[csw-maintainers] introducing csw-upload-pkg

Dagobert Michelsen dam at opencsw.org
Thu May 12 20:14:37 CEST 2011


Hi Phil,

Am 12.05.2011 um 20:01 schrieb Philip Brown:
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Dagobert Michelsen <dam at opencsw.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't understand all the fuzz about this. The previous workflow looked
>> like this:
>> 
>>  pkgsubmissions@ -> Release Manager -> current
>> 
>> The proposed new workflow looks like this:
>> 
>>  csw-upload-pkg -> unstable -> QA Team -> current
> 
> Eh? where did this "qa team" get mentioned? I see no mention of any
> such "QA team".
> What I DO see (reading Ben's original email in this thread), is:
> 
> - Automatic, immediate publishing to "unstable".
> - Automatic publishing to "current", after 2 weeks and no bugs filed.
> 
> There is then an unsubstantiated claim of,
> "Users are free to pull from unstable directly (just as they can in
> debian), but most will wait for current. "
> 
> "most will wait" is unsubstantiated. no-one knows for sure what our
> users will do.

I don't know what you want to say by that. Some users still subscribe to
stable, some use experimental, YMMV.

> Changing tracks a little, it seems that certain people in opencsw are
> attempting to pull a "sun".
> ie:
>  Get rid of all the old-school in-house "QA process", publish
> "directly", and let "the internet" magically file bugs and do all the
> QA work. and somehow hope that the result is good quality.

At the moment most users have subscribed to current as it is the only
usable catalog receiving updates. We have exactly 1 person looking
at the packages before going to current (=you). While this catches
bugs from time to time it also leads to completely broken catalogs
from time to time. Publishing packages to unstable first give more
people a chance to inspect and actually use packages before going
to current. Something like the curl desaster would have been cought.
Additionally, I see no reason why the same person doing QA now can't
file a bug instead of writing an email. Apart from hopefully many
more eyes.

To stick to you web analogies: you want the cathedral instead of the
bazaar.


Best regards

  -- Dago



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