[csw-users] Submitting an ncmpc package

Trygve Laugstøl trygvis at inamo.no
Wed Aug 8 22:47:48 CEST 2007


Trygve Laugstøl wrote:
> Dennis Clarke wrote:
>>> Trygve Laugstøl wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, sorry. I was (or am) a bit annoyed that I didn't get a single
>>>> response, even if it was to say that "we're busy".
>>> you didn't know, but your mail has been also forwarded to the private of
>>> the maintainers mailing list to discuss about that... so you didn't get
>>> ignored
>>>
>>>> How long should I expect to wait?
>>> well, the 1st prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is patience,
>>> because it's an hard work, without any retribution and with many users
>>> which keep asking many things...
>>>
>>>> you can't expect me to stay around for ever either.
>>> well, the 2nd prerequisite to be a blastwave maintainer is the
>>> willingness to stay around for as long time as possibile, since there
>>> are already too many abandoned packages...
>>>
>>>> The most important thing to me is that I have somewhere to put my
>>>> packages so I know that my work won't be lost. I wouldn't mind it if
>>>> someone would commit my packages for me, I'm not demanding to become a
>>>> maintainer straight away.
>>> nobody will commit your packages, because this is not how blastwave
>>> packages submission process works:
>>> 1) you have to signup as maintainer, possibly for more than 1 package.
>>> Remember: a maintainer is someone who has a lot of spare time, is
>>> willing to maintain his packages for more than 1 year, and daily uses
>>> them for personal or professional purposes
>>> 2) you have to wait for a response
>>> 3) you'll have
>>> to signup again if nobody answers you (and there are many reasons this
>>> could happen)
>>> 4) if someone will answer you, then you'll have to prove you are really
>>> willing to be a maintainer (but only Phil knows how) and possibly you've
>>> to provide a "bombastic" email address
>>> 5) you'll get access to the blastwave build machines: only there you can
>>> build your packages, following exactly the guidelines [1]
>>> 6) once a package has bee built, you have to submit it to the other
>>> maintainers for testing and QA
>>> 7) finally, the package will be submitted in the unstable catalog
>>> 8) after N months, if the package does not receive any major bug report
>>> on mantis, it will be automatically submitted to the stable catalog
>>>
>>> Love it or hate it, this is blastwave.
>> Please allow me to add one last point.
>>
>>   9) things have worked like this year after year after year and it may
>>      be conservative, somewhat self critical and overly careful
>>
>>                          * but it works *
>>
>> We have been discussing the issues behind closed doors for some time now and
>> we will probably come up with a way to accomodate people better.  If we can.
> 
> Just by doing more stuff in public (like Sun is trying to) would be 
> super great for people trying to get involved. Sometimes people would 
> like to contribute more than actual packages, like documentation, plain 
> testing or hardware. Currently that is something that is hard at 
> blastwave as "getting in touch" seem hard (it might not be the case, but 
> it is not as inviting as other organizations).

That said, there are of course many reasons to have private lists, but 
it is a matter of which list the message should go to by default.

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Trygve



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