Time for some updates

[Yuri]

And what's more, Openindiana has released a beta version for SPARС CPUs. )

05.01.2025 06:04, Jonathan Cox пишет:
> Interesting to know what GCC has returned support for SPARC. The LEON 
> series of SPARC processors are still used in embedded systems today, 
> especially for space applications.
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> *From:* users <users-bounces+joncox=alum.mit.edu at lists.opencsw.org> on 
> behalf of Yuri via users <users at lists.opencsw.org>
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 4, 2025 3:26:57 PM
> *To:* users at lists.opencsw.org <users at lists.opencsw.org>
> *Cc:* Yuri <yvoinov at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Time for some updates
>
> I built GCC 6.5 from source on Solaris 10 (latest release update 1/13) 
> just a couple of months ago. It builds without any problems with the 
> latest libraries from OpenCSW and on the first try. Version 6.5 
> already supports C++17 (partially) with an explicit specification of 
> the standard (-std=c++17). I studied the issue and found out that it 
> is possible to build GCC up to version 9.5 on Solaris 10 and the only 
> reason why I did not do this was compatibility with already built 
> packages on my setups. At the moment, native compatibility with C++14 
> is enough for me.
>
> Unfortunately, I was unable to compile Perl version 5.40 as easily and 
> effortlessly due to a stupid error with the UTF8 locale. I have not 
> yet found and written a comprehensive guide to this build. Unlike 
> GCC.You could say that this is also a hobby for me (albeit a forced 
> one). True, my hardware is somewhat younger, it is only fourteen years 
> old )
>
> By the way, I haven't looked into the issue in depth, but I heard that 
> GCC has returned support for SPARC processors to compilers of versions 
> later than 9. However, I'm not entirely sure about full compatibility 
> with Solaris 10 libC, as Solaris 10 support was declared to be 
> discontinued _after_ version 9. However, version 9.5 should be 
> supported and I hope, if I have some free time, to run a test build on 
> my build environment - just for show.
>
> AFAIK, GCC 9 is fully compatible with C11/C++17.
>
> 04.01.2025 23:29, Jonathan Cox via users пишет:
>> By the way, I invested quite a bit of time recently building new 
>> packages for Solaris 10 SPARC, including Python, SDL, Numpy, Geany 
>> and many others. I took detailed notes and had a fair amount of 
>> success, although I wasn't able to figure out how to build newer 
>> versions of GCC. This became a limiting factor because many open 
>> source projects, especially anything GNU, have moved to C++17 and 
>> even newer versions (for no apparent reason, as far as I can tell).
>>
>> I did inquire about releasing my builds in the OpenCSW repository, 
>> but I never got a response.
>>
>> I am interested in how to compile GCC 9 for Solaris 10, as well as 
>> generating these updated packages on OpenCSW.
>>
>> It's really a hobby, I'm not doing this because I'm constrained to 25 
>> year old hardware...
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>> *From:* users <users-bounces+joncox=alum.mit.edu at lists.opencsw.org> 
>> <mailto:users-bounces+joncox=alum.mit.edu at lists.opencsw.org> on 
>> behalf of Ben Walton via users <users at lists.opencsw.org> 
>> <mailto:users at lists.opencsw.org>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 4, 2025 9:33:43 AM
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>> <mailto:users at lists.opencsw.org>
>> *Cc:* Ben Walton <bwalton at opencsw.org> <mailto:bwalton at opencsw.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: Time for some updates
>>
>>
>> On Sat 4 Jan 2025, 14:58 Yuri via users, <users at lists.opencsw.org 
>> <mailto:users at lists.opencsw.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Gentlemen, don't you think it's time for some updates?
>>
>>     For example, Perl. It's too old, 14 years is a bit too much to
>>     run most of the CPAN modules. Or GCC. I'd like to see at least
>>     6.5 in 2024. Or openvpn. The current version is outdated.
>>
>>     Redis is generally archaic, given that 5.0.14 is built from
>>     sources on Solaris 10 without any problems.
>>
>>     I understand that the problem of maintainers has not gone away
>>     and in general - if you want something, build it yourself.
>>
>>     But let's at least refresh Perl and GCC a little, okay? They are
>>     hopelessly ancient. If I can build a compiler from sources
>>     myself, whichever I like, then I couldn't build Perl. Not with
>>     any attempt.
>>
>> I think you already understand the problem here. The people that were 
>> investing their time in this aren't doing that much anymore because 
>> they've moved on. It's been a long time since I logged into any 
>> Solaris machine at this point and it's unlikely I will in the future. 
>> If I do, it's very unlikely to be building software on it. I think 
>> many other folks are in a similar position because they are 
>> scratching different itches in different technical contexts. Not 
>> everyone has moved on, but those still here seemingly don't have a 
>> need to update these packages.
>>
>> If you need these, I suggest you roll up your sleeves. Dago can still 
>> get you access to the build farm where you'd have a pretty straight 
>> forward path to building the updated packages you want.
>>
>> I know this doesn't actually help you, but at least it confirms your 
>> suspicion.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Ben
>>
>>     Maybe there are newer versions posted somewhere and I just don't
>>     see them? For example, in unstable or testing?
>>
>>     WBR, Yuri
>>
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