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<p><span class="HwtZe" lang="en"><span class="jCAhz ChMk0b"><span
class="ryNqvb">And what's more, Openindiana has released a
beta version for SPARС CPUs.</span></span> <span
class="jCAhz"><span class="ryNqvb">)</span></span></span></p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">05.01.2025 06:04, Jonathan Cox пишет:<br>
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Interesting to know what GCC has returned support for SPARC. The
LEON series of SPARC processors are still used in embedded systems
today, especially for space applications.
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: Time for some updates</font>
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<p><span class="x_HwtZe" lang="en"><span
class="x_jCAhz x_ChMk0b"><span class="x_ryNqvb">I built
GCC 6.5 from source on Solaris 10 (latest release update
1/13) just a couple of months ago.</span></span>
<span class="x_jCAhz x_ChMk0b"><span class="x_ryNqvb">It
builds without any problems with the latest libraries
from OpenCSW and on the first try.</span></span>
<span class="x_jCAhz x_ChMk0b"><span class="x_ryNqvb">Version
6.5 already supports C++17 (partially) with an explicit
specification of the standard (-std=c++17).</span></span>
<span class="x_jCAhz x_ChMk0b"><span class="x_ryNqvb">I
studied the issue and found out that it is possible to
build GCC up to version 9.5 on Solaris 10 and the only
reason why I did not do this was compatibility with
already built packages on my setups.</span></span>
<span class="x_jCAhz x_ChMk0b"><span class="x_ryNqvb">At the
moment, native compatibility with C++14 is enough for
me.</span></span></span></p>
<p><span class="x_HwtZe" lang="en"><span class="x_jCAhz"><span
class="x_ryNqvb">Unfortunately, I was unable to compile
Perl version 5.40 as easily and effortlessly due to a
stupid error with the UTF8 locale.</span></span>
<span class="x_jCAhz x_ChMk0b"><span class="x_ryNqvb">I have
not yet found and written a comprehensive guide to this
build.</span></span>
<span class="x_jCAhz x_ChMk0b"><span class="x_ryNqvb">Unlike
GCC.</span></span><span class="x_jCAhz x_ChMk0b"><span
class="x_ryNqvb"> You could say that this is also a
hobby for me (albeit a forced one).</span></span>
<span class="x_jCAhz x_ChMk0b"><span class="x_ryNqvb">True,
my hardware is somewhat younger, it is only fourteen
years old )</span></span></span></p>
<p><span class="x_HwtZe" lang="en"><span
class="x_jCAhz x_ChMk0b"><span class="x_ryNqvb">By the
way, I haven't looked into the issue in depth, but I
heard that GCC has returned support for SPARC processors
to compilers of versions later than 9. However, I'm not
entirely sure about full compatibility with Solaris 10
libC, as Solaris 10 support was declared to be
discontinued _after_ version 9. However, version 9.5
should be supported and I hope, if I have some free
time, to run a test build on my build environment - just
for show.</span></span></span></p>
<p><span class="x_HwtZe" lang="en"><span
class="x_jCAhz x_ChMk0b"><span class="x_ryNqvb">AFAIK, GCC
9 is fully compatible with C11/C++17.<br>
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<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">04.01.2025 23:29, Jonathan Cox
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<div dir="auto">By the way, I invested quite a bit of time
recently building new packages for Solaris 10 SPARC,
including Python, SDL, Numpy, Geany and many others. I took
detailed notes and had a fair amount of success, although I
wasn't able to figure out how to build newer versions of
GCC. This became a limiting factor because many open source
projects, especially anything GNU, have moved to C++17 and
even newer versions (for no apparent reason, as far as I can
tell). </div>
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<div dir="auto">I did inquire about releasing my builds in the
OpenCSW repository, but I never got a response.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I am interested in how to compile GCC 9 for
Solaris 10, as well as generating these updated packages on
OpenCSW.</div>
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<div dir="auto">It's really a hobby, I'm not doing this
because I'm constrained to 25 year old hardware...</div>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: Time for some updates</font>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_x_gmail_attr">On Sat 4 Jan
2025, 14:58 Yuri via users, <<a
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<p><span lang="en"><span><span>Gentlemen, don't
you think it's time for some updates?</span></span><br>
</span></p>
<p><span lang="en"><span><span>For example, Perl.</span></span>
<span><span>It's too old, 14 years is a bit
too much to run most of the CPAN modules.
Or GCC.</span></span>
<span><span>I'd like to see at least 6.5 in
2024. Or openvpn.</span></span> <span>
<span>The current version is outdated.</span></span>
<span><span><br>
</span></span></span></p>
<p><span lang="en"><span><span>Redis is generally
archaic, given that 5.0.14 is built from
sources on Solaris 10 without any
problems.</span></span>
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<p><span lang="en"><span><span>I understand that
the problem of maintainers has not gone
away and in general - if you want
something, build it yourself.</span></span><br>
</span></p>
<p><span lang="en"><span><span>But let's at least
refresh Perl and GCC a little, okay?</span></span>
<span><span>They are hopelessly ancient. If I
can build a compiler from sources myself,
whichever I like, then I couldn't build
Perl.</span></span>
<span><span>Not with any attempt.</span></span></span></p>
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<div dir="auto">I think you already understand the problem
here. The people that were investing their time in this
aren't doing that much anymore because they've moved on.
It's been a long time since I logged into any Solaris
machine at this point and it's unlikely I will in the
future. If I do, it's very unlikely to be building
software on it. I think many other folks are in a
similar position because they are scratching different
itches in different technical contexts. Not everyone has
moved on, but those still here seemingly don't have a
need to update these packages.</div>
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<div dir="auto">If you need these, I suggest you roll up
your sleeves. Dago can still get you access to the build
farm where you'd have a pretty straight forward path to
building the updated packages you want.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I know this doesn't actually help you, but
at least it confirms your suspicion. </div>
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<div dir="auto">Thanks</div>
<div dir="auto">-Ben </div>
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<p><span lang="en"><span><span>Maybe there are
newer versions posted somewhere and I just
don't see them?</span></span>
<span><span>For example, in unstable or
testing?</span></span></span></p>
<p><span lang="en"><span><span>WBR, Yuri<br>
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