[csw-maintainers] new mailing list?

[Sebastian Kayser]

James Lee wrote on 20.01.2010 17:47:
> On 20/01/10, 14:46:49, Maciej "(Matchek)" Blizinski <maciej at opencsw.org>
> wrote regarding Re: [csw-maintainers] new mailing list?:
>>> There may be some messages associated with refusal. If broadcast and
>>> recorded by a mailing list there is the potential for public humiliation.
> 
>> Humiliation of whom do you mean?
> 
> Presumably the idiot that submits a sparc package with intel binaries.
> If you are not embarrassed to submit packages with such fundamental
> mistakes your standards are low.

Could we please just drop the harsh word "humiliation" (and the attitude
that usually comes along with it wherever one ventures)? There is always
something to learn, everyone makes mistakes from time to time and those
who are learning should _not_ feel like they are at the eager eyes of
those who know better and who are just waiting to humiliate them.

>>> Any useful information should be condensed from the flow and put on the
>>> maintainers' list or a "How (not) to make a package" web page.  I'll
>>> start here with common problems and top tips:
> 
> ...
> 
>> Everything that can be automated, should be automated.  Documenting
>> isn't a bad idea, but the things you've described above, thinking
>> aside, are mundane and boring.  Doing them each time for each package
>> is a waste of braincycles and keystrokes.
> 
> Yes it's boring and mundane.  Please explain why someone else should
> do this for you?  More importantly why I have been.  You seem to not
> understand anything about the effort involved in QA.

>From what I understand, Maciej tried to point out that if something is
"boring and mundane" and can be automated, why not let's do it and save
everyone's braincycles and keystrokes, especially yours and Phil's. He
also offered a hand at extending checkpkg so that it can catch more of
those commonly encountered issues. I doubt very much that he doesn't
appreciate what the two of you are doing.

Sebastian