has a lot of spare time, is > willing to maintain his packages for more than 1 year, and daily uses > them for personal or professional purposes > 2) you have to wait for a response > 3) you'll have > to signup again if nobody answers you (and there are many reasons this > could happen) > 4) if someone will answer you, then you'll have to prove you are really > willing to be a maintainer (but only Phil knows how) and possibly you've > to provide a "bombastic" email address I've done this part but it stopped after Phil didn't want to accept any of the means of identification [1] I could provide and didn't come back to me when I asked for alternate means. > 5) you'll get access to the blastwave build machines: only there you can > build your packages, following exactly the guidelines [1] > 6) once a package has bee built, you have to submit it to the other > maintainers for testing and QA > 7) finally, the package will be submitted in the unstable catalog > 8) after N months, if the package does not receive any major bug report > on mantis, it will be automatically submitted to the stable catalog This seem like a pretty normal operating procedure to me and I am ready to commit to them (as I've said before). > Love it or hate it, this is blastwave. Just give me the chance to love it :) I just want to contribute back some work after all I've gotten from blastwave. [1]: faxed in signed copy of passport (which was good enough for Apache), an email from my apache.org acount. -- Trygve From dclarke at blastwave.org Wed Aug 8 19:03:16 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:03:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <46B97870.8060103@acm.org> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> <46B97870.8060103@acm.org> Message-ID: <53364.72.39.216.186.1186592596.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > Trygve Laugst??l wrote: > >> Ok, sorry. I was (or am) a bit annoyed that I didn't get a single >> response, even if it was to say that "we're busy". > > you didn't know, but your mail has been also forwarded to the private of > the maintainers mailing list to discuss about that... so you didn't get > ignored > >> How long should I expect to wait? > > well, the 1st prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is patience, > because it's an hard work, without any retribution and with many users > which keep asking many things... > >> you can't expect me to stay around for ever either. > > well, the 2nd prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is the > willingness to stay around for as long time as possibile, since there > are already too many abandoned packages... > >> The most important thing to me is that I have somewhere to put my >> packages so I know that my work won't be lost. I wouldn't mind it if >> someone would commit my packages for me, I'm not demanding to become a >> maintainer straight away. > > nobody will commit your packages, because this is not how blastwave > packages submission process works: > 1) you have to signup as maintainer, possibly for more than 1 package. > Remember: a maintainer is someone who has a lot of spare time, is > willing to maintain his packages for more than 1 year, and daily uses > them for personal or professional purposes > 2) you have to wait for a response > 3) you'll have > to signup again if nobody answers you (and there are many reasons this > could happen) > 4) if someone will answer you, then you'll have to prove you are really > willing to be a maintainer (but only Phil knows how) and possibly you've > to provide a "bombastic" email address > 5) you'll get access to the blastwave build machines: only there you can > build your packages, following exactly the guidelines [1] > 6) once a package has bee built, you have to submit it to the other > maintainers for testing and QA > 7) finally, the package will be submitted in the unstable catalog > 8) after N months, if the package does not receive any major bug report > on mantis, it will be automatically submitted to the stable catalog > > Love it or hate it, this is blastwave. Please allow me to add one last point. 9) things have worked like this year after year after year and it may be conservative, somewhat self critical and overly careful * but it works * We have been discussing the issues behind closed doors for some time now and we will probably come up with a way to accomodate people better. If we can. Dennis Clarke From trygvis at inamo.no Wed Aug 8 19:48:33 2007 From: trygvis at inamo.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trygve_Laugst=F8l?=) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:48:33 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <53364.72.39.216.186.1186592596.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> <46B97870.8060103@acm.org> <53364.72.39.216.186.1186592596.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <46BA01F1.80106@inamo.no> Dennis Clarke wrote: >> Trygve Laugst??l wrote: >> >>> Ok, sorry. I was (or am) a bit annoyed that I didn't get a single >>> response, even if it was to say that "we're busy". >> you didn't know, but your mail has been also forwarded to the private of >> the maintainers mailing list to discuss about that... so you didn't get >> ignored >> >>> How long should I expect to wait? >> well, the 1st prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is patience, >> because it's an hard work, without any retribution and with many users >> which keep asking many things... >> >>> you can't expect me to stay around for ever either. >> well, the 2nd prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is the >> willingness to stay around for as long time as possibile, since there >> are already too many abandoned packages... >> >>> The most important thing to me is that I have somewhere to put my >>> packages so I know that my work won't be lost. I wouldn't mind it if >>> someone would commit my packages for me, I'm not demanding to become a >>> maintainer straight away. >> nobody will commit your packages, because this is not how blastwave >> packages submission process works: >> 1) you have to signup as maintainer, possibly for more than 1 package. >> Remember: a maintainer is someone who has a lot of spare time, is >> willing to maintain his packages for more than 1 year, and daily uses >> them for personal or professional purposes >> 2) you have to wait for a response >> 3) you'll have >> to signup again if nobody answers you (and there are many reasons this >> could happen) >> 4) if someone will answer you, then you'll have to prove you are really >> willing to be a maintainer (but only Phil knows how) and possibly you've >> to provide a "bombastic" email address >> 5) you'll get access to the blastwave build machines: only there you can >> build your packages, following exactly the guidelines [1] >> 6) once a package has bee built, you have to submit it to the other >> maintainers for testing and QA >> 7) finally, the package will be submitted in the unstable catalog >> 8) after N months, if the package does not receive any major bug report >> on mantis, it will be automatically submitted to the stable catalog >> >> Love it or hate it, this is blastwave. > > Please allow me to add one last point. > > 9) things have worked like this year after year after year and it may > be conservative, somewhat self critical and overly careful > > * but it works * > > We have been discussing the issues behind closed doors for some time now and > we will probably come up with a way to accomodate people better. If we can. Just by doing more stuff in public (like Sun is trying to) would be super great for people trying to get involved. Sometimes people would like to contribute more than actual packages, like documentation, plain testing or hardware. Currently that is something that is hard at blastwave as "getting in touch" seem hard (it might not be the case, but it is not as inviting as other organizations). -- Trygve From trygvis at inamo.no Wed Aug 8 22:47:48 2007 From: trygvis at inamo.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trygve_Laugst=F8l?=) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:47:48 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <46BA01F1.80106@inamo.no> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> <46B97870.8060103@acm.org> <53364.72.39.216.186.1186592596.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46BA01F1.80106@inamo.no> Message-ID: <46BA2BF4.902@inamo.no> Trygve Laugst?l wrote: > Dennis Clarke wrote: >>> Trygve Laugst??l wrote: >>> >>>> Ok, sorry. I was (or am) a bit annoyed that I didn't get a single >>>> response, even if it was to say that "we're busy". >>> you didn't know, but your mail has been also forwarded to the private of >>> the maintainers mailing list to discuss about that... so you didn't get >>> ignored >>> >>>> How long should I expect to wait? >>> well, the 1st prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is patience, >>> because it's an hard work, without any retribution and with many users >>> which keep asking many things... >>> >>>> you can't expect me to stay around for ever either. >>> well, the 2nd prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is the >>> willingness to stay around for as long time as possibile, since there >>> are already too many abandoned packages... >>> >>>> The most important thing to me is that I have somewhere to put my >>>> packages so I know that my work won't be lost. I wouldn't mind it if >>>> someone would commit my packages for me, I'm not demanding to become a >>>> maintainer straight away. >>> nobody will commit your packages, because this is not how blastwave >>> packages submission process works: >>> 1) you have to signup as maintainer, possibly for more than 1 package. >>> Remember: a maintainer is someone who has a lot of spare time, is >>> willing to maintain his packages for more than 1 year, and daily uses >>> them for personal or professional purposes >>> 2) you have to wait for a response >>> 3) you'll have >>> to signup again if nobody answers you (and there are many reasons this >>> could happen) >>> 4) if someone will answer you, then you'll have to prove you are really >>> willing to be a maintainer (but only Phil knows how) and possibly you've >>> to provide a "bombastic" email address >>> 5) you'll get access to the blastwave build machines: only there you can >>> build your packages, following exactly the guidelines [1] >>> 6) once a package has bee built, you have to submit it to the other >>> maintainers for testing and QA >>> 7) finally, the package will be submitted in the unstable catalog >>> 8) after N months, if the package does not receive any major bug report >>> on mantis, it will be automatically submitted to the stable catalog >>> >>> Love it or hate it, this is blastwave. >> Please allow me to add one last point. >> >> 9) things have worked like this year after year after year and it may >> be conservative, somewhat self critical and overly careful >> >> * but it works * >> >> We have been discussing the issues behind closed doors for some time now and >> we will probably come up with a way to accomodate people better. If we can. > > Just by doing more stuff in public (like Sun is trying to) would be > super great for people trying to get involved. Sometimes people would > like to contribute more than actual packages, like documentation, plain > testing or hardware. Currently that is something that is hard at > blastwave as "getting in touch" seem hard (it might not be the case, but > it is not as inviting as other organizations). That said, there are of course many reasons to have private lists, but it is a matter of which list the message should go to by default. -- Trygve From dclarke at blastwave.org Wed Aug 8 23:00:51 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 17:00:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <46BA2BF4.902@inamo.no> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> <46B97870.8060103@acm.org> <53364.72.39.216.186.1186592596.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46BA01F1.80106@inamo.no> <46BA2BF4.902@inamo.no> Message-ID: <53570.72.39.216.186.1186606851.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > Trygve Laugst?l wrote: >> Dennis Clarke wrote: >>>> Trygve Laugst??l wrote: >>>> >>>> Love it or hate it, this is blastwave. >>> Please allow me to add one last point. >>> >>> 9) things have worked like this year after year after year and it may >>> be conservative, somewhat self critical and overly careful >>> >>> * but it works * >>> >>> We have been discussing the issues behind closed doors for some time now >>> and >>> we will probably come up with a way to accomodate people better. If we >>> can. >> >> Just by doing more stuff in public (like Sun is trying to) would be >> super great for people trying to get involved. Sometimes people would >> like to contribute more than actual packages, like documentation, plain >> testing or hardware. Currently that is something that is hard at >> blastwave as "getting in touch" seem hard (it might not be the case, but >> it is not as inviting as other organizations). Well, you are quite right of course. Right now we are having a fascinating discussion on optimization and on creating binaries for specific processor targets. I have built the new gzip package ( which I'll finish shortly ) as well as GCC 4.2.1 ( which is running its testsuite ) and there are benefits to tweaking the xarch flags for pentium_pro as well as pentium_pro+mmx or whatever. There is a vast arrya of talent in here and this is one discussion where I wish we moved it out to the users list. Everyone would benefit from it I think. > That said, there are of course many reasons to have private lists, but > it is a matter of which list the message should go to by default. I guess no one wants to see the package maintainers yakking about how to tweak out the last bit of performance or about why 64-bit can sometimes be evil. That sort of thing ? :-) Dennis From trygvis at inamo.no Wed Aug 8 23:23:27 2007 From: trygvis at inamo.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trygve_Laugst=F8l?=) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:23:27 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <53570.72.39.216.186.1186606851.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> <46B97870.8060103@acm.org> <53364.72.39.216.186.1186592596.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46BA01F1.80106@inamo.no> <46BA2BF4.902@inamo.no> <53570.72.39.216.186.1186606851.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <46BA344F.8090606@inamo.no> Dennis Clarke wrote: >> Trygve Laugst?l wrote: >>> Dennis Clarke wrote: >>>>> Trygve Laugst??l wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> Love it or hate it, this is blastwave. >>>> Please allow me to add one last point. >>>> >>>> 9) things have worked like this year after year after year and it may >>>> be conservative, somewhat self critical and overly careful >>>> >>>> * but it works * >>>> >>>> We have been discussing the issues behind closed doors for some time now >>>> and >>>> we will probably come up with a way to accomodate people better. If we >>>> can. >>> Just by doing more stuff in public (like Sun is trying to) would be >>> super great for people trying to get involved. Sometimes people would >>> like to contribute more than actual packages, like documentation, plain >>> testing or hardware. Currently that is something that is hard at >>> blastwave as "getting in touch" seem hard (it might not be the case, but >>> it is not as inviting as other organizations). > > Well, you are quite right of course. > > Right now we are having a fascinating discussion on optimization and on > creating binaries for specific processor targets. I have built the new gzip > package ( which I'll finish shortly ) as well as GCC 4.2.1 ( which is > running its testsuite ) and there are benefits to tweaking the xarch flags > for pentium_pro as well as pentium_pro+mmx or whatever. There is a vast > arrya of talent in here and this is one discussion where I wish we moved it > out to the users list. Everyone would benefit from it I think. > >> That said, there are of course many reasons to have private lists, but >> it is a matter of which list the message should go to by default. > > I guess no one wants to see the package maintainers yakking about how to > tweak out the last bit of performance or about why 64-bit can sometimes be > evil. That sort of thing ? :-) No, I was more thinking of sensitive stuff like security issues and discussing potential new maintainers. I would _love_ to see the discussion you talked about, even if it just to be able to learn, both about how to build stuff properly and how to build stuff for blastwave. I'd like to see that kind of discussion on a "dev" list while this user list is kept as-is with the goal of serving the ordinary users and plain consumers of Blastwave. -- Trygve From a.cervellin at acm.org Thu Aug 9 09:48:46 2007 From: a.cervellin at acm.org (Alessio) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:48:46 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package In-Reply-To: <46B9937C.7030408@inamo.no> References: <46A89891.9090402@inamo.no> <46B8B87F.7060809@inamo.no> <52943.72.39.216.186.1186513506.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46B96660.4070807@inamo.no> <46B97870.8060103@acm.org> <46B9937C.7030408@inamo.no> Message-ID: <46BAC6DE.20007@acm.org> Trygve Laugst?l wrote: >> 4) if someone will answer you, then you'll have to prove you are really >> willing to be a maintainer (but only Phil knows how) and possibly you've >> to provide a "bombastic" email address > > I've done this part but it stopped after Phil didn't want to accept any > of the means of identification [1] I could provide and didn't come back > to me when I asked for alternate means. [...] > [1]: faxed in signed copy of passport (which was good enough for > Apache), an email from my apache.org acount. Faxes are too easy to fake, I think this is not a good a way to identificate a maintainer. When I told a maintainer must provide a "bombastic" email, I meant that usually a maintainer should provide as his ID an email address that can guarantee as much as possible his identification... examples of "good" email addresses could be: - an email address of some big corporation - an email address of some big organization (where the person has an active and well-documented role since X years) - an email address belonging to a domain running some site since X years, and where the "whois" details are verifiable and belonging to the maintainer - an email address belonging to debian.org (because they already have their own personal identification processes) - an email address published on academic works or similar stuff ...and so on. So, if you (not Trygve) signup as maintainer giving as reference myname at gmail.com or myname at foo.com, you'll be rejected. Given the nature of the blastwave project, you can easily understand why we care so much about the identification of a maintainer... Unfortunately, this selection method excludes people who are self-employed. Anyway this is our current admission protocol.... again, love it or hate it. BUT we understand this is not so good - and these are also undocumented rules - SO if you have any suggestions, then they are really welcome. As final note, you've to be sympathetic about us: blastwave is a quite small organization, especially as number of maintainers if compared to other OSS projects, so there are issues that we face rare times and so we are not enough organized to resolve them (one of these issues is to let people join in a deeper way the blastwave community, as maintainer or not) From mats.larsson at ericsson.com Thu Aug 9 12:10:39 2007 From: mats.larsson at ericsson.com (Mats Larsson) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:10:39 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] lists.blastwave.org down ? Message-ID: <46BAE81F.9070106@ericsson.com> I can't access lists.blastwave.org. Is it down? /MOL From mats.larsson at ericsson.com Thu Aug 9 12:12:40 2007 From: mats.larsson at ericsson.com (Mats Larsson) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:12:40 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] lists.blastwave.org down ? In-Reply-To: <46BAE81F.9070106@ericsson.com> References: <46BAE81F.9070106@ericsson.com> Message-ID: <46BAE898.70807@ericsson.com> On 2007-08-09 12:10, Mats Larsson wrote: > I can't access lists.blastwave.org. Is it down? No it isn't. My fault, misconfigured proxy settings. Sorry. From mats.larsson at ericsson.com Thu Aug 9 12:16:00 2007 From: mats.larsson at ericsson.com (Mats Larsson) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:16:00 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Your message to users awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46BAE960.6040101@ericsson.com> Who's moderating the users list at lists.blastwave.org? I've been waiting 2 days for a post to be approved (or rejected). BR MOL On 2007-08-07 15:35, users-bounces at lists.blastwave.org wrote: > Your mail to 'users' with the subject > > SeaMonkey problem > > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > > The reason it is being held: > > Message body is too big: 247513 bytes with a limit of 100 KB > > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive > notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel > this posting, please visit the following URL: > > https://lists.blastwave.org/mailman/confirm/users/a19f5b85b648bfa94e9ffcc0f4f7b4cdfa707f42 > From mats.larsson at ericsson.com Thu Aug 9 12:44:00 2007 From: mats.larsson at ericsson.com (Mats Larsson) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:44:00 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] XEmacs maintainer ? Message-ID: <46BAEFF0.2060903@ericsson.com> Hi, Is Darin Perusich still the maintainer of the CSWxemacs and CSWxemacspkgs pkgs? BR MOL From dclarke at blastwave.org Thu Aug 9 14:35:40 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 08:35:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] Your message to users awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <46BAE960.6040101@ericsson.com> References: <46BAE960.6040101@ericsson.com> Message-ID: <53786.72.39.216.186.1186662940.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > Who's moderating the users list at lists.blastwave.org? I've been > waiting 2 days for a post to be approved (or rejected). I moderate the list daily and I see it every day. A message with 247,000+ bytes of stuff in it will be summarily rejected and deleted without warning. That is just plain bad manners on a mail list server. Imagine! A 200K email message with what in it ? I am sure you could post a small summary of whatever it is and then we can discuss the issue but do NOT just outright post anything that large. Now that I have given it some thought ... I will tweak that list down to 64K message size maximum. Dennis ps: this is before my first coffee ! From dclarke at blastwave.org Thu Aug 9 14:48:54 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 08:48:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave users maillist description changed Message-ID: <53806.72.39.216.186.1186663734.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Please see top of : https://lists.blastwave.org/mailman/listinfo/users Where it now says : A General discussion maillist about the software from blastwave, the people and processes within the blastwave project and the users that actually use the software. This is a Solaris and OpenSolaris community based email list and thus Linux questions *may* be off topic. Everything else is fair game. Welcome to the Blastwave users list! The idea here is that we can and probably should have open discussions about things like code optimization as well as compiler options and things like that. These sort of things may benefit everyone involved and it would be hubris to think that we know all that we need to know. - Dennis Clarke ps : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris From mats.larsson at ericsson.com Thu Aug 9 14:51:54 2007 From: mats.larsson at ericsson.com (Mats Larsson) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:51:54 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Your message to users awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <53786.72.39.216.186.1186662940.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <46BAE960.6040101@ericsson.com> <53786.72.39.216.186.1186662940.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <46BB0DEA.8040402@ericsson.com> On 2007-08-09 14:35, Dennis Clarke wrote: > That is just plain bad manners on a mail list server. Imagine! A 200K email > message with what in it ? I am sure you could post a small summary of > whatever it is and then we can discuss the issue but do NOT just outright > post anything that large. Ok I'll accept that. But at the moment the easiest way for me was to provide a PNG screenshot of what the problem looked like. Then I wouldn't have to write down a quite long error msg that was presented in a non-copyable text window. But anyway you all have my apologies. /MOL From mats.larsson at ericsson.com Thu Aug 9 14:59:11 2007 From: mats.larsson at ericsson.com (Mats Larsson) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:59:11 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] SeaMonkey 1.1.3 (and 1.1.4) problem Message-ID: <46BB0F9F.90008@ericsson.com> Menu bar is empty (no buttons/menues) and error msgs like this one in the bottom area of the main window: Both version 1.1.3 from unstable and 1.1.4 from testing behave like this on Solaris 9 (no problem on Solaris 8, Solaris 10 not tested). Version 1.1.2 doesn't have the problem. Does anyone else see this? BR MOL From a.cervellin at acm.org Thu Aug 9 15:01:49 2007 From: a.cervellin at acm.org (Alessio) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:01:49 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] SeaMonkey 1.1.3 (and 1.1.4) problem In-Reply-To: <46BB0F9F.90008@ericsson.com> References: <46BB0F9F.90008@ericsson.com> Message-ID: <46BB103D.8010202@acm.org> Mats Larsson wrote: > Menu bar is empty (no buttons/menues) and error msgs like this one in the bottom area of the main window: > > > > Both version 1.1.3 from unstable and 1.1.4 from testing behave like this on Solaris 9 (no problem on Solaris 8, Solaris 10 not tested). > > Version 1.1.2 doesn't have the problem. > > Does anyone else see this? i'm sorry but i don't have a solaris 9 box to test it on, on solaris 10 works fine, on solaris 8 too... by my side, nothing changed in the build process between 1.1.2 & 1.1.4 From dclarke at blastwave.org Thu Aug 9 15:39:33 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:39:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] Your message to users awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <46BB0DEA.8040402@ericsson.com> References: <46BAE960.6040101@ericsson.com> <53786.72.39.216.186.1186662940.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46BB0DEA.8040402@ericsson.com> Message-ID: <53877.72.39.216.186.1186666773.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > On 2007-08-09 14:35, Dennis Clarke wrote: >> That is just plain bad manners on a mail list server. Imagine! A 200K >> email >> message with what in it ? I am sure you could post a small summary of >> whatever it is and then we can discuss the issue but do NOT just outright >> post anything that large. > > Ok I'll accept that. But at the moment the easiest way for me was to > provide a PNG screenshot of what the problem looked like. Then I > wouldn't have to write down a quite long error msg that was presented in > a non-copyable text window. > > But anyway you all have my apologies. You're quite okay and I see now ( after my first coffee ) that you were trying to post binary data to the mail list. Yeah .. that will get nailed by the filters pretty quick. Can you post that to a website somewhere ? Dennis Clarke From brandorr at opensolaris.org Thu Aug 9 16:12:22 2007 From: brandorr at opensolaris.org (Brandorr) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 10:12:22 -0400 Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave users maillist description changed In-Reply-To: <53806.72.39.216.186.1186663734.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <53806.72.39.216.186.1186663734.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <5b5090780708090712t38e1fd9er4492f6cf831cdbcc@mail.gmail.com> On 8/9/07, Dennis Clarke wrote: > > > Please see top of : > > https://lists.blastwave.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > Where it now says : > > A General discussion maillist about the software from blastwave, the > people and processes within the blastwave project and the users that > actually use the software. This is a Solaris and OpenSolaris community > based email list and thus Linux questions *may* be off topic. > Everything > else is fair game. Welcome to the Blastwave users list! > > > The idea here is that we can and probably should have open discussions > about > things like code optimization as well as compiler options and things like > that. These sort of things may benefit everyone involved and it would be > hubris to think that we know all that we need to know. > > - > Dennis Clarke Well said!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anil.verve at gmail.com Thu Aug 9 16:27:05 2007 From: anil.verve at gmail.com (Anil Gulecha) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 19:57:05 +0530 Subject: [csw-users] Your message to users awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <46BB0DEA.8040402@ericsson.com> References: <46BAE960.6040101@ericsson.com> <53786.72.39.216.186.1186662940.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46BB0DEA.8040402@ericsson.com> Message-ID: <148d59250708090727r1930900bx1ac5415faef4105d@mail.gmail.com> On 8/9/07, Mats Larsson wrote: > On 2007-08-09 14:35, Dennis Clarke wrote: > > That is just plain bad manners on a mail list server. Imagine! A 200K email > > message with what in it ? I am sure you could post a small summary of > > whatever it is and then we can discuss the issue but do NOT just outright > > post anything that large. > > Ok I'll accept that. But at the moment the easiest way for me was to > provide a PNG screenshot of what the problem looked like. Then I > wouldn't have to write down a quite long error msg that was presented in > a non-copyable text window. > bayimg.org and imageshack.us provide very easy one-click imagehosting. Anil From listen at alexander.skwar.name Fri Aug 10 09:05:14 2007 From: listen at alexander.skwar.name (Alexander Skwar) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:05:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create Message-ID: Hallo! I'm trying to install something using pkg-get on Solaris 10 machine. This fails: root at svnds01 ~ # pkg-get -i md5sum WARNING: gpg not found /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[25]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create root at svnds01 ~ # pkginfo -l CSWpkgget PKGINST: CSWpkgget NAME: pkg_get - CSW version of automated package download tool CATEGORY: system ARCH: all VERSION: 3.7.2 BASEDIR: /opt/csw VENDOR: http://www.blastwave.org/pkg-get.html packaged for CSW by Philip Brown DESC: A convenient way to automate package installs PSTAMP: speedy20060119102530 INSTDATE: Jul 19 2007 12:33 HOTLINE: http://www.blastwave.org/bugtrack/ EMAIL: phil at blastwave.org STATUS: completely installed FILES: 11 installed pathnames 6 shared pathnames 7 directories 4 executables 121 blocks used (approx) root at svnds01 ~ # cat /etc/release Solaris 10 6/06 s10s_u2wos_09a SPARC Copyright 2006 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Use is subject to license terms. Assembled 09 June 2006 Preinstall P/N 259-4616-01 Built 13 August 2006 root at svnds01 ~ # uname -a SunOS svnds01 5.10 Generic_118833-24 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-V245 I used to be able to install programs with pkg-get on this machine. I logged in to this machine via ssh. I logged in as a normal user. Then I did a "su -" to become root. As root, I ran "pkg-get -i md5sum". Why do I get this error message and what do I need to do to fix this? Thanks a lot, Alexander From listen at alexander.skwar.name Fri Aug 10 09:09:49 2007 From: listen at alexander.skwar.name (Alexander Skwar) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:09:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [csw-users] SeaMonkey 1.1.3 (and 1.1.4) problem References: <46BB0F9F.90008@ericsson.com> Message-ID: Mats Larsson ericsson.com> writes: > > Menu bar is empty (no buttons/menues) and error msgs like this one in the bottom area of the main window: > > That's often an indication of a misbehaving theme or extension. Could you maybe try to start SM with a blank profile? To do so, run seamonkey -profilemanager Then create a new profile. I'd think that the message goes away. After that, try to delete the XUL.mfasl (or whatever it's named) file in the old profile. Cheers, Alexander From listen at alexander.skwar.name Fri Aug 10 09:07:31 2007 From: listen at alexander.skwar.name (Alexander Skwar) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:07:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [csw-users] Your message to users awaits moderator approval References: <46BAE960.6040101@ericsson.com> <53786.72.39.216.186.1186662940.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46BB0DEA.8040402@ericsson.com> Message-ID: Mats Larsson ericsson.com> writes: > Ok I'll accept that. But at the moment the easiest way for me was to > provide a PNG screenshot of what the problem looked like. Fine. There are, however, services like http://imageshack.us/, where you can upload images. I think it would be best, if you'd do this and then simply post a link to the image. At least that's what I do usually on other mailing list or in Usenet. Cheers, Alexander From asmoore at edge.net Fri Aug 10 12:37:54 2007 From: asmoore at edge.net (Alex Moore) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 05:37:54 -0500 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070810053754.00007fff@mcsrv5> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:05:14 +0000 (UTC) Alexander Skwar wrote: > root at svnds01 ~ # pkg-get -i md5sum > WARNING: gpg not found > /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create > /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[25]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create > See the 'HOW TO ..' link at www.blastwave.org. Alex -- From listen at alexander.skwar.name Fri Aug 10 13:52:39 2007 From: listen at alexander.skwar.name (Alexander Skwar) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:52:39 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create References: <20070810053754.00007fff@mcsrv5> Message-ID: <10073823.ZDPLZba9TO@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> Alex Moore wrote: > On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:05:14 +0000 (UTC) > Alexander Skwar wrote: > >> root at svnds01 ~ # pkg-get -i md5sum >> WARNING: gpg not found >> /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create >> /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[25]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create >> > > See the 'HOW TO ..' link at www.blastwave.org. I must be blind :) Could you please tell me which section I should read? Thanks a lot, Alexander Skwar From rene at terdmonk.com Fri Aug 10 15:11:04 2007 From: rene at terdmonk.com (Rene Cunningham) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:11:04 +1000 Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE Message-ID: <20070810131103.GE5064@terdmonk.com> Hi All, Quick self introduction -- Im a long time linux user/abuser who is slowly moving into the solaris/opensolaris space and enjoying every minute in doing so. Im flabbergasted to see why Blastwave, or something similar, hasnt got into mainstream solaris or even opensolaris. Coming from a strong debian background, the most convenient tool one had at his disposal was apt-get. Installing and updating packages that lived on remote servers was just something every linux user would expect be available. Its hard for me to comprehend how this is not available with something so mature as solaris. Also having the package source (upstream source + package maintainer diff + changelogs + package documentation) available through apt-get was a great help for people wanting to add their own patches to packages. Im also concerned at seeing projects like SFE[0] working towards providing easy to access package information and spec files to the public without any collaboration with Blastwave. This appears to me as duplication of work and is fracturing the achievement of a common goal both projects are trying to achieve. Im interested in the Blastwave communities thoughts on this and whether there is a strong push for the Blastwave project , or something very similar, to be an _official_ opensolaris project. Would anyone like to share thoughts or point me towards some documentation, threads, blog posts that describes the history and reasons why this isnt a combined effort? Cheers and thanks for reading my concerns (or rant). :) -- Rene [0] - http://pkgbuild.sourceforge.net/spec-files-extra/ From asmoore at edge.net Sat Aug 11 00:12:03 2007 From: asmoore at edge.net (Alex Moore) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:12:03 -0500 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create In-Reply-To: <10073823.ZDPLZba9TO@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> References: <20070810053754.00007fff@mcsrv5> <10073823.ZDPLZba9TO@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> Message-ID: <20070810171203.00006ef9@mcsrv5> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:52:39 +0200 Alexander Skwar wrote: > Alex Moore wrote: > > > On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:05:14 +0000 (UTC) > > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > >> root at svnds01 ~ # pkg-get -i md5sum > >> WARNING: gpg not found > >> /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create > >> /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[25]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create > >> > > > > See the 'HOW TO ..' link at www.blastwave.org. > > I must be blind :) Could you please tell me which section > I should read? on the howto.html 'Last Word - ...' 'Install gnupg and md5(gmd5sum). Maybe you already did this and there is a different problem. Alex From cahille at yahoo.com Sat Aug 11 00:33:57 2007 From: cahille at yahoo.com (Earl Cahill) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create Message-ID: <666532.35921.qm@web50908.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Here are my very boiled down steps # pkgadd -d http://www.blastwave.org/pkg_get.pkg# cp -p /var/pkg-get/admin-fullauto /var/pkg-get/adminto /etc/profile add PATH=/opt/csw/bin:/usr/sfw/bin:/usr/ccs/bin:/usr/ucb:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin# pkg-get -i gnupg perl textutils wget# /opt/csw/bin/wget --output-document=pgp.key http://www.blastwave.org/mirrors.html# gpg --import pgp.key Hope this helps. I have used these steps maybe twenty times and they work just fine for me :) Maybe now someone could respond to my apache2, mod_perl, mysql email :) Enjoy! Earl ----- Original Message ---- From: Alex Moore To: users at lists.blastwave.org Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 4:12:03 PM Subject: Re: [csw-users] /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:52:39 +0200 Alexander Skwar wrote: > Alex Moore wrote: > > > On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:05:14 +0000 (UTC) > > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > >> root at svnds01 ~ # pkg-get -i md5sum > >> WARNING: gpg not found > >> /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create > >> /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[25]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create > >> > > > > See the 'HOW TO ..' link at www.blastwave.org. > > I must be blind :) Could you please tell me which section > I should read? on the howto.html 'Last Word - ...' 'Install gnupg and md5(gmd5sum). Maybe you already did this and there is a different problem. Alex _______________________________________________ users mailing list users at lists.blastwave.org https://lists.blastwave.org/mailman/listinfo/users ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ml at eroteme.org Sat Aug 11 19:36:34 2007 From: ml at eroteme.org (S. Hakim Hamdani [ML]) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:36:34 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] OpenOffice printing... Message-ID: <20070811193634.00005034@asagao-jkk.greatwinter.org> To the attention of James Lee: - Concerning printing from OpenOffice - James, thanks for the comments and tips. I can print from OpenOffice if I start it from the commandline. I cannot print when I run e.g. swriter from X. I don't use csw OpenOffice but the builds directly from their website, so I don't expect things to work as smoothly as they do with csw software. ;) In any case, as I said, I'm quite happy to export to pdf and then lp that. Best regards, Hakim -- S. Hakim Hamdani [ML] / Eroteme.org From griffous at griffous.net Sun Aug 12 06:27:39 2007 From: griffous at griffous.net (Jonathan Wheeler) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:27:39 +1200 Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE Message-ID: <46BE8C3B.9040708@griffous.net> > Hi All, > > Quick self introduction -- Im a long time linux user/abuser who is slowly moving into > the solaris/opensolaris space and enjoying every minute in doing so. I'm in much the same position. Welcome to the one true path to enlightenment. [0] > Im flabbergasted to see why Blastwave, or something similar, hasnt got > into mainstream solaris or even opensolaris. I doubt we'd ever see BW integrating with the official "solaris". Opensolaris/Nevada/Indiana? Maybe, but for support and liability reasons, I expect that Sun will always want to keep solaris close to their chest. Much as Redhat has fedora for the community to use & abuse. Indiana, should it ever move beyond a mere mailing list thread and actually become something usable, well that has some real potential. Dennis has been directly talking to Ian about exactly this, I believe... > Coming from a strong debian background, the most convenient tool one had > at his disposal was apt-get. Installing and updating packages that lived > on remote servers was just something every linux user would expect be > available. > > Its hard for me to comprehend how this is not available with something > so mature as solaris. You're not alone. To be clear though, this is more a SUN problem, then a BW one. Without BW, the situation would be magnitudes worse, so it's good to see that we've been making a real difference here. > Also having the package source (upstream source + package maintainer diff + > changelogs + package documentation) available through apt-get was a great help for people wanting to add their own patches to packages. > > Im also concerned at seeing projects like SFE[0] working towards > providing easy to access package information and spec files to the public without > any collaboration with Blastwave. This appears to me as duplication > of work and is fracturing the achievement of a common goal both projects > are trying to achieve. This may be a little more complex then it sounds. I haven't spent much time with SFE, but it's my understanding that they're just targeting Solaris 10+. Is this correct? Also, the big difference is that we distribute binaries (with source being available via SVN), while SFE technically doesn't do either. In my mind, that makes BW a full service, while SFE seems more like a ports/portage effort. Please correct me if I have this all wrong. Now that's not to say that we can't benefit from the hard work that they've already done. :) When I get some time, I'd like to do a comparison of our requested packages list, and also the Sun companion CD, vs the SFE repository. If there are some matches out there, I'd like to make a start on packaging some of these apps - in theory, much of the hard work has already been done. Now, where did I put that spare time of mine... I'm sure it's in here somewhere! *rustle rustle*. > > Im interested in the Blastwave communities thoughts on this and whether > there is a strong push for the Blastwave project , or something very > similar, to be an _official_ opensolaris project. Well you have mine now, but I hardly speak on behalf of BW, I'll let some of the other heavyweights and long timers chime in from here :) Guys? > Would anyone like to share thoughts or point me towards some documentation, threads, > blog posts that describes the history and reasons why this isnt a combined effort? Predates me sorry. > Cheers and thanks for reading my concerns (or rant). :) No problem, I think it's a very good question, and certainly very relevant to the BW effort! JW [0] My funny sense of humor - this was a joke! From brandorr at opensolaris.org Sun Aug 12 06:34:06 2007 From: brandorr at opensolaris.org (Brandorr) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:34:06 -0400 Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE In-Reply-To: <46BE8C3B.9040708@griffous.net> References: <46BE8C3B.9040708@griffous.net> Message-ID: <5b5090780708112134r2a11aa4aj8ebe8b9d9cc4934b@mail.gmail.com> > > > Its hard for me to comprehend how this is not available with something > > so mature as solaris. > You're not alone. To be clear though, this is more a SUN problem, then a > BW one. Without BW, the situation would be magnitudes worse, so it's > good to see that we've been making a real difference here. You have to understand that historically most people bought their applications, and used proprietary development tools. (Short of a small list of GNU tools that were fairly commonly used, there really wasn't much call for open source repositories... ) It's just been relatively recently that there has been an explosion of open source application development. (As oppose to cli commands/tools). that have made this a neccessity. (Fairly recently would be within the past 10 years or so). -Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cahille at yahoo.com Sun Aug 12 09:51:50 2007 From: cahille at yahoo.com (Earl Cahill) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE Message-ID: <991648.56247.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Any chance that blastwave, coolstack and opensolaris could at least be built with the same compiler (the latest studio 12?) so that packages could be a little friendlier? As per this thread http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5135030&start=0&tstart=0 blastwave and opensolaris perl packages don't always (never?) work together. Maybe it is just perl packages that don't play nice, but probably not. Thanks, Earl ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From a.cervellin at acm.org Sun Aug 12 13:31:59 2007 From: a.cervellin at acm.org (Alessio) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 13:31:59 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE In-Reply-To: <991648.56247.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <991648.56247.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46BEEFAF.4060907@acm.org> Earl Cahill wrote: > Any chance that blastwave, coolstack and opensolaris could at least be > built with the same compiler (the latest studio 12?) no, at least studio 11, 'cause studio 12 is not supported on solaris 8, which is the platform the csw packages are built on. From griffous at griffous.net Sun Aug 12 14:01:48 2007 From: griffous at griffous.net (Jonathan Wheeler) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:01:48 +1200 Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE In-Reply-To: <46BEEFAF.4060907@acm.org> References: <991648.56247.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <46BEEFAF.4060907@acm.org> Message-ID: <46BEF6AC.9030607@griffous.net> Alessio wrote: > Earl Cahill wrote: >> Any chance that blastwave, coolstack and opensolaris could at least be >> built with the same compiler (the latest studio 12?) > > no, at least studio 11, 'cause studio 12 is not supported on solaris 8, > which is the platform the csw packages are built on. I'll also add to this that of the 3 packages that I'm maintaining, all require the use of GCC. Like it or hate it, that's just the way the software has been written. We're packagers, not all of us are developers with sufficient skill (or time) to make the code-level changes needed to make our packaged programs work with studio on solaris. I hasten to add that I'd like to learn how to do these things, but I think it's fair to say that the use of GCC isn't a BW imposed policy that we support both; it's a necessity in order for us to offer our users the broadest range of software possible :) Jonathan From pde at rfc822.net Sun Aug 12 14:49:06 2007 From: pde at rfc822.net (Pete Ehlke) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 07:49:06 -0500 Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE In-Reply-To: <46BE8C3B.9040708@griffous.net> References: <46BE8C3B.9040708@griffous.net> Message-ID: <20070812124906.GA17702@rfc822.net> On Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 16:27:39 +1200, Jonathan Wheeler wrote: > >> Coming from a strong debian background, the most convenient tool one had >> at his disposal was apt-get. Installing and updating packages that lived >> on remote servers was just something every linux user would expect be >> available. >> >> Its hard for me to comprehend how this is not available with something >> so mature as solaris. >You're not alone. To be clear though, this is more a SUN problem, then a >BW one. Without BW, the situation would be magnitudes worse, so it's >good to see that we've been making a real difference here. > Many people seem to be unaware of this, from pkgadd(1M): -d datastream pkgname,... | all Install or copy a package from device. device can be any of the following: o A full path name to a directory or the identifiers for tape, floppy disk, or removable disk (for example, /var/tmp or /floppy/floppy_name). o A device alias (for example, /floppy/floppy0). o A datastream created by pkgtrans (see pkgtrans(1)). o A URL pointing to a datastream created by pkgtrans. The supported Universal Resource Identifiers (URIs) are http: and https:. I don't recall any more when that first appeared, but it's been a very long time now that pkgadd has been able to install from remote servers. True that you have to put together your own package server, and build your own order files ( since pkgadd doesn't chase dependencies ), but I've been installing packages from remote servers for years. It's unclear to me just now- after a couple of years using csw- whether it's more hassle maintaining a package server and order files, or dealing with the lack of coherent csw releases. Few things are more annoying than pkg-get wanting to upgrade the world because someone made a pm_* package depend on a specific rev of CSWcommon. -Pete From a.cervellin at acm.org Sun Aug 12 15:14:36 2007 From: a.cervellin at acm.org (Alessio) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:14:36 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE In-Reply-To: <20070812124906.GA17702@rfc822.net> References: <46BE8C3B.9040708@griffous.net> <20070812124906.GA17702@rfc822.net> Message-ID: <46BF07BC.9090703@acm.org> Pete Ehlke wrote: > It's unclear to me just now- after a couple of years using csw- whether > it's more hassle maintaining a package server and order files, or > dealing with the lack of coherent csw releases. Few things are more > annoying than pkg-get wanting to upgrade the world because someone made > a pm_* package depend on a specific rev of CSWcommon. you have not to upgrade the world, usually you have only to upgrade the CSWcommon package... which contains nothing but the creation of a few empty folders, so the upgrade process is not bandwidth or time consuming. also, as far as i know, it's not true that a package can depend on a *specific* revision of another one. From a.cervellin at acm.org Sun Aug 12 15:18:50 2007 From: a.cervellin at acm.org (Alessio) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:18:50 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE In-Reply-To: <46BEF6AC.9030607@griffous.net> References: <991648.56247.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <46BEEFAF.4060907@acm.org> <46BEF6AC.9030607@griffous.net> Message-ID: <46BF08BA.1040705@acm.org> Jonathan Wheeler wrote: > We're packagers, not all of us are developers with sufficient skill (or > time) to make the code-level changes needed to make our packaged > programs work with studio on solaris. well, this should be the work of a csw maintainer... if you (not jonathan) do not have the skill, maybe you should not signup as package maintainer. if you don't know how to fix a source to build it with sun c/c++, you can: - ask help on the maintainers mailing list - ask help to mr. google - submit a bug on the project owners From william at wbonnet.net Sun Aug 12 15:32:48 2007 From: william at wbonnet.net (William Bonnet) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:32:48 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave users maillist description changed In-Reply-To: <53806.72.39.216.186.1186663734.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <53806.72.39.216.186.1186663734.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <00C2F1C5-4713-4056-89C9-E75BCC4AAB4F@wbonnet.net> Hi > > The idea here is that we can and probably should have open > discussions about > things like code optimization as well as compiler options and > things like > that. These sort of things may benefit everyone involved and it > would be > hubris to think that we know all that we need to know. > Sounds good to me Cheers, -- William http://www.wbonnet.net http://www.sunwizard.net Le site fran?ais des amateurs de stations Unix http://www.blastwave.org An OpenSolaris Community Site http://www.guses.org French speaking Solaris User Group -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cahille at yahoo.com Sun Aug 12 19:02:51 2007 From: cahille at yahoo.com (Earl Cahill) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [csw-users] mod_perl troubles Message-ID: <881485.37708.qm@web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Next time I build a zone, I will try and make sure that I only use blastwave stuff. It could be that using /etc/apache2/original/httpd.conf was at the heart of my trouble. Thanks, Earl ----- Original Message ---- From: Alex Moore Cc: Earl Cahill ; questions and discussions Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 4:51:37 PM Subject: Re: [csw-users] mod_perl troubles On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Earl Cahill wrote: > pkg-get -i perl ap2_modperl apache2 memcached > > copy over an httpd.conf > > cp /etc/apache2/original/httpd.conf /etc/apache2/httpd.conf > > at the end of my httpd.conf, I append > There are multiple references to non-CSWapache2 files in your email. Which are you using? Sun's apache2 or CSWapache2? For example, the cp above copies to /etc/..; which does not sound like a directory used by CSWapache2. Confused, Alex ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From listen at alexander.skwar.name Mon Aug 13 08:57:12 2007 From: listen at alexander.skwar.name (Alexander Skwar) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:57:12 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create References: <20070810053754.00007fff@mcsrv5> <10073823.ZDPLZba9TO@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> <20070810171203.00006ef9@mcsrv5> Message-ID: <7429268.01THC6iOS7@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> Alex Moore wrote: > On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:52:39 +0200 > Alexander Skwar wrote: > >> Alex Moore wrote: >> >> > On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:05:14 +0000 (UTC) >> > Alexander Skwar wrote: >> > >> >> root at svnds01 ~ # pkg-get -i md5sum >> >> WARNING: gpg not found >> >> /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create >> >> /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[25]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create >> >> >> > >> > See the 'HOW TO ..' link at www.blastwave.org. >> >> I must be blind :) Could you please tell me which section >> I should read? > > on the howto.html 'Last Word - ...' 'Install gnupg and md5(gmd5sum). > > Maybe you already did this and there is a different problem. Because gpg is not available, nothing can be installed and things fail with this error message? And how DO I install gnupg, if pkg-get -i $pkg_name does not work? Note: I don't care about the "WARNING: gpg not found" message. Alexander Skwar From listen at alexander.skwar.name Mon Aug 13 08:59:44 2007 From: listen at alexander.skwar.name (Alexander Skwar) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:59:44 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create References: <666532.35921.qm@web50908.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1204746.OfZSi1bo3D@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> Earl Cahill wrote: > Here are my very boiled down steps > > # pkgadd -d http://www.blastwave.org/pkg_get.pkg# cp -p > # /var/pkg-get/admin-fullauto /var/pkg-get/adminto > /etc/profile add > PATH=/opt/csw/bin:/usr/sfw/bin:/usr/ccs/bin:/usr/ucb:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin# > pkg-get -i gnupg perl textutils wget# /opt/csw/bin/wget > --output-document=pgp.key http://www.blastwave.org/mirrors.html# gpg > --import pgp.key This will fail at the "pkg-get -i gnupg perl textutils wget" step, won't it? Anyway: I do have pkg_get installed. I copied the admin-fullauto file. Maybe I did not make this clear enough: I used to be able to install stuff on THIS machine with pkg-get. It just stopped working for some reason or the other. > Hope this helps. I have used these steps maybe twenty times and > they work just fine for me :) Same for me - on all my other machines. Alexander Skwar From james at blastwave.org Mon Aug 13 10:14:55 2007 From: james at blastwave.org (James Lee) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:14:55 GMT Subject: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE In-Reply-To: <20070812124906.GA17702@rfc822.net> References: <46BE8C3B.9040708@griffous.net> <20070812124906.GA17702@rfc822.net> Message-ID: <20070813.8145500.2569537452@gyor.oxdrove.co.uk> On 12/08/07, 13:49:06, Pete Ehlke wrote regarding Re: [csw-users] Blastwave and SFE: > Few things are more > annoying than pkg-get wanting to upgrade the world because someone made > a pm_* package depend on a specific rev of CSWcommon. You have a lucky life but one of those few things more annoying is updating a package and discovering it causes several others to fail. More annoying still is not discovering - until some overnight run or daemon fails. pkg-get correctly expects that packages are of a compatible version and does so by updating to the current state, true there may be other workable states but none are known and checked. Where did you get the idea that packages are and 100% modular, interchangeable and compatible between versions? James. From asmoore at blastwave.org Mon Aug 13 12:47:44 2007 From: asmoore at blastwave.org (Alex Moore) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 05:47:44 -0500 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create In-Reply-To: <7429268.01THC6iOS7@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> References: <20070810053754.00007fff@mcsrv5> <10073823.ZDPLZba9TO@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> <20070810171203.00006ef9@mcsrv5> <7429268.01THC6iOS7@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> Message-ID: <20070813054744.00000351@sws602.mcsun.local> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:57:12 +0200 Alexander Skwar wrote: > Because gpg is not available, nothing can be installed and things fail > with this error message? > > And how DO I install gnupg, if pkg-get -i $pkg_name does not work? > > Note: I don't care about the "WARNING: gpg not found" message. From the HowTo page: ----> Install gnupg and md5(gmd5sum) As the root user you need to use pkg-get to install gnupg and an md5 program. [Solaris 10 comes with /usr/bin/digest which can do md5 checksums, but otherwise you will need to install the textutils package as well] bash-3.00# /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get -i gnupg textutils WARNING: gpg not found NOTE: To have checksums compared, you must install one of: md5 or gmd5sum (gmd5sum is available with GNU textutils) try 'pkg-get install textutils' . <---- OR from the bottom of /opt/csw/etc/pkg-get.conf ----> # To disable use of gpg or md5, uncomment these #use_gpg=false #use_md5=false <---- Alex -- From listen at alexander.skwar.name Mon Aug 13 13:00:53 2007 From: listen at alexander.skwar.name (Alexander Skwar) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:00:53 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] [SOLVED] Re: /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create References: <20070810053754.00007fff@mcsrv5> <10073823.ZDPLZba9TO@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> <20070810171203.00006ef9@mcsrv5> <7429268.01THC6iOS7@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> <20070813054744.00000351@sws602.mcsun.local> Message-ID: <2498104.N0dYTicAX1@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> Alex Moore wrote: > On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:57:12 +0200 > Alexander Skwar wrote: > >> Because gpg is not available, nothing can be installed and things fail >> with this error message? >> >> And how DO I install gnupg, if pkg-get -i $pkg_name does not work? >> >> Note: I don't care about the "WARNING: gpg not found" message. > >>From the HowTo page: [..] > bash-3.00# /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get -i gnupg textutils Ah. So the issue was just, that I tried to install a nonexistant package (md5sum). It's not that the configuration of the system was bad, or something like that. SUMMARY: Only try to install packages, which actually exist. And don't complain, if nonexistant packages cannot be installed. Thanks, Alexander Skwar From listen at alexander.skwar.name Mon Aug 13 13:11:54 2007 From: listen at alexander.skwar.name (Alexander Skwar) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:11:54 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create References: Message-ID: <1949176.dUVJMjM8vi@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info> Alexander Skwar wrote: > Hallo! > > I'm trying to install something using pkg-get on Solaris 10 machine. This > fails: > > root at svnds01 ~ # pkg-get -i md5sum > WARNING: gpg not found > /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[24]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create > /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[25]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create Hm. I'm still getting this /dev/fd/2 error message. This time, it's in a different line though: root at svnds01 ~ # pkg-get -i ircii /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[56]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create Trying http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/csw/unstable/sparc/5.10/ircii-2.8.2-SunOS5.8-sparc-CSW.pkg.gz [...] Prior to installing ircii, I followed Earls hints: # pkgadd -d http://www.blastwave.org/pkg_get.pkg # cp -p /var/pkg-get/admin-fullauto /var/pkg-get/adminto ## /etc/profile add PATH=/opt/csw/bin:/usr/sfw/bin:/usr/ccs/bin:/usr/ucb:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin # pkg-get -i gnupg perl textutils wget # /opt/csw/bin/wget --output-document=pgp.key http://www.blastwave.org/mirrors.html # gpg --import pgp.key use_gpg and use_md5 are NOT set to false in pkg-get.conf. They are left to the default values: root at svnds01 ~ # grep use_ /opt/csw/etc/pkg-get.conf #use_gpg=false #use_md5=false What am I missing this time? And when I set "use_md5=false", I'm getting more /dev/fd/2 error messages: root at svnds01 ~ # pkg-get -i ircii /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[56]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create /opt/csw/bin/pkg-get[7]: /dev/fd/2: cannot create md5 utility temporarily non-functional assuming local file ircii-2.8.2-SunOS5.8-sparc-CSW.pkg.gz valid to use Analysing special files... [...] Best regards, Alexander Skwar From Maunir.shah at knowles.com Wed Aug 15 20:37:48 2007 From: Maunir.shah at knowles.com (Shah, Maunir) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:37:48 -0500 Subject: [csw-users] Apache and mod_jk2 Message-ID: I installed apache v1.3.34 (CSWapache) and mod_jk2 v2.0.2 (CSWmodjk) and whenever I try to start it, I get the module error. OS is Solaris 10 and has the latest patches. I can't get this to work at all. If I remove my mod_jk2.conf file line from httpd.conf, then it's fine. But, that defeats the purpose. I know I'm missing something but just can seem to figure out what it is. [Wed Aug 15 18:12:31 2007] ( info) [mod_jk2.c (208)]: Set serverRoot /j2ee/apache Create config for main host Syntax error on line 6 of /j2ee/local/conf/mod_jk2.conf: Invalid command 'JkWorkersFile', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration /j2ee/apache/bin/apachectl startssl: httpd could not be started cat /j2ee/local/conf/mod_jk2.conf LoadModule jk2_module /j2ee/apache/libexec/mod_jk2.so JkWorkersFile "/j2ee/apache/conf/workers2.properties" JkLogFile "/j2ee/tomcat/logs/mod_jk.log" JkLogLevel info JkMount /*.jsp ajp13 My httpd.conf (some of the lines that reflect mod_jk2) LoadModule jk2_module libexec/mod_jk2.so #I have tried commenting out mod_jk2.c lines, and have added the mod_jk2.conf settings as well. And both doesn't to work. # For mod_jk2 support. Added by CSWmodjk2 Include /j2ee/local/conf/mod_jk2.conf Maunir Shah 630-285-5875 - desk 630-550-6266 - cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aaron at ernieball.com Wed Aug 15 23:21:48 2007 From: aaron at ernieball.com (Aaron Wilson) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:21:48 -0700 Subject: [csw-users] Bacula 2.2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46C36E6C.4050404@ernieball.com> I'm not sure who is responsible for putting Bacula 2.2 up in testing. I'm guessing Alex Moore since he is listed as the maintainer for the Bacula packages in unstable. I've gotten 2.2 up and running beautifully. Thanks for that. I did have a question though. Would it be possible to compile it with Bat enabled? I've heard Bat is being included in the newer 2.2 builds and is probably one of the better gui's for Bacula. I just looked at the configuration options for compiling bacula 2.2 and there is a --enable-bat switch. Maybe you did I just didn't see how to run it. Either way, thanks for getting 2.2 up. Aaron From a.cervellin at acm.org Wed Aug 15 23:29:25 2007 From: a.cervellin at acm.org (Alessio) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:29:25 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Bacula 2.2 In-Reply-To: <46C36E6C.4050404@ernieball.com> References: <46C36E6C.4050404@ernieball.com> Message-ID: <46C37035.8090901@acm.org> > I've gotten 2.2 up and running beautifully. Thanks for that. I did have > a question though. Would it be possible to compile it with Bat enabled? you can post this request on the blastwave bug tracker (mantis) so that the maintainer will get it From Maunir.shah at knowles.com Fri Aug 17 21:00:15 2007 From: Maunir.shah at knowles.com (Shah, Maunir) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:00:15 -0500 Subject: [csw-users] ldd on mod_jk2.so Message-ID: I installed this module to work with tomcat and when I do ldd it comes back with nothing. Am I missing something with the libraries or a path. 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I have no clue of how to test dovecot-sieve. Finally, if there are additional files needed for the dovecot-sieve package, please let me know and I can add them. Thanks, Alex -- From yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org Sat Aug 18 21:53:17 2007 From: yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org (Yann Rouillard) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:53:17 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Openssh upgrade problem under Solaris 10 for next package Message-ID: <1187466797.6053.90.camel@celaeno> Hi, Following smf support in last openssh package, I have some problems with the openssh upgrade for the next openssh package. Because of the process contract stuff, smf right now kills all ssh processes when the service is disabled. This is a bug in itself and leads to two problem when openssh will be upgraded: - Problem 1: all the sshd connections will be closed 60s maximum after the openssh package removal. Administrators may not be aware of this, and this could close the current ssh connection used to do the upgrade. - Problem 2: smf is still trying to shutdown the previous sshd service (waiting 60s before killing all sshd processes) when the new one is being installed. And after that the service goes into maintenance mode so the new sshd service will not be properly started. Hence you can end up in a situation where you have no more opened ssh connections and no way to open a new one. For now, here is what I intend to do or did: - for problem 1: I don't see any workaround, so I will warn blastwave users on -announce and -users before the next package will land in unstable. - for problem 2: I solved the problem by adding a little hack in preinstall, it will wait for the service to quit the 'online*' state and then will clear the service state, if it is in maintenance mode. This way, the sshd service will be restarted. Updated solaris 10 packages are available in /testing: http://www.blastwave.org/testing/openssh-4.6,REV=2007.08.17_rev=p1-SunOS5.10-i386-CSW.pkg.gz http://www.blastwave.org/testing/openssh-4.6,REV=2007.08.17_rev=p1-SunOS5.10-sparc-CSW.pkg.gz Comments and testing are welcome. These problems will only affect next upgrade, because starting with theses packages, I enabled solaris contract support for Solaris 10 which avoid the problem 1, and I now use the "-s" option for "svcadm disable" in preremove so that a service really is in the disabled state when the package is removed. Yann From dclarke at blastwave.org Sat Aug 18 22:23:46 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:23:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] Openssh upgrade problem under Solaris 10 for next package In-Reply-To: <1187466797.6053.90.camel@celaeno> References: <1187466797.6053.90.camel@celaeno> Message-ID: <63472.72.39.216.186.1187468626.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Firstly, Yann, this is top notch excellent work. I want you to know that I am very thankful for these packages and the work you do. Also .. I'll watch for you post to announce and if we can make a nice easy README then I'll get it on the homepage as well as on a static permanent page on the site like so : http://www.blastwave.org/articles/BLS-0043/index.html more comments below : > Hi, > > Following smf support in last openssh package, I have some problems with the openssh upgrade for the next openssh package. > > Because of the process contract stuff, smf right now kills all ssh processes when the service is disabled. > > This is a bug in itself and leads to two problem when openssh will be upgraded: > > - Problem 1: all the sshd connections will be closed 60s maximum after the > openssh package removal. Administrators may not be aware of this, and this could close the current ssh connection used to do the upgrade. > > - Problem 2: smf is still trying to shutdown the previous sshd service > (waiting 60s before killing all sshd processes) when the new one is being installed. And after that the service goes into maintenance mode so the new sshd service will not be properly started. > > Hence you can end up in a situation where you have no more opened ssh connections and no way to open a new one. > > > For now, here is what I intend to do or did: > > - for problem 1: I don't see any workaround, so I will warn blastwave users > on -announce and -users before the next package will land in unstable. > > - for problem 2: I solved the problem by adding a little hack in > preinstall, it will wait for the service to quit the 'online*' state and then will clear the service state, if it is in maintenance mode. This way, the sshd service will be restarted. > > Updated solaris 10 packages are available in /testing: > http://www.blastwave.org/testing/openssh-4.6,REV=2007.08.17_rev=p1-SunOS5.10-i386-CSW.pkg.gz http://www.blastwave.org/testing/openssh-4.6,REV=2007.08.17_rev=p1-SunOS5.10-sparc-CSW.pkg.gz > > Comments and testing are welcome. > > These problems will only affect next upgrade, because starting with theses packages, I enabled solaris contract support for Solaris 10 > which avoid the problem 1, and I now use the "-s" option for "svcadm disable" in preremove so that a service really > is in the disabled state when the package is removed. > I think that these packages need to be handled with some degree of care. I have been giving this some thought and I'd like to institute a testing form or test report that needs to be filled out on packages like this. Please hear me out on this if you will. Some packages, like gzip, need minimal testing in order to verify that they perform as expected and install correctly. Other packages like browsers ( SeaMonkey in particular ) need lots of testing with various mixed pages of various encryption levels and with Shockwave flash plugins and java etc etc etc on both Sparc and x86 for more than just Solaris 8. It is my sad duty to report that I still have a sun4m machine in fact and from time to time I'll use it. :-P Packages like OpenSSH or OpenSSL require more extensive tests. Something organized and rigourous. Within reason. The mathematician within me knows that we can not achieve a rigourous proof that provides certainty. We can only test test test on every platform reasonable and then sign off saying "yes, that works as expected in my opinion". I will test the OpenSSH packages on Sparc for both Solaris 8, Solaris Nevada ( Express Release 64a ) as well as Solaris 10 at Global Zone and non-global zone. I would think that we can create a test matrix that shows what was tested, on what platform and who did the test : WARNING : ASCII table ---------+----------------+--------------------+------------------ software | Solaris 8 | Solaris 10 Global | Solaris 10 Zone ---------+----------------+--------------------+------------------ openssh | Sparc: dclarke | Sparc: dclarke | Sparc: dclarke | x86 : | x86 : dclarke | x86 : dclarke | | AMD64: dclarke | AMD64: dclarke ---------+----------------+--------------------+------------------ Something like that but with Solaris Nevada Developers Release thrown in also as I thik that is an important release to test on. That should be build 70a to be released by Wed this week. Anyone have anything add? Like *what* the test would consist of on each platform and release. Perhaps large file scp and many small files scp and then just good old ssh with aes256-cbc block ciphers and things like that. Thoughts ? Dennis Clarke dclarke at opensolaris.org From asmoore at blastwave.org Sun Aug 19 16:54:48 2007 From: asmoore at blastwave.org (Alex Moore) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:54:48 -0500 Subject: [csw-users] NRPE SMF stop/restart methods. In-Reply-To: <1f8fae340707260647x282290ck7694519bc4a5ad51@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f8fae340707260647x282290ck7694519bc4a5ad51@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070819095448.00002458@sws602.mcsun.local> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:47:47 +0100 "Will McDonald" wrote: > Hi, > > I've just been setting up CSWnrpe 2.8.1,REV=2007.06.02 from Stable on > a Solaris 10 box and ran in to a minor problem, I don't know if it's > worth of a bug report but I'll post it for the archives anyway. > > In /opt/csw/lib/svc/method/svc-nrpe the stop/restart case statements > use: Thanks for this Will. It will be in the next package update, along with a few other things. Alex From ghenry at cmi.univ-mrs.fr Sun Aug 19 18:01:41 2007 From: ghenry at cmi.univ-mrs.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Henry?=) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:01:41 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] evince not showing fonts correctly? Message-ID: <46C86965.3050709@cmi.univ-mrs.fr> hello all, i'm trying to visualize this document: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/edu/nocost_resources/instructorguide.pdf i'm using evince 0.9.0 from blastwave, on solaris 10, and the result is unusable: http://www.latp.univ-mrs.fr/~henry/evince.png but with evince 0.6.1 compiled by Sun on Solaris Express Developer Edition (snv_64a), the result is correct. Anybody else got this problem? thanks for help, gerard From dclarke at blastwave.org Sun Aug 19 22:34:14 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:34:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] evince not showing fonts correctly? In-Reply-To: <46C86965.3050709@cmi.univ-mrs.fr> References: <46C86965.3050709@cmi.univ-mrs.fr> Message-ID: <59112.72.39.216.186.1187555654.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > hello all, > i'm trying to visualize this document: > http://opensolaris.org/os/community/edu/nocost_resources/instructorguide.pdf > > i'm using evince 0.9.0 from blastwave, on solaris 10, and the result is > unusable: > http://www.latp.univ-mrs.fr/~henry/evince.png wow .. that *is* ugly. it looks like a totally wrong font among other things. I always *hate* to say those magic words "works for me" but I just tested the latest evince from Sun thus : http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/blog/images/evince_081.png as well as the evince from Blastwave which I *know* works well : http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/blog/images/evince_090.png > but with evince 0.6.1 compiled by Sun on Solaris Express Developer > Edition (snv_64a), the result is correct. The latest version in snv_70 is evince 0.8.1 above but the version from Blastwave is 0.9.0 and it does work. What we really need to look at is evince 0.9.0 on Solaris 10 as you illustrate. I'll fire that up but I expect the same results. > > Anybody else got this problem? > not thus far. Dennis From trygvis at inamo.no Mon Aug 20 08:28:51 2007 From: trygvis at inamo.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trygve_Laugst=F8l?=) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 08:28:51 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] evince not showing fonts correctly? In-Reply-To: <46C86965.3050709@cmi.univ-mrs.fr> References: <46C86965.3050709@cmi.univ-mrs.fr> Message-ID: <46C934A3.1070200@inamo.no> G?rard Henry wrote: > hello all, > i'm trying to visualize this document: > http://opensolaris.org/os/community/edu/nocost_resources/instructorguide.pdf > > i'm using evince 0.9.0 from blastwave, on solaris 10, and the result is > unusable: > http://www.latp.univ-mrs.fr/~henry/evince.png > > but with evince 0.6.1 compiled by Sun on Solaris Express Developer > Edition (snv_64a), the result is correct. > > Anybody else got this problem? As Dennis said it sounds like the wrong font is picked (which in itself is rendered correctly), but I've also seen this bug which perhaps is related: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6566332 -- Trygve From dclarke at blastwave.org Mon Aug 20 08:46:04 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 02:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] evince not showing fonts correctly? In-Reply-To: <46C934A3.1070200@inamo.no> References: <46C86965.3050709@cmi.univ-mrs.fr> <46C934A3.1070200@inamo.no> Message-ID: <1502.72.39.216.186.1187592364.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > G?rard Henry wrote: >> hello all, >> i'm trying to visualize this document: >> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/edu/nocost_resources/instructorguide.pdf >> >> i'm using evince 0.9.0 from blastwave, on solaris 10, and the result is >> unusable: >> http://www.latp.univ-mrs.fr/~henry/evince.png >> >> but with evince 0.6.1 compiled by Sun on Solaris Express Developer >> Edition (snv_64a), the result is correct. >> >> Anybody else got this problem? > > As Dennis said it sounds like the wrong font is picked (which in itself > is rendered correctly), but I've also seen this bug which perhaps is > related: > > http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6566332 > I'm still looking into this. I have to do a fresh install and then make a snapshot of that. Then I'll add evince and do some tests. Dennis From yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org Mon Aug 20 18:14:31 2007 From: yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org (Yann Rouillard) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:14:31 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Openssh upgrade problem under Solaris 10 for next package In-Reply-To: <63472.72.39.216.186.1187468626.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <1187466797.6053.90.camel@celaeno> <63472.72.39.216.186.1187468626.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <1187626471.6921.24.camel@celaeno> > Also .. I'll watch for you post to announce and if we can make a nice easy > README then I'll get it on the homepage as well as on a static permanent > page on the site like so : > > http://www.blastwave.org/articles/BLS-0043/index.html That's a good idea. > I will test the OpenSSH packages on Sparc for both Solaris 8, Solaris > Nevada ( Express Release 64a ) as well as Solaris 10 at Global Zone and > non-global zone. I would think that we can create a test matrix that shows > what was tested, on what platform and who did the test : To me, the package maintainer was responsible for testing his packages, but: - Additional tests are always a good thing, especially for a package like openssh. - it's not always easy to have access to all setup (os, zone setup, or amd64 for 64 bits binaries/libraries). So I definitely welcome these additionnal testings. Another nice idea would be that maintainer have access to a set of machines with all configuration that should be tested, and where they can install and test their packages. Theses machines would need to be easily restored to the original state. Virtualization would definitely help here (qemu ?). > WARNING : ASCII table > > ---------+----------------+--------------------+------------------ > software | Solaris 8 | Solaris 10 Global | Solaris 10 Zone > ---------+----------------+--------------------+------------------ > openssh | Sparc: dclarke | Sparc: dclarke | Sparc: dclarke > | x86 : | x86 : dclarke | x86 : dclarke > | | AMD64: dclarke | AMD64: dclarke > ---------+----------------+--------------------+------------------ I think amd64 tests are only useful if 64 bits libraries/binaries are provided, that's not the case for openssh. I already tested Solaris 9 sparc and Solaris 10 x86 (no zone). > Something like that but with Solaris Nevada Developers Release thrown in > also as I thik that is an important release to test on. That should be build > 70a to be released by Wed this week. > > Anyone have anything add? Like *what* the test would consist of on each > platform and release. Perhaps large file scp and many small files scp and > then just good old ssh with aes256-cbc block ciphers and things like that. > > Thoughts ? I personnally test login to/from, scp to/from, sftp to/from and as the package provide a daemon, start/stop and upgrade from previous version. Yann From trygvis at inamo.no Tue Aug 21 13:12:12 2007 From: trygvis at inamo.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trygve_Laugst=F8l?=) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:12:12 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Openssh upgrade problem under Solaris 10 for next package In-Reply-To: <1187626471.6921.24.camel@celaeno> References: <1187466797.6053.90.camel@celaeno> <63472.72.39.216.186.1187468626.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <1187626471.6921.24.camel@celaeno> Message-ID: <46CAC88C.30504@inamo.no> Yann Rouillard wrote: > >> Also .. I'll watch for you post to announce and if we can make a nice easy >> README then I'll get it on the homepage as well as on a static permanent >> page on the site like so : >> >> http://www.blastwave.org/articles/BLS-0043/index.html > > That's a good idea. > >> I will test the OpenSSH packages on Sparc for both Solaris 8, Solaris >> Nevada ( Express Release 64a ) as well as Solaris 10 at Global Zone and >> non-global zone. I would think that we can create a test matrix that shows >> what was tested, on what platform and who did the test : > > To me, the package maintainer was responsible for testing his packages, but: > > - Additional tests are always a good thing, especially for a package like openssh. > > - it's not always easy to have access to all setup (os, zone setup, or amd64 for 64 bits binaries/libraries). > > So I definitely welcome these additionnal testings. > > Another nice idea would be that maintainer have access to a set of > machines with all configuration that should be tested, and where they > can install and test their packages. Theses machines would need to be > easily restored to the original state. > Virtualization would definitely help here (qemu ?). > >> WARNING : ASCII table >> >> ---------+----------------+--------------------+------------------ >> software | Solaris 8 | Solaris 10 Global | Solaris 10 Zone >> ---------+----------------+--------------------+------------------ >> openssh | Sparc: dclarke | Sparc: dclarke | Sparc: dclarke >> | x86 : | x86 : dclarke | x86 : dclarke >> | | AMD64: dclarke | AMD64: dclarke >> ---------+----------------+--------------------+------------------ > > I think amd64 tests are only useful if 64 bits libraries/binaries are > provided, that's not the case for openssh. > > I already tested Solaris 9 sparc and Solaris 10 x86 (no zone). > >> Something like that but with Solaris Nevada Developers Release thrown in >> also as I thik that is an important release to test on. That should be build >> 70a to be released by Wed this week. >> >> Anyone have anything add? Like *what* the test would consist of on each >> platform and release. Perhaps large file scp and many small files scp and >> then just good old ssh with aes256-cbc block ciphers and things like that. >> >> Thoughts ? > > I personnally test login to/from, scp to/from, sftp to/from and as the > package provide a daemon, start/stop and upgrade from previous version. Are these steps documented anywhere? It would be nice to have both user and developer information about the packages somewhere. Just useful bits on oddities with the package and testing procedures. Also it would be nice if there was a page describing how to set up things like Apache. pkg-get install apache2 goes almost all the way, but still I feel that there should be a document describing where the configuration files are and how to import the cswapache2 SMF service into the system. Perhaps trac can be that documentation site as well? -- Trygve From yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org Tue Aug 21 14:00:17 2007 From: yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org (Yann Rouillard) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:00:17 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Openssh upgrade problem under Solaris 10 for next package In-Reply-To: <46CAC88C.30504@inamo.no> References: <1187466797.6053.90.camel@celaeno> <63472.72.39.216.186.1187468626.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <1187626471.6921.24.camel@celaeno> <46CAC88C.30504@inamo.no> Message-ID: <1187697617.7082.20.camel@celaeno> Le mardi 21 ao?t 2007 ? 13:12 +0200, Trygve Laugst?l a ?crit : > > I personnally test login to/from, scp to/from, sftp to/from and as > the > > package provide a daemon, start/stop and upgrade from previous > version. > > Are these steps documented anywhere? Not right now. Might be interesting but personnally I don't consider this first priority. > It would be nice to have both user and developer information about > the > packages somewhere. Just useful bits on oddities with the package and > testing procedures. Some notes can be put on the package mantis page but it is maybe not very well known and used, and it might not be the best place. I think part of these information should be in the package, in /opt/csw/share/doc//README.CSW for example and a wiki-like page per package could also be nice so that user can add information. > > Also it would be nice if there was a page describing how to set up > things like Apache. pkg-get install apache2 goes almost all the way, > but > still I feel that there should be a document describing where the > configuration files are and how to import the cswapache2 SMF service > into the system. apache2 manifest isn't automatically imported in the smf repository ? Then that's probably a bug. Yann From trygvis at inamo.no Tue Aug 21 22:45:56 2007 From: trygvis at inamo.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trygve_Laugst=F8l?=) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:45:56 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Interpreting the dependency analysis after a completed packaging Message-ID: <46CB4F04.7070000@inamo.no> Hi When I'm packaging my package I'm getting this output after the last step of "gmake package" and I just want to make sure I understand the output. Examining dependancies in 'depend' file (May take a while) system CSWcommon common - common files and dirs for CSW packages application CSWncurses ncurses - ncurses library and utilities application CSWossl openssl - The Open Source toolkit for SSL and TLS. application SMCncurs ncurses SUGGESTION: you may want to add some or all of the following as depends: (Feel free to ignore SUNW or SPRO packages) > !SUNWcslr > *SUNWdpl > *SUNWlibms > SUNWcsl > SUNWcslr > SUNWcsr > SUNWlibmsr > SUNWopenssl-libraries Does this mean that my files/CSWerlang.depend file should look like this: system CSWcommon common application CSWncurses ncurses application CSWossl openssl application SMCncurs ncurses I would guess that I need to include depndencies on the other packages, but what should their prefix be? And what does the * and ? prefixes in the output mean? -- Trygve From cargdrac at hotmail.com Wed Aug 22 22:43:40 2007 From: cargdrac at hotmail.com (Mauricio Cerna) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:43:40 +0000 Subject: [csw-users] Problem Installing pkg-get Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From a.cervellin at acm.org Wed Aug 22 23:46:42 2007 From: a.cervellin at acm.org (Alessio) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:46:42 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Problem Installing pkg-get In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46CCAEC2.3040701@acm.org> Can you provide us the following info about your system? uname -a cat /etc/release echo $PATH df -F ufs -k ls -tm /var/sadm/patch Mauricio Cerna wrote: > Good Afternoon: > > My namee is Mauricio Cerna and I have a problem when trying to install > the pkg-get. > > The first time I tried to install it I ran the commands you specify in > your web but at the point where it says: > > "This package contains scripts which will be executed with super-user > permission during the process of installing this package. Do you want to > continue with the installation of [y,n,?] y" > > > > When I Typped Y i did nothing an just turn me back to the bash..... > > > The second time I tried to install it I can get to the point: > > "Select package(s) you wish to process (or 'all' to process all > packages). (default: all) [?,??,q]: " > > The shells shows a message like > > "pkgadd ERROR: the image of the temporal content file can not be > opened(error number 11: Resource temporaly not available)" > > And thats all...... > > > I dont know what could be going wrong.. and I really need to install > this package in order to get php on a sunfire...... > > I hope you can help me cause my job depends on this > > Have a Good Day > > > Atte: > > > Mauricio Cerna > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Consigue aqu? las mejores y mas recientes ofertas de trabajo EE.UU. Clic > aqu? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users at lists.blastwave.org > https://lists.blastwave.org/mailman/listinfo/users From schluting at gmail.com Thu Aug 23 01:42:00 2007 From: schluting at gmail.com (Charlie Schluting) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:42:00 -0700 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? Message-ID: <839465400708221642rb3cdc47xb8bac4ed5b3b7ee8@mail.gmail.com> This directory used to come with an openssl package, I thought. Strangely, this directory has disappeared after an upgrade last week. I was using the thawte premium cert in that directory :( I currently don't see any openssl packages with CA certs.. what am I missing? Thanks, -Charlie From schluting at gmail.com Thu Aug 23 01:55:03 2007 From: schluting at gmail.com (Charlie Schluting) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:55:03 -0700 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <839465400708221642rb3cdc47xb8bac4ed5b3b7ee8@mail.gmail.com> References: <839465400708221642rb3cdc47xb8bac4ed5b3b7ee8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <839465400708221655s6202667bid679592b4498969e@mail.gmail.com> Aside from that, mod_ldap and py_ldap no longer work with SSL or TLS, even after I put the CA cert back in place. I haven't been able to figure out why... they connect to the LDAP server, and then disconnect (from the server's point of view). Apache debug logs say that SSL negotiation was successful, then report a bind error.. odd. Any insight? :) On 8/22/07, Charlie Schluting wrote: > This directory used to come with an openssl package, I thought. > > Strangely, this directory has disappeared after an upgrade last week. > I was using the thawte premium cert in that directory :( > > I currently don't see any openssl packages with CA certs.. what am I missing? > > Thanks, > -Charlie > From cargdrac at hotmail.com Thu Aug 23 01:58:31 2007 From: cargdrac at hotmail.com (Mauricio Cerna) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:58:31 +0000 Subject: [csw-users] Problem Installing pkg-get In-Reply-To: <46CCAEC2.3040701@acm.org> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org Thu Aug 23 02:14:16 2007 From: yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org (Yann Rouillard) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 02:14:16 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <839465400708221642rb3cdc47xb8bac4ed5b3b7ee8@mail.gmail.com> References: <839465400708221642rb3cdc47xb8bac4ed5b3b7ee8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1187828056.6285.5.camel@celaeno> Le mercredi 22 ao?t 2007 ? 16:42 -0700, Charlie Schluting a ?crit : > This directory used to come with an openssl package, I thought. > > Strangely, this directory has disappeared after an upgrade last week. > I was using the thawte premium cert in that directory :( > > I currently don't see any openssl packages with CA certs.. what am I missing? Definitely a bug. Will be fixed in the next openssl package which is right now waiting in the newpkgs queue. yann From yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org Thu Aug 23 02:16:40 2007 From: yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org (Yann Rouillard) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 02:16:40 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <839465400708221655s6202667bid679592b4498969e@mail.gmail.com> References: <839465400708221642rb3cdc47xb8bac4ed5b3b7ee8@mail.gmail.com> <839465400708221655s6202667bid679592b4498969e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1187828200.6285.7.camel@celaeno> Le mercredi 22 ao?t 2007 ? 16:55 -0700, Charlie Schluting a ?crit : > Aside from that, mod_ldap and py_ldap no longer work with SSL or TLS, > even after I put the CA cert back in place. I haven't been able to > figure out why... they connect to the LDAP server, and then disconnect > (from the server's point of view). Apache debug logs say that SSL > negotiation was successful, then report a bind error.. odd. > > Any insight? :) Can you give me the easier way to reproduce your bug ? Yann From schluting at gmail.com Thu Aug 23 03:19:20 2007 From: schluting at gmail.com (Charlie Schluting) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:19:20 -0700 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <1187828200.6285.7.camel@celaeno> References: <839465400708221642rb3cdc47xb8bac4ed5b3b7ee8@mail.gmail.com> <839465400708221655s6202667bid679592b4498969e@mail.gmail.com> <1187828200.6285.7.camel@celaeno> Message-ID: <839465400708221819h260ec020s614f3817dc58add4@mail.gmail.com> On 8/22/07, Yann Rouillard wrote: > > Can you give me the easier way to reproduce your bug ? > > Yann Not really :) I will try to create a test case that doesn't involve LDAP, if possible. Might wait for the new openssl package first.. -Charlie From dclarke at blastwave.org Thu Aug 23 04:30:37 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:30:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <839465400708221642rb3cdc47xb8bac4ed5b3b7ee8@mail.gmail.com> References: <839465400708221642rb3cdc47xb8bac4ed5b3b7ee8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <33372.72.39.216.186.1187836237.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > This directory used to come with an openssl package, I thought. > > Strangely, this directory has disappeared after an upgrade last week. > I was using the thawte premium cert in that directory :( > > I currently don't see any openssl packages with CA certs.. what am I > missing? > $ pkginfo -l CSWosslrt PKGINST: CSWosslrt NAME: openssl_rt - Openssl runtime libraries CATEGORY: application ARCH: i386 VERSION: 0.9.8,REV=2007.08.01_rev=e BASEDIR: / VENDOR: http://www.openssl.org/source/ packaged for CSW by Yann Rouillard PSTAMP: yann at isis-20070801113609 INSTDATE: Aug 06 2007 14:43 HOTLINE: http://www.blastwave.org/bugtrack/ EMAIL: yann at blastwave.org STATUS: completely installed FILES: 80 installed pathnames 2 shared pathnames 8 directories 19 executables 25302 blocks used (approx) Dennis From a.cervellin at acm.org Thu Aug 23 09:32:42 2007 From: a.cervellin at acm.org (Alessio) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:32:42 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] Problem Installing pkg-get In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46CD381A.3070100@acm.org> > Althought.. Now it seems that the same error comes with each package I > try to install... do you mean any package you try to install with pkgadd or pkg-get? if it is with pkgadd, then you may have fallen in one of the many bugs solaris' pkgadd had lately... maybe installing the latest cluster patch, if possible, could help. of course, a reboot would be a nice try too. but if it's a production server, well... good luck! From a.cervellin at virgilio.it Thu Aug 23 11:07:42 2007 From: a.cervellin at virgilio.it (Alessio Cervellin) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:07:42 +0100 (GMT+01:00) Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? Message-ID: <11491fa2054.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> ----Messaggio originale---- Da: dclarke at blastwave.org Data: 23-ago-2007 4.30 A: "questions and discussions" Cc: "questions and discussions" Ogg: Re: [csw- users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? >> I currently don't see any openssl packages with CA certs.. what am I >> missing? > $ pkginfo -l CSWosslrt it does not contain any certificate... as confirmed by yann, this is a packaging bug. From cargdrac at hotmail.com Thu Aug 23 16:08:12 2007 From: cargdrac at hotmail.com (Mauricio Cerna) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:08:12 +0000 Subject: [csw-users] Problem Installing pkg-get In-Reply-To: <46CD381A.3070100@acm.org> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dclarke at blastwave.org Thu Aug 23 16:55:13 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:55:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <11491fa2054.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> References: <11491fa2054.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> Message-ID: <34402.72.39.216.186.1187880913.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > ----Messaggio originale---- > Da: dclarke at blastwave.org > Data: 23-ago-2007 > 4.30 > A: "questions and discussions" > Cc: > "questions and discussions" > Ogg: Re: [csw- > users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? > > >>> I currently don't see any openssl > packages with CA certs.. what am I >>> missing? > >> $ pkginfo -l > CSWosslrt > > it does not contain any certificate... as confirmed by yann, > this is a packaging bug. then what is this on my machine here ? $ grep cert /var/sadm/install/contents | grep csw | grep thaw /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem f none 0644 root bin 1127 27384 1185982561 CSWosslrt /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCp.pem f none 0644 root bin 1155 30094 1185982561 CSWosslrt $ $ file /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem: ascii text $ cat /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem -----BEGIN CERTIFICATE----- MIIDEzCCAnygAwIBAgIBATANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADCBxDELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx FTATBgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMR0wGwYD VQQKExRUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyBjYzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlv biBTZXJ2aWNlcyBEaXZpc2lvbjEZMBcGA1UEAxMQVGhhd3RlIFNlcnZlciBDQTEm MCQGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYXc2VydmVyLWNlcnRzQHRoYXd0ZS5jb20wHhcNOTYwODAx MDAwMDAwWhcNMjAxMjMxMjM1OTU5WjCBxDELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgT DFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMR0wGwYDVQQKExRUaGF3 dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyBjYzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNl cyBEaXZpc2lvbjEZMBcGA1UEAxMQVGhhd3RlIFNlcnZlciBDQTEmMCQGCSqGSIb3 DQEJARYXc2VydmVyLWNlcnRzQHRoYXd0ZS5jb20wgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAD gY0AMIGJAoGBANOkUG7I/1Zr5s9dtuoMaHVHoqrC2oQl/Kj0R1HahbUgdJSGHg91 yekIYfUGbTBuFRkC6VLAYttNmZ7iagxEOM3+vuNkCXDF/rFrKbYvScg71CcEJRCX L+eQbcAoQpnXTEPew/UhbVSfXcNY4cDk2VuwuNy0e982OsK1ZiIS1ocNAgMBAAGj EzARMA8GA1UdEwEB/wQFMAMBAf8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQADgYEAB/pMaVz7lcxG 7oWDTSEwjsrZqG9JGubaUeNgcGyEYRGhGshIPllDfU+VPaGLtwtimHp1it2ITk6e QNuozDJ0uW8NxuOzRAvZim+aKZuZGCg70eNAKJpaPNW15yAbi8qkq43pUdniTCxZ qdq5snUb9kLy78fyGPmJvKP/iiMucEc= -----END CERTIFICATE----- $ Dennis From a.cervellin at virgilio.it Thu Aug 23 17:05:57 2007 From: a.cervellin at virgilio.it (Alessio Cervellin) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:05:57 +0100 (GMT+01:00) Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? Message-ID: <11493421ec1.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> >> it does not contain any certificate... as confirmed by yann, >> this is a packaging bug. > then what is this on my machine here ? who knows?.... check here: http://www.blastwave.org/filesearch/openssl_rt From yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org Thu Aug 23 17:10:23 2007 From: yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org (Yann Rouillard) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:10:23 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <34402.72.39.216.186.1187880913.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <11491fa2054.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> <34402.72.39.216.186.1187880913.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <1187881823.6503.3.camel@celaeno> > then what is this on my machine here ? > > $ grep cert /var/sadm/install/contents | grep csw | grep thaw > /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem f none 0644 root bin 1127 27384 1185982561 > CSWosslrt > /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCp.pem f none 0644 root bin 1155 30094 1185982561 > CSWosslrt > $ > > $ file /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem > /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem: ascii text > $ cat /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem Only affects sparc, did you check on x86 ? Yann From dclarke at blastwave.org Thu Aug 23 17:11:21 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 11:11:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <11493421ec1.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> References: <11493421ec1.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> Message-ID: <34436.72.39.216.186.1187881881.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> >>> it does not contain any certificate... as confirmed by yann, >>> this > is a packaging bug. > >> then what is this on my machine here ? > > who > knows?.... check here: http://www.blastwave.org/filesearch/openssl_rt hrmmm .. looks like a packaging bug. okay .. easy to fix all in all. Dennis From dclarke at blastwave.org Thu Aug 23 17:13:25 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 11:13:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <1187881823.6503.3.camel@celaeno> References: <11491fa2054.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> <34402.72.39.216.186.1187880913.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <1187881823.6503.3.camel@celaeno> Message-ID: <34438.72.39.216.186.1187882005.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > > >> then what is this on my machine here ? >> >> $ grep cert /var/sadm/install/contents | grep csw | grep thaw >> /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem f none 0644 root bin 1127 27384 1185982561 >> CSWosslrt >> /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCp.pem f none 0644 root bin 1155 30094 1185982561 >> CSWosslrt >> $ >> >> $ file /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem >> /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem: ascii text >> $ cat /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem > > Only affects sparc, did you check on x86 ? yes .. this is an x86 machine. One sec .. let look at Sol 8 Sparc $ uname -a SunOS pluto 5.8 Generic_117350-46 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-2 $ grep cert /var/sadm/install/contents | grep csw | grep thaw $ well then ... that takes care of that dc From yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org Thu Aug 23 17:17:46 2007 From: yann at pleiades.fr.eu.org (Yann Rouillard) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:17:46 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <34438.72.39.216.186.1187882005.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <11491fa2054.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> <34402.72.39.216.186.1187880913.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <1187881823.6503.3.camel@celaeno> <34438.72.39.216.186.1187882005.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <1187882266.6503.5.camel@celaeno> > $ uname -a > SunOS pluto 5.8 Generic_117350-46 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-2 > $ grep cert /var/sadm/install/contents | grep csw | grep thaw > $ > > well then ... that takes care of that Already done. Fixed packages are waiting in the newpkgs queue. Yann From dclarke at blastwave.org Thu Aug 23 20:44:37 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:44:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <1187882266.6503.5.camel@celaeno> References: <11491fa2054.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> <34402.72.39.216.186.1187880913.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <1187881823.6503.3.camel@celaeno> <34438.72.39.216.186.1187882005.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <1187882266.6503.5.camel@celaeno> Message-ID: <34747.72.39.216.186.1187894677.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > > >> $ uname -a >> SunOS pluto 5.8 Generic_117350-46 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-2 >> $ grep cert /var/sadm/install/contents | grep csw | grep thaw >> $ >> >> well then ... that takes care of that > > Already done. > Fixed packages are waiting in the newpkgs queue. testing ... The following files are already installed on the system and are being used by another package: * /opt/csw/ssl * - conflict with a file which does not belong to any package. Do you want to install these conflicting files [y,n,?,q] y ## Checking for setuid/setgid programs. Installing openssl_rt - Openssl runtime libraries as ## Installing part 1 of 1. /opt/csw/lib/engines/lib4758cca.so /opt/csw/lib/engines/libaep.so /opt/csw/lib/engines/libatalla.so /opt/csw/lib/engines/libchil.so /opt/csw/lib/engines/libcswift.so /opt/csw/lib/engines/libgmp.so /opt/csw/lib/engines/libnuron.so /opt/csw/lib/engines/libsureware.so /opt/csw/lib/engines/libubsec.so /opt/csw/lib/libcrypto.so /opt/csw/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7 /opt/csw/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8 /opt/csw/lib/libssl.so /opt/csw/lib/libssl.so.0.9.7 /opt/csw/lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 /opt/csw/lib/sparcv8plus+vis/libcrypto.so.0.9.7 /opt/csw/lib/sparcv8plus+vis/libcrypto.so.0.9.8 /opt/csw/lib/sparcv8plus+vis/libssl.so.0.9.7 /opt/csw/lib/sparcv8plus+vis/libssl.so.0.9.8 /opt/csw/lib/sparcv9/libcrypto.so /opt/csw/lib/sparcv9/libcrypto.so.0 /opt/csw/lib/sparcv9/libcrypto.so.0.9.7 /opt/csw/lib/sparcv9/libcrypto.so.0.9.8 /opt/csw/lib/sparcv9/libssl.so /opt/csw/lib/sparcv9/libssl.so.0 /opt/csw/lib/sparcv9/libssl.so.0.9.7 /opt/csw/lib/sparcv9/libssl.so.0.9.8 /opt/csw/share/doc/openssl_rt/changelog.CSW /opt/csw/ssl/certs/1e49180d.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/2edf7016.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/56e607f4.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/6adf0799.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/7651b327.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/7a9820c1.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/843b6c51.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/878cf4c6.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/RegTP-5R.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/RegTP-6R.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/a3c60019.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/aad3d04d.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/argena.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/argeng.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/c33a80d4.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/cdd7aee7.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/d4e39186.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/ddc328ff.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/demo/ca-cert.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/demo/dsa-ca.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/demo/dsa-pca.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/demo/nortelCA.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/demo/pca-cert.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/demo/timCA.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/demo/tjhCA.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/demo/vsigntca.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/eng1.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/eng2.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/eng3.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/eng4.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/eng5.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/expired/ICE-CA.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/expired/ICE-root.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/expired/ICE-user.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/expired/ICE.crl /opt/csw/ssl/certs/expired/RegTP-4R.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/expired/factory.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/expired/rsa-cca.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/expired/rsa-ssca.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/expired/vsign2.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/expired/vsign3.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/f73e89fd.0 /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCb.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/thawteCp.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/vsign1.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/vsign3.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/vsignss.pem /opt/csw/ssl/certs/wellsfgo.pem [ verifying class ] Installation of was successful. # Dennis Clarke From dclarke at blastwave.org Thu Aug 23 20:56:50 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] New OpenSSH Message-ID: <34759.72.39.216.186.1187895410.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Okay .. I have tested this on Solaris 8 and 10 on Sparc and x86 and it seems to work just fine. One exception is that on Solaris 10 x86 I saw that the installation resulted in the Sun OpenSSH service still running at the same time that the CSW OpenSSH service was running. I think we do need to pick one and only one after install. This is even working on Solaris 8 sun4m : SPARCstation 20 MP (4 X RT625), No Keyboard ROM Rev. 2.25R hyperSPARC, 256 MB memory installed, Serial #3547448. Ethernet address 8:0:20:21:b3:39, Host ID: 72362138. Rebooting with command: Boot device: /iommu/sbus/espdma at f,400000/esp at f,800000/sd at 3,0 File and args: SunOS Release 5.8 Version Generic_117350-47 32-bit Copyright 1983-2003 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved. WARNING: forceload of misc/md_trans failed WARNING: forceload of misc/md_raid failed WARNING: forceload of misc/md_hotspares failed WARNING: forceload of misc/md_sp failed configuring IPv4 interfaces: qe0. Hostname: fossil The system is coming up. Please wait. checking ufs filesystems /dev/rdsk/c0t1d0s5: is clean. /dev/md/rdsk/d7: is logging. /dev/md/rdsk/d5: is logging. . . . etc etc and then from another machine $ ping fossil fossil is alive $ /opt/csw/bin/ssh -2 -4 -e\^ -l dclarke -c aes256-cbc -v fossil OpenSSH_4.6p1, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007 debug1: Reading configuration data /opt/csw/etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Connecting to fossil [192.168.35.251] port 22. debug1: Connection established. debug1: identity file /export/home/dclarke/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 debug1: identity file /export/home/dclarke/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_4.6 debug1: match: OpenSSH_4.6 pat OpenSSH* debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.6 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug1: kex: server->client aes256-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: kex: client->server aes256-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(1024<4096<8192) sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY debug1: Host 'fossil' is known and matches the RSA host key. debug1: Found key in /export/home/dclarke/.ssh/known_hosts:4 debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sun Microsystems Inc. SunOS 5.8 Generic Patch February 2004 Solaris 8 2/04 s28s_hw4wos_05a SPARC Copyright 2004 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Assembled 08 January 2004 SunOS fossil 5.8 Generic_117350-47 sun4m sparc SUNW,SPARCstation-20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password debug1: Next authentication method: publickey debug1: Trying private key: /export/home/dclarke/.ssh/id_rsa debug1: PEM_read_PrivateKey failed debug1: read PEM private key done: type Enter passphrase for key '/export/home/dclarke/.ssh/id_rsa': debug1: read PEM private key done: type RSA debug1: Authentication succeeded (publickey). debug1: channel 0: new [client-session] debug1: Entering interactive session. Last login: Thu Aug 23 14:44:20 2007 from pluto --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sun Microsystems Inc. SunOS 5.8 Generic Patch February 2004 Solaris 8 2/04 s28s_hw4wos_05a SPARC Copyright 2004 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Assembled 08 January 2004 SunOS fossil 5.8 Generic_117350-47 sun4m sparc SUNW,SPARCstation-20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- $ $ uname -a SunOS fossil 5.8 Generic_117350-47 sun4m sparc SUNW,SPARCstation-20 $ debug1: need rekeying debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug1: rekeying in progress debug1: rekeying in progress debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug1: kex: server->client aes256-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: kex: client->server aes256-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(1024<4096<8192) sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY debug1: Host 'pluto' is known and matches the RSA host key. debug1: Found key in /export/home/dclarke/.ssh/known_hosts:5 debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct debug1: set_newkeys: rekeying debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug1: set_newkeys: rekeying debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received $ Its not quick but it works even with aes256-cbc ciphers. then again ..nothing is quick on a Sparc 20. Except may be old 8-bit DOOM. - Dennis Clarke From schluting at gmail.com Sat Aug 25 01:20:37 2007 From: schluting at gmail.com (Charlie Schluting) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:20:37 -0700 Subject: [csw-users] /opt/csw/ssl/certs ?? In-Reply-To: <34747.72.39.216.186.1187894677.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <11491fa2054.a.cervellin@virgilio.it> <34402.72.39.216.186.1187880913.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <1187881823.6503.3.camel@celaeno> <34438.72.39.216.186.1187882005.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <1187882266.6503.5.camel@celaeno> <34747.72.39.216.186.1187894677.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <839465400708241620r6374d61y943ee7634c0d5186@mail.gmail.com> On 8/23/07, Dennis Clarke wrote: > > Installation of was successful. Yep, and everything else works again for me too. Very strange.. From zizban at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 21:38:09 2007 From: zizban at gmail.com (Chris Turkel) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:38:09 -0400 Subject: [csw-users] pkg-get directory Message-ID: Since the default /var directory tends to fill up fast for me, what would be a better directory? I was thinking of /home/user/pkg-get/downloads/. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeremiah.johnson at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 21:44:10 2007 From: jeremiah.johnson at gmail.com (Jeremiah Johnson) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:44:10 -0500 Subject: [csw-users] pkg-get directory In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EB270A9-0F59-4BDD-9BDE-057F3AF7E944@gmail.com> How about a shared nfs space? -Jeremiah Johnson Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2007, at 2:38 PM, "Chris Turkel" wrote: > Since the default /var directory tends to fill up fast for me, what > would be a better directory? I was thinking of /home/user/pkg-get/ > downloads/. > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users at lists.blastwave.org > https://lists.blastwave.org/mailman/listinfo/users From William.Fennell at channing.harvard.edu Fri Aug 31 17:57:18 2007 From: William.Fennell at channing.harvard.edu (William M. Fennell) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:57:18 -0400 Subject: [csw-users] New Package? Message-ID: <46D83A5E.9050605@channing.harvard.edu> Hi, Is this the list to request somebody add a package to the blastwave distribution? Thanks, Bill -- -------------------- William M. Fennell, SCSA Senior Unix System Administrator Channing Laboratory From shuttlebox at gmail.com Fri Aug 31 18:02:05 2007 From: shuttlebox at gmail.com (shuttlebox) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:02:05 +0200 Subject: [csw-users] New Package? In-Reply-To: <46D83A5E.9050605@channing.harvard.edu> References: <46D83A5E.9050605@channing.harvard.edu> Message-ID: <625385e30708310902i1a471ce2sbce7f331b40c36a4@mail.gmail.com> On 8/31/07, William M. Fennell wrote: > Hi, > > Is this the list to request somebody add a package to the blastwave > distribution? I guess that's fine but there's also a package request web page: http://www.blastwave.org/pkgreq.php -- /peter From William.Fennell at channing.harvard.edu Fri Aug 31 18:04:24 2007 From: William.Fennell at channing.harvard.edu (William M. Fennell) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:04:24 -0400 Subject: [csw-users] New Package? In-Reply-To: <625385e30708310902i1a471ce2sbce7f331b40c36a4@mail.gmail.com> References: <46D83A5E.9050605@channing.harvard.edu> <625385e30708310902i1a471ce2sbce7f331b40c36a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46D83C08.4090700@channing.harvard.edu> shuttlebox wrote: > On 8/31/07, William M. Fennell wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Is this the list to request somebody add a package to the blastwave >> distribution? >> > > I guess that's fine but there's also a package request web page: > > http://www.blastwave.org/pkgreq.php > > Thanks! That's just what I needed. Bill -------------------- William M. Fennell, SCSA Senior Unix System Administrator Channing Laboratory From dclarke at blastwave.org Fri Aug 31 18:23:03 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:23:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] New Package? In-Reply-To: <46D83C08.4090700@channing.harvard.edu> References: <46D83A5E.9050605@channing.harvard.edu> <625385e30708310902i1a471ce2sbce7f331b40c36a4@mail.gmail.com> <46D83C08.4090700@channing.harvard.edu> Message-ID: <2107.72.39.216.186.1188577383.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > > > shuttlebox wrote: >> On 8/31/07, William M. Fennell >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Is this the list to request somebody add a package to the blastwave >>> distribution? >>> >> >> I guess that's fine but there's also a package request web page: >> >> http://www.blastwave.org/pkgreq.php >> >> > Thanks! That's just what I needed. >[what software, WHAT DOES IT DO, and where is the source code?] >It is an open source version of the S language. >The latest source is here: >http://cran.cnr.berkeley.edu/src/base/R-2/R-2.5.1.tar.gz I'm very curious about this. I was looking at building an open source implementation of Pascal after I get a few other things done and now I see this thing. The "S" language? Do we have a programming language for every letter of the alphabet now? :-) The old motto was that if it can't be done with Fortran then it isn't worth doing. A few years earlier we used to say "If it can't be done with assembly language then it can't be done at all." Guess I'm showing my age there. Dennis From William.Fennell at channing.harvard.edu Fri Aug 31 18:29:40 2007 From: William.Fennell at channing.harvard.edu (William M. Fennell) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:29:40 -0400 Subject: [csw-users] New Package? In-Reply-To: <2107.72.39.216.186.1188577383.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <46D83A5E.9050605@channing.harvard.edu> <625385e30708310902i1a471ce2sbce7f331b40c36a4@mail.gmail.com> <46D83C08.4090700@channing.harvard.edu> <2107.72.39.216.186.1188577383.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <46D841F4.5090301@channing.harvard.edu> Dennis Clarke wrote: >> shuttlebox wrote: >> >>> On 8/31/07, William M. Fennell >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Is this the list to request somebody add a package to the blastwave >>>> distribution? >>>> >>>> >>> I guess that's fine but there's also a package request web page: >>> >>> http://www.blastwave.org/pkgreq.php >>> >>> >>> >> Thanks! That's just what I needed. >> > > >> [what software, WHAT DOES IT DO, and where is the source code?] >> > > >> It is an open source version of the S language. >> The latest source is here: >> http://cran.cnr.berkeley.edu/src/base/R-2/R-2.5.1.tar.gz >> > > I'm very curious about this. I was looking at building an open source > implementation of Pascal after I get a few other things done and now I see > this thing. The "S" language? Do we have a programming language for every > letter of the alphabet now? :-) > > The old motto was that if it can't be done with Fortran then it isn't worth > doing. A few years earlier we used to say "If it can't be done with > assembly language then it can't be done at all." > > Guess I'm showing my age there. > > Dennis > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users at lists.blastwave.org > https://lists.blastwave.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Hi, This site is their FAQ. http://cran.r-project.org/faqs.html Bill -------------------- William M. Fennell, SCSA Senior Unix System Administrator Channing Laboratory From dclarke at blastwave.org Fri Aug 31 18:51:18 2007 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [csw-users] New Package? In-Reply-To: <46D841F4.5090301@channing.harvard.edu> References: <46D83A5E.9050605@channing.harvard.edu> <625385e30708310902i1a471ce2sbce7f331b40c36a4@mail.gmail.com> <46D83C08.4090700@channing.harvard.edu> <2107.72.39.216.186.1188577383.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> <46D841F4.5090301@channing.harvard.edu> Message-ID: <2127.72.39.216.186.1188579078.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > > > Dennis Clarke wrote: >>> shuttlebox wrote: >>> >>>> On 8/31/07, William M. Fennell >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Is this the list to request somebody add a package to the blastwave >>>>> distribution? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I guess that's fine but there's also a package request web page: >>>> >>>> http://www.blastwave.org/pkgreq.php >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Thanks! That's just what I needed. >>> >> >> >>> [what software, WHAT DOES IT DO, and where is the source code?] >>> >> >> >>> It is an open source version of the S language. >>> The latest source is here: >>> http://cran.cnr.berkeley.edu/src/base/R-2/R-2.5.1.tar.gz >>> > > This site is their FAQ. http://cran.r-project.org/faqs.html The S language FAQ talks about "R" ? It says : R has three collections of answers to frequently asked questions: so .. if I get an hour or two to look at it .. I'll look at it. Dennis