[csw-maintainers] Buildfarm setup - documentation

Dagobert Michelsen dam at opencsw.org
Thu Oct 3 19:27:13 CEST 2013

Hi Peter,

Am 03.10.2013 um 16:12 schrieb Peter FELECAN <pfelecan at opencsw.org>:
> Dagobert Michelsen <dam at opencsw.org> writes:
>> Am 03.10.2013 um 15:57 schrieb Peter FELECAN <pfelecan at opencsw.org>:
>>> Dagobert Michelsen <dam at opencsw.org> writes:
>>>> Adding another ISA as option will probably take quite some time.
>>>> Peter, do you think your use case is common enough to justify the
>>>> extra work for Yann? Would using a VM on a more modern machine
>>>> be also possible?
>>> Using a VM, even on modern machine, has it's own inconvenients and,
>>> frankly, who can imagine a build farm on VMs? It requires bare metal for
>>> a lot of reasons.
>> Umh, the buildfarm you use runs on VMs ;-) That include all *x hosts.
>> What reasons do you have in mind preventing running a farm on
>> virtualized environments?
> I know that. And suffer from that, don't get me wrong but at least on
> i386 the build times are often one order of magnitude slower than on my
> similar bare metal on which, of course, I'm alone. It's often more easier
> to get a bunch of oldish bare metal than have a server capable of
> well supporting VMs at a reasonable performance. And I'm not even
> mentioning SPARC bare metal versus virtualization for which I have not
> enough experience.

Ah yes, I can understand that, especially that you are often working on
very large sets of packages like texlive or qt4.

> Anyhow, the point is not this, the point is that we have stuff which
> doesn't run on the lowest denominator that we support and that can be
> quite surprising, even for me.

This is also very true. IIRC we raised the general build level to
PentiumPro, but as we didn't have negative feedback on openssl before
I would like to hear some more feedback. Maybe we can have some more thoughts
on the base cpu level for x86 from other maintainers?

Best regards

  -- Dago

"You don't become great by trying to be great, you become great by wanting to do something,
and then doing it so hard that you become great in the process." - xkcd #896

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